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Starting this thread to hear your ideas and thoughts about a project or design of awesomeness that will never see the light of day.


Mine-
Thompson Submachine gun in 9mm.
Just for enhanced suppression.

The rugged design and reliability.
It would be the Bee’s Knees.
Why apiary orthotics are a unit of measurement also remains a mystery.
 
Triple barrel 410 pump that feeds 3 barrels from 3 mag tubes to allow different combinations of shells for different purposes.

Three shot 20g snubnose revolver

Propane/butane powered single shot firearm (electrical or piezo igniter so has to be single shot to avoid atf nonsense) built sturdy enough and with interchangeable barrels to shoot regular reloading projectiles of various calibres as well as a spigot barrel for arrows and darts. Sort of like a pcp airgun/airbow with actual explosions, including the ability to change amount/mix of gas/air in the chamber. Make it compatible with standard camping stove screw fixtures for easy refill. You'd have to use lighter projectiles, but I think it would be a viable firearm.
 
Spartan said:
Starting this thread to hear your ideas and thoughts about a project or design of awesomeness that will never see the light of day.


Mine-
Thompson Submachine gun in 9mm.
Just for enhanced suppression.

The rugged design and reliability.
It would be the Bee’s Knees.
Why apiary orthotics are a unit of measurement also remains a mystery.
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They did experimental guns in a several different calibers.


Model 1919[edit]​

Starting with the Serial no. 11, the Model 1919 takes the final appearance of the later Thompsons with the rear sights and butt stock. The Model 1919 was limited to about 40 units; the first built did not use the drums, as it was too difficult to fire. Many variations have been noted within this model. The weapons had very high cyclic rates up to 1,500 rpm.[27] This was the weapon Brigadier General Thompson demonstrated at Camp Perry in 1920. A number of Model 1919s were made without butt stocks, rear and front sights, but the final version closely resembled the later Model 1921. This model was designed to "sweep" trenches with bullets. The New York City Police Department was the largest purchaser of the M1919. Some experimental calibers aside from the standard .45 ACP (11.4x23mm) were the .22LR, .32 ACP, .38 ACP, and 9mm.[36]
 
A durable prism optic with good eye relief, clear glass, and basic circle-dot reticle with shake-awake

An IR illