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Just crazy.


I recall another article a few years ago, similar situation but the kid was inside the fenced property of his home, idiot officer arrested his mother and made things worse. Chief fired the officer and apologized to the family.
 
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"child in need of supervision". A lot of references to the mother and the attorney but no mention of the father.

Probably does need some supervision. But the idiot officer chose to be a dick rather than a help.

I hope the family uses their new found wealth for good.

And 5 officers involved? Did he need backup arresting a 10 y/o? SWAT team?

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As for the actual reason for the arrest, I have to deal with people pissing in the parking lot here all the time. If you don't want to be arrested, don't piss on someone else's property. The urgency of your need to piss has no bearing on legality.
 
We was having a birthday party few years ago for one of my little nephews at a public park. Once the festivities was dying down we let all the kids go to playground. Where one of my little nephews 5 at the time pulled out and started takin a pee right in front of everybody at the playground. My little sister was so embarrassed and was fussing at her son my nephew. I told her it's what boys do specially young boys to leave him alone and quit fussing.
 
I'd like to know a bit more about the circumstances.

I've pee'd all over the place as a child. Who's got time to run all the way back to the house when you're outside playing?

The article, predictably, is long on triggering title and short on descriptive details. The biggest detail was "...urinating in a parking lot hear an attorney's office in the small town of Senatobia...". What...behind a bush? Near some trees? On someone's vehicle? Was it during an attempt at being discrete or was he deliberately in full view of pedestrian traffic? Was he with a "gang of kids" doing this, along with some other disruption?

How 'bout this...was it in the parking lot of Carlos Moore, the family's attorney? THAT would have been hilarious!

Lots of stupid people like to say "you can't judge a book by its cover", but I looked up pictures of this kid. I'm not going to make an outright claim that you can always tell a bad person by their looks, but in many cases there ARE actual indications. It's in the posture, the way they look at others, the lines around their eyes and mouth, and more. This kid looks like...a kid. And he got caught doing something harmless that kids sometimes do.

Cops obviously cannot go about charging everybody with every crime in the books, because even though they CAN, they simply don't have the time to do that. They have the power to pick and choose, they have the power to decide if they're going to issue a verbal or written warning or a citation or make an arrest. It's called "police discretion".

Here's how it probably should have gone:

LEO: Hey, kid! You know public urination is against the law? It's also kind of rude to do that on someone else's property. How about you do that at home? Or maybe use a restroom at a fast food joint or something? In fact, there's a McDonalds just around the corner. How about I buy you a Coke and some fries and you use the restroom there?

He's a KID...at the age of 10, he's still very impressionable and something like that would leave a MUCH better lasting impression on his life.
 
I had a crew cut down some trees earlier this year and got one of them pissing in the backyard on my camera system.

I get it, and honestly would rather he do that than come in, but he pissed right on my heat pump! šŸ˜†

The funniest part was him looking around scoping the place out but not seeing the big camera 4 feet above his head.
 
On a lighter note...

Reading through the Wikipedia page on Senatobia, I found this funny little tidbit under "notable people":

James "Kamala" Harris (1950 - 2020), wrestler. No apparent relationship to Kamala Harris, but hilarious anyway!

An American professional wrestler, "The Ugandan Giant".

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When I lived up in LI NY, was at the supermarket and this young boy, maybe three years old, was outside waiting for his mother, it was raining lightly, he could not hold it in any longer, he drops his pants and takes a huge leak, he was standing in a puddle and it looked funny, folks thought it was cute and went about their business, problem was he did not pull his pants back up, mom comes out and spanked him in front of everyone. A grandmom told her she was wrong for leaving him outside the store and it was not his fault.
 
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I hate to say this but the Huffpo article seemed like the best one. Mom was at a meeting for work. Guessing she was called in but not on shift for it. Kid had to go. Older sister said they could not find a bathroom.

First cop had a brain. Apparently the next 4 did not have enough to even share one.

I've dealt with kids that had real issues. What we DO NOT NEED is a system that helps create issues where none exist. According so one of the articles, it's not illegal but he was arrested. No law broken but he's on "supervision" by the court. WTF? On what basis? The feeling that this is extra-legal is likely to cause some serious issues for them.
 
Harsh, yes.
But I'll play devil's advocate here. Was it really that harsh of a sentence? Is the kid REALLY in trouble? Hes on probation, sounds wild for a ten year old, but it's not like he's out doing community service or serving time in the clink

And then there's this - we see, time and time again, where criminals are getting off with nothing, and people cry about how we need to harden up our legal system - I agree, by the way
Why not start here?
It sounds bad, but teach consequences young and then, maybe, they dont grow up to be crapheads.

