Been rolling around the idea of taking a shooting course. One friend recommended Frank Proctor. Has anyone taken one of his classes and can provide some feedback?
Thanks!
Thanks!
Anyone taken a Frank Proctor class?
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I have not taken a class with Proctor, but here is a very thorough AAR from someone with a pretty broad training background. https://civiliangunfighter.wordpres...amentals-of-fast-salem-ct-january-25-26-2020/
Proctor is obviously a respected and talented trainer and would be a solid choice, but I think the more important questions here aren't about him, they're about you. Where are you, objectively, as a shooter, and what do you need to work on?
IMHO, if you don't have any formal training and don't really have answers offhand to questions like that, then investing in a Frank Proctor class right now isn't the right move. Find a good local instructor and take a class or get some private lessons. VOD shouldn't be very far away from you: https://vodtactraining.com/ Once you've had the chance to work on the fundamentals of defensive shooting with a solid instructor, you can look to take a class with a national level traveling trainer like Proctor later.
Proctor is obviously a respected and talented trainer and would be a solid choice, but I think the more important questions here aren't about him, they're about you. Where are you, objectively, as a shooter, and what do you need to work on?
IMHO, if you don't have any formal training and don't really have answers offhand to questions like that, then investing in a Frank Proctor class right now isn't the right move. Find a good local instructor and take a class or get some private lessons. VOD shouldn't be very far away from you: https://vodtactraining.com/ Once you've had the chance to work on the fundamentals of defensive shooting with a solid instructor, you can look to take a class with a national level traveling trainer like Proctor later.
Chuckman
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I have a friend who has had a couple of his classes because he is relatively local to him, and loved the classes.
Locally there are others: @Modern Tactical Shooting , Shrek McPhee with SOB Tactical, Larry Vickers (I think he still does local classes)....
Locally there are others: @Modern Tactical Shooting , Shrek McPhee with SOB Tactical, Larry Vickers (I think he still does local classes)....
jjwestbrook
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While I haven't taken a class , I have squadded with him at a 3 gun match. He was a pretty cool guy and can definitely shoot. I have never heard anyone say anything negative about his classes
OP
I am a member at VOD and shoot there quite regularly. I did read through some of the link you posted. Kind of disappointing that the writer said they only shot 350 rounds over 2 days, while the class description read 1500 rounds.
Thank you all for the input.
jjwestbrook
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While I have no knowledge of that , makes me wonder if it was due to the ammo shortage that he trimmed down the round count . Just a thought
OP
Also seems they were in a smaller, indoor range. I guess if everyone can’t shoot at the same time you would probably shoot a lot less.
Chuckman
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Most instructors are going to lower-round count classes these days. There are so many more teaching methodologies than there used to be; the days of shooting hundreds/thousands of rounds are going away.
The author's problem wasn't that they only shot 300-something rounds. It was that the class description said 1500 rounds. If you're driving to a class, not a huge deal, apart from the extra case of ammo you bought. For me, that's a plus, not a minus. But a lot of people fly to classes and have to ship ammo there. What do I do with that extra case of ammo if my flight home on Monday morning is at 7am and I have no possibility of getting to a shipper before I leave? Hope that one of my fellow students wants to buy a case of ammo, I guess. I get round counts being somewhat off, but a trainer should take care to give a relatively accurate estimate of rounds required, IMHO.
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Chuckman
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Yeah, totally agree. 1,500 rounds vs 300 rounds is a HUGE difference in monetary investment, and then getting the ammo there if you are not carrying it yourself.