Anyone Else See This Crap Regarding NCDMV and CDL Licenses?

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From https://www.ncdot.gov/dmv/license-id/driver-licenses/commercial/Pages/default.aspx


“Effective 2/7, anyone applying for a Class A or Class B CDL (Fire is exempt) must attend an Entry-Level Training Driving School per FMCSA. We reached out to one of the local driving schools that has received authorization from FMCSA as a vendor, and for a Class B CDL, it will cost $3500 per person for a 5 week course, M-F (7am-6pm) or a weekend course for 16 weeks. For a Class A CDL, it will cost $4500 for the same length of the course. There is an exam at the end of the course, as well as the regular DMV exams that were previously in place. “

Are you kidding me?!?! They now REQUIRE a drivers Ed that costs $3500 or $4500 and 5-weeks of 5 days per week to even sit for the CDL class A or B. Mind you, this is in addition to the exam, walk-around, and driving test you have had to take for decades.

They’ve lost their frickin minds! New employees at my shop have to either come with a class B or A (5% bump in pay if you bring an A) or get one within 6 months at our cost. Most come in without. How the hell am I supposed to work with this BS?!?!
 
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Creating more of a trucking issue, great 🤦‍♂️
 
Jerzsubbie said:
It’s a federal requirement. I read about it on Arfcom last month.

Considering the state of trucking and high demand for drivers, this is a terrible time to implement such a thing.
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Ah, the feds. I recognized their foul stench when I stepped aboard this thread.
 
Jerzsubbie said:
It’s a federal requirement. I read about it on Arfcom last month.

Considering the state of trucking and high demand for drivers, this is a terrible time to implement such a thing.
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It’s by design.
 
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Dale Gribble said:
It’s by design.
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Got to force everyone into the austerity of the great reset. For some reason we don't want to eat bugs and live in pods to preserve the earth for the billionaire oligarchs.
 
Seriously😑 CDL testing is already a whole other world compared to a class C...

Is it because 98% (made up percentage but it's a lot) of CDL sized vehicles involved in accidents are found to occur without fault of the operator??

At least we eliminated drivers Ed from the highschool curriculum...
 
The most stupid thing I've heard.

It is (or was) really easy to get the certs to train the drivers (ie. Private school). The training just a time suck for all involved
 
Chdamn said:
Exactly.

We have hired and trained several drivers over the years. This effectively ends OJT hiring for small companies.
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Don’t worry, the government will subsidize CDL school loans... they will make unneeded electives a requirement and make the cost 10x their quoted 4500. You’ll likely be able to major in commercial driving as well, at the 4 year school of your choice.

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I no am truly ignorant of how this is supposed to work. How much of that 5 weeks is spent doing stuff on the road?

Is there re-cert stuff you have to do once you have it?

That seems like a lot of time.
 
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DCGallim said:
Already having a terrible time finding drivers. This should really help me.
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If the city keeps on I may be begging.

I reckon work will drop the "CDL required within 2 years", or we'll hire people and pay them thru school never to see them again. Both are lose propositions for my shop that's already at 50%.

Most large fleets have required school for years due to insurance. I went, 80% backing, 10% pre-trip, 5% logging, 5% driving. Since I'd been a trailer mechanic I helped the slow kids back and pre trip and wound up doing laps around Ft Wayne and running errands with staff for a few days to get to min hours. They taught basically nothing actually needed on the road.
 
1) Make the available pool of drivers to fill the shortages even smaller, causing

2) More disruptions to an already injured supply chain, making the shortages we’ve experienced lately look like a church picnic. The shortages not only extend to Lowes, Publix, Harris Teeter or Piggly friggon Wiggly, but also to restaurants, including fast food joints, which is supper most days for many folks. I’m pretty sure in addition to food shortages, there’ll be shortages in medicine, as well…including pain meds and psychotropic drugs. Oh…and fuel shortages; folks can’t get to work, goods can’t get to where they need to be…a chain reaction that leads only to chaos…

3) Which begets violence….which leads to, “We’re the government…we gotta step in and do something to curb the violence and get folks what they need”…translation: “Limit the tools available for folks to wage violence and create even more dependency…a ‘reset’.”

See where I’m going with this? It’s why I stated earlier that it is by design.
 