But still wild to give a ten year old probation.
 
We was having a birthday party few years ago for one of my little nephews at a public park. Once the festivities was dying down we let all the kids go to playground. Where one of my little nephews 5 at the time pulled out and started takin a pee right in front of everybody at the playground. My little sister was so embarrassed and was fussing at her son my nephew. I told her it's what boys do specially young boys to leave him alone and quit fussing.
A few years ago my 4-5ish year old nephew had trouble with aim in the bathroom. His mother was complaining about it and it came up that he didn't ever use the ONE gift a man has because he hasn't been taught by his useless father.....

Didn't know the privilege of boys going outside and using the "facili-trees"šŸ˜±šŸ˜•

In steps uncle TrevillianšŸ˜ŽšŸ¤£ when they were up for a week. A little lesson about his male "privilege" and the great outdoor pee for all. He learned the lesson well.

Apparently missed the lesson on when, where and how to use that giftšŸ¤£. They live in a subdivision and his mom discovered little dude was walking out the front door, dropping pants to ankles and letting it rip, right in the front yard, while waving at the neighborsšŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£. They thought it was hilarious, btw.

So after another thorough lesson about discretion. Problem solvedšŸ¤£



Unless this kid was taking a defiant power piss on the cops shoes they need a good smack in the mouth for letting this go beyond a jovial reprimand or maybe a mild talking tošŸ˜‘
 
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Harsh, yes.
But I'll play devil's advocate here. Was it really that harsh of a sentence? Is the kid REALLY in trouble? Hes on probation, sounds wild for a ten year old, but it's not like he's out doing community service or serving time in the clink

And then there's this - we see, time and time again, where criminals are getting off with nothing, and people cry about how we need to harden up our legal system - I agree, by the way
Why not start here?
It sounds bad, but teach consequences young and then, maybe, they dont grow up to be crapheads.

But still wild to give a ten year old probation.

The point isn't "was it that harsh", but "was it even necessary in the first place?"

But let's go with "was it really that harsh".

Shovel yourself back to 4th or 5th grade and imagine yourself in a police encounter with not one, not two, but FIVE officers (from.multiple police cars) who end up arresting you, putting you in a police car, and taking you to jail and locking you up in a cell.

I don't know about you, but mt 10 year old self would have been mortified, scared $#!tless, and in tears the whole time. Probably would have p!$$ed my pants in terror, too, ironically.

And THEN to have to go in front of a judge like some criminal afterwards?

What get got as a 10 year old wasn't a light smack on the wrist. He got a stinking $#!t sandwich of a scar that's going to be with him the rest of his life OVER TAKING A LEAK OUTSIDE.

I can remember much less traumatic events with perfect clarity today, rapidly coming up on 60 years of age. I rather think he's going to remember this disgusting, traumatic $#!+stain of an event much less fondly than I do with my own.

The judge should have openly said "Young man, this should never have come to me like this. Case dismissed."
 
My dad scared the hell out of me as a kid, I knew there would be punishments, he'd light my butt up
I learned not to do that crap again.
Just saying.
 
Mr Moore said the family intended to take the case to ā€œthe highest heightsā€ of the criminal justice system and would file in federal court, adding: ā€œthey are going to pay this family for what they have endured.ā€
They must have more money than sense, because federal court isnā€™t cheap and neither are the lawyers that can represent you there.
 
Harsh, yes.
But I'll play devil's advocate here. Was it really that harsh of a sentence? Is the kid REALLY in trouble? Hes on probation, sounds wild for a ten year old, but it's not like he's out doing community service or serving time in the clink

And then there's this - we see, time and time again, where criminals are getting off with nothing, and people cry about how we need to harden up our legal system - I agree, by the way
Why not start here?
It sounds bad, but teach consequences young and then, maybe, they dont grow up to be crapheads.

But still wild to give a ten year old probation.


This was 3 articles deep but worth the digging. This is what convinced me.


"The prosecutor suggested increasing the charges if all parties didnā€™t agree to the probation terms, according to Carlos Moore, an attorney representing the child."


"The chief of the Senatobia Police Department released a statementabout the incident on Aug. 21, saying the officerā€™s actions ā€œviolated our written policy and went against our prior training on how to deal with these situations.ā€

One of the officers involved in the arrest was fired and others were disciplined, the statement said.

ā€œAs a result of the investigation, one of the officers involved is no longer employed, and the others will be disciplined,ā€ the statement says. ā€œWe will also have mandatory juvenile training department-wide, just as we do every year.ā€"


 
Definitely in the top 5 reasons why being a dude is awesome.
the other day my wife and i were shopping and had to make a bathroom stop in the stores
she was flustered by all the bags, fannie pack, extra layers, etc she had to deal with. i said "just give them to me next time"
she said "but you had to go too..." and i looked at her and said "i need one finger and a thumb free to work my zipper and take care of everything else."
she was astounded and didn't really believe it's that easy. I reached down and unzipped/zippedup while we were walking and said "that's the hardest part"
so next stop... i had to make good on my statements. and still beat her out of the bathroom.
 
I'll be by to piss on your porch shortly then lol
I generally piss off the porch rather than on it.

We would stop the car and open both front and back doors. Standing between the doors shielded you from view. I took a leak and barfed on about every curve in the Smoky Mountains when I was a child.
 
As for the actual reason for the arrest, I have to deal with people pissing in the parking lot here all the time. If you don't want to be arrested, don't piss on someone else's property. The urgency of your need to piss has no bearing on legality.
Yeah I was walking from PetSmart to TJ maxx and some moron was about half way down the side of the building pissing. It wasn't even dark and TJ maxx has a restroom. But not this jackass stops his mini van with his wife and kids and runs to the side of the store.
 
OK, so, they lost me when they started going on about racism. I get it, he's a little kid and he had to go. I also get that he needs to learn better than to pull out his wanker and pee where everyone is watching, but, damn, calling the cops on a 10 year old kid? What kind of jack wad does that?
 
The urgency of your need to piss has no bearing on legality.
Does the age of the bladder have any bearing on the application of the law?

What if a kid pissed in his pants in your parking lot? Would that be actionable?

Jus' askin'...
 
I generally piss off the porch rather than on it.

We would stop the car and open both front and back doors. Standing between the doors shielded you from view. I took a leak and barfed on about every curve in the Smoky Mountains when I was a child.
Pop the hood and pee on the ground beneath the radiator. People are used to seeing radiators leaking.
 
Pop the hood and pee on the ground beneath the radiator. People are used to seeing radiators leaking.
you must drive a lot of fords...

Yeah I was walking from PetSmart to TJ maxx and some moron was about half way down the side of the building pissing. It wasn't even dark and TJ maxx has a restroom. But not this jackass stops his mini van with his wife and kids and runs to the side of the store.
one time i had to pee real bad and stopped at a gas station
"no bathroom!"
"i'll buy something"
"NO BATHROOM!"
"look, i just need to pee and it's going to happen - either in the bathroom or on the side of your building..."
"GET OUT"
"ooo-kay"
stood with a dumpster in between me and the cameras, but i did pee with a great big smile
 
Weā€™re at the end stages of a remodel. Weā€™re on our 3rd dumpster at the house. I go out to put the chickens to bed. I routinely go between the dumpster, the house, etc, where nobody can see and ā€œmark my territoryā€ so to speak. Something primal and satisfying about the practice.
 
OK, so, they lost me when they started going on about racism. I get it, he's a little kid and he had to go. I also get that he needs to learn better than to pull out his wanker and pee where everyone is watching, but, damn, calling the cops on a 10 year old kid? What kind of jack wad does that?

Police in Senatobia, Mississippi, arrested a third grader who urinated outside his motherā€™s car in August. The childā€™s mother, Latonya Eason, was in a meeting in a nearby building when an officer came inside and told her that heā€™d seen her son relieving himself. Eason told HuffPost she then went outside to ask her son why heā€™d done that, and his sister replied that a bathroom hadnā€™t been available.


More officers arrived at the scene moments later, Eason said. The officer who witnessed the child urinating initially did not want to arrest him, according to Eason, but a lieutenant advised him to. Police took the child to a cell inside of a precinct, and Eason said they questioned him without her present.
 
I think Quantavious is a function of Microsoft Excel




The kid is 10, cop involvement is excessive
BUT I do see a need to get people in check. We've hit a point in society, or maybe it's always been this way, that people just do whatever they want to do without consequence.
Other day Im on 109 (Friday) and a car was going the wrong way down the street so they could more easily get to the sheetz, caused me to go hard on the brakes as there were curbs and medians on the sides
-The guy in HP who has gotten arrested MANY times for exposing himself. Likely mental illness, but still. He got arrested two days in a row, if I remember right
-18 year old in Winston recently got arrested, let out on bond, then murdered two that night

So while Im for punishing breaking law, teach someone while theyre young
This kid is YOUNG
Young bladders are different
And, yes, there's something very liberating about peeing outside. I do it at my house multiple times a week, typically on Saturday mornings when walking the dog
 
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