Any 'survival' themed rimfire better be a wheel gun...

[Jayne]

Out screwing around outside today, and my normally reliable .22 semi turned into a single shot jam-o-matic. It was fine when it was warm from being in the house, but as soon as the rounds got cold the wax or whatever is on 22s started to gum up and it would not feed or extract reliably. Then when I got a little snow in a mag from dropping it... forget it.

Ive never carried a rimfire around in sub-optimal weather, but if 10 minutes outside does this I wouldn't want to rely on one that's been outside for hours/days in low temps or snow.

 

[Charlie]

Are you sure it was not the oil on the pistol? I have to run my guns dry during real cold weather.

 

[BurnedOutGeek]

S&W 617

you're welcome!

lol

 

[Geezer]

Don't get mad at your semi-auto, it's what they do.

 

[Lawless]

What happens sometimes is a tiny bit of moisture can freeze one up as well. Good lesson.

 

[Charlie]

If you take a cold gun indoors or put it inside your coat, condensation can occur that may freeze when the gun gets cold again.

 

[kcult]

S&W 617

you're welcome!

lol

I want one of those. The closest I have is a 48-3 with 8 3/8" barrel.

 

[JohnFreeman]

S&W Model 17 FTW!

 

[JimP42]

As someone else mentioned, at least as likely to be the lube. No lube or a dry lube is a good idea in subfreezing temps. Certainly no grease.
Easy to test whether it's lube on ammo - you must have some dry (unlubed) 22 like automatch or whatever.

 

[Tim]

S&W 617

you're welcome!

lol

I was "this close" to buying one today...$675 was a decent deal, but I walked away.

I had one of the newer model Ruger SP101 4" .22s and really like it as well.

 

[Errant_Venture]

I see a lot of classy revolvers in here. My own is a S&W Model 66. It was my Uncle's carry gun, and it was the only one he cared about that wasn't stolen by his son. He gave it to me the day before he died, so it's somewhat special to me. It's not a .22, but it's my go to wilderness carry, and you can be damned sure it's going with me if anything ever goes amuck!

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[WeepingAngel]

Ruger Sp101 or GP100 are both made in 22lr

 

[BurnedOutGeek]

I was "this close" to buying one today...$675 was a decent deal, but I walked away.

I had one of the newer model Ruger SP101 4" .22s and really like it as well.

On my 3rd one now. Gonna keep this one this time. Needs Springs though. Lol

Ain't getting rid of the 351 either.

 

[Errant_Venture]

I was "this close" to buying one today...$675 was a decent deal, but I walked away.

I had one of the newer model Ruger SP101 4" .22s and really like it as well.

On my 3rd one now. Gonna keep this one this time. Needs Springs though. Lol

Ain't getting rid of the 351 either.

How are the triggers on those? I've always been told that it takes a harder hammer strike for .22, but I haven't personally fired a lot of .22 revolvers.

 

[barnaby]

Agree.. revolver for pistol and lever for rifle...

22 ammo is too damn variable.

If it don't work revolvers and levers just move to the next.

 

[BurnedOutGeek]

I was "this close" to buying one today...$675 was a decent deal, but I walked away.

I had one of the newer model Ruger SP101 4" .22s and really like it as well.

On my 3rd one now. Gonna keep this one this time. Needs Springs though. Lol

Ain't getting rid of the 351 either.

Pretty dang good with the wolf spring kit in them. The stock isn't bad, but the wolf kit makes it a whole new ballgame altogether

 

[The Green Heron]

Wrong ammo, wrong lube in the gun. Needle oiler with MMO in every getitandgo cleaning kit I own.

Don't blame the gun, there is nothing wrong with a semi auto for freezing temps, but they do require different ammo and lube regimen. Frog lube? Throw that mess away.
Having bullet lube problems, put one drop of MMO on the first round in the mag.
MMO is Marvel Mystery Oil.

 

[Errant_Venture]

Wrong ammo, wrong lube in the gun. Needle oiler with MMO in every getitandgo cleaning kit I own.

Don't blame the gun, there is nothing wrong with a semi auto for freezing temps, but they do require different ammo and lube regimen. Frog lube? Throw that mess away.
Having bullet lube problems, put one drop of MMO on the first round in the mag.
MMO is Marvel Mystery Oil.

How does MMO compare to your "traditional oil" like Hoppe's? How is it different? I haven't heard of it before, so I'm kind of curious, if you've the inclination to educate me a tiny bit!

 

[Crazy Carl]

Don't overlook the Ruger Single Ten (or 6 or 9- pick yer flavor).

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[Errant_Venture]

Don't overlook the Ruger Single Ten (or 6 or 9- pick yer flavor).

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Doh! Great call-out! My wife has a single six, and it's just all around unstoppable reliability, with a bit of beauty dashed into it. The .22 mag cylinder is a hoot as well.

 

[mulletmaster]

As others said use light oil sparingly. I had reliable semi auto 9mm pistols that went through thousands of rounds give me issues after i moved to Michigan due to improper lubrication in the cold.

 

[The Green Heron]

I know this is blasphemy. I don't own any Hoppes #9. I own very few firearm dedicated products.

MMO is thin but has pretty high lubricity. It keeps carbon soft in engines AND firearms. I make my own Ed's Red and have used gallons of it over the years. I personally think there is nothing better than Ed's Red for cast bullet and rimfire cleaning. MMO is very similar makeup to Ed's Red.

Put several drops of MMO in the cam pin hole of your ARs, you will be shocked how easy you can clean a bolt treated this way. I lube my ars and nickle plated sissy pistol with Mobil 1 synthetic 0-20.
Cold weather rimfire shooting is unforgiving. The ammo you use at 70 degrees, may be very problematic at 20 degrees. There is a reason Lapua makes Polar Biathlon ammo. Auto Match is the least problematic hi-vel cold weather ammo I have ever used. Any of the eel snot lubed Lapua ammos are very dependable in cold weather. That line includes, Wolf, SK, and Lapua, all made in the same factory, and have that rediculous slick, thin lube. I suspect it is silicone based lube.
A fellow writer for IHMSA News, did a piece on a test he ran by removing lubes on ho hum bulk ammo, and replacing with a silicone based lube. The results were very interesting. I wish I still had the article but that has been quite a while ago.

PS:
MMO is very cheap compared to firearm dedicated products. I think we can assume the auto industry knows quite a bit about petroleum products.

 

[Don]

I know this is blasphemy. I don't own any Hoppes #9. I own very few firearm dedicated products.

MMO is thin but has pretty high lubricity. It keeps carbon soft in engines AND firearms. I make my own Ed's Red and have used gallons of it over the years. I personally think there is nothing better than Ed's Red for cast bullet and rimfire cleaning. MMO is very similar makeup to Ed's Red.

Put several drops of MMO in the cam pin hole of your ARs, you will be shocked how easy you can clean a bolt treated this way. I lube my ars and nickle plated sissy pistol with Mobil 1 synthetic 0-20.
Cold weather rimfire shooting is unforgiving. The ammo you use at 70 degrees, may be very problematic at 20 degrees. There is a reason Lapua makes Polar Biathlon ammo. Auto Match is the least problematic hi-vel cold weather ammo I have ever used. Any of the eel snot lubed Lapua ammos are very dependable in cold weather. That line includes, Wolf, SK, and Lapua, all made in the same factory, and have that rediculous slick, thin lube. I suspect it is silicone based lube.
A fellow writer for IHMSA News, did a piece on a test he ran by removing lubes on ho hum bulk ammo, and replacing with a silicone based lube. The results were very interesting. I wish I still had the article but that has been quite a while ago.

PS:
MMO is very cheap compared to firearm dedicated products. I think we can assume the auto industry knows quite a bit about petroleum products.

We used MMO in the air line lubricators in the trailer plant because it was the only oil that my father had found that wouldn't gum up the air wrenches. Good stuff!

 

[Friday]

Ruger Sp101 or GP100 are both made in 22lr

That new 22lr GP 100 is sweet.

 

[Friday]

Mt AR 7 has been 100% in crap weather, regardless of ammo.
Kinda surprising too, as the trigger group is a somewhat complex mechanism.

 

[Jayne]

Not pretty, but pretty cool looking. Works better with CCI std vel and less snow.

(Tactical Solutions upper with an element 2 on a Gen 4 G19 lower).

 

[The Green Heron]

Not pretty, but pretty cool looking. Works better with CCI std vel and less snow.

(Tactical Solutions upper with an element 2 on a Gen 4 G19 lower).

OK now things become glaringly clear. Get a dedicated 22 auto and things will be different. Every 22 conversion I have ever seen or owned, were problematic. The cold weather really brings out their inherent problems.

 

[NKD]

.22 rimfire is a challenge in the cold.

It's about the wax lube on the bullets, not the lube on the gun. Unless one is using an inappropriate lube for their rimfire.

Go to any rimfire match where it drops below 40 degrees and you will see a lot of guns choking. Most guns choking.

You have to find ammo that works for your gun, then you have to make sure it works in the cold. Or, you clean all the wax off each bullet.

 

[RedneckFur]

One thing that I still lack is a .22 revolver. Want to get one pretty bad, but I always find it hard to justify in the gun store when I can buy an autoloader for half the price.

 

[WeepingAngel]

Not pretty, but pretty cool looking. Works better with CCI std vel and less snow.

(Tactical Solutions upper with an element 2 on a Gen 4 G19 lower).

Disagree on the "not pretty". I'll be in my bunk.