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Trevillian said:
Is it because 98% (made up percentage but it's a lot) of CDL sized vehicles involved in accidents are found to occur without fault of the operator??
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I have a ham radio friend, who is now a local, as in home at least the next night, driver versus going from Greensboro to LA and back event week. on his way to LA, he went round a curve and saw a car stopped in his lane. He served and managed to avoid a collision. Turned out the guy had just received medical treatment and passed out while driving. The after the action report showed the truck stability sensors exceeded the limits and it should have turned over but didn’t and my friend kept it stable. Still went on his record though. Then when he slipped on ice, beyond his control, in the yard, that was two incidents and he was suspended. He filed a grievance and got it rescinded, but Jesus, who needs that.
 
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hp468 said:
Your complaining about the cost to get a CDL license and you expect us to pay for a rotary licenses?!?!?!?!

Come on maaaaaaaan!
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Nah…

Day’s a-coming where licenses, permits, permission slips and all that other hogwash is going right out the window.
 
noway2 said:
I have a ham radio friend, who is now a local, as in home at least the next night, driver versus going from Greensboro to LA and back event week. on his way to LA, he went round a curve and saw a car stopped in his lane. He served and managed to avoid a collision. Turned out the guy had just received medical treatment and passed out while driving. The after the action report showed the truck stability sensors exceeded the limits and it should have turned over but didn’t and my friend kept it stable. Still went on his record though. Then when he slipped on ice, beyond his control, in the yard, that was two incidents and he was suspended. He filed a grievance and got it rescinded, but Jesus, who needs that.
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That's union's for you
 
LeeMajors said:
That's union's for you
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I know, unions. Then I think about where several members of my family worked in a MRDD facility in OH. Anytime there was an incident or a complaint, it became a legal matter and the union, which was mandatory, paid for legal counsel. One time my mother had a client that, I forget exactly, but acted out and feigned a fall. My mother tried to catch them, out of reflex, and wound up with an injured back as a result. It came down to a disciplinary case where they tired going after my mother. It’s been so long that I don’t recall the details, but the company offered X disciplinary action as a settlement and the lawyer said No, that my mother did nothing wrong and said lets take it to court. They relented, I’m sure at a retaliatory cost.

Union, good or bad? Cause of or response to toxic work environment?
 
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Dale Gribble said:
Nah…

Day’s a-coming where licenses, permits, permission slips and all that other hogwash is going right out the window.
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Lift vs drag and rotation... flair and pull collective before right before the ground... throttles, bottles, and batteries... I got this... There's bound to be a uh60 around here somewhere, you down?

why not?!?!? 🤣🤣🤣
 
hp468 said:
Lift vs drag and rotation... flair and pull collective before right before the ground... throttles, bottles, and batteries... I got this... There's bound to be a uh60 around here somewhere, you down?

why not?!?!? 🤣🤣🤣
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Absolutely…

You keep us airborne; I’ll be in the back, giving the communist swine a push.👍

Can we retrofit the Hawk with a wood chipper? Kill two birds with one stone, so to speak?

Commies out the port, pedo pieces out the starboard?

Work smarter, not harder.👍😊
 
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Less truckers= less honkers during the next “trucker protest convoy”.
 
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Dale Gribble said:
Absolutely…

You keep us airborne; I’ll be in the back, giving the communist swine a push.👍

Can we retrofit the Hawk with a wood chipper? Kill two birds with one stone, so to speak?

Commies out the port, pedo pieces out the starboard?

Work smarter, not harder.👍😊
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Need a door gunner?
 
Dale Gribble said:
Absolutely…

You keep us airborne; I’ll be in the back, giving the communist swine a push.👍

Can we retrofit the Hawk with a wood chipper? Kill two birds with one stone, so to speak?

Commies out the port, pedo pieces out the starboard?

Work smarter, not harder.👍😊
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Got room for one more? This sounds like a laugh.
 
Standard Operating Procedure.
1 - Create Problem.
2 - Create a government agency to address the problem.
3 - Raise taxes to fund said government agency.
4 - When problem arises from the government agency, create a new government agency to address the new problem.
5 - Raise taxes again to fund the new government agency.
6 - Repeat steps 4 & 5 for ever and ever and ever....
 
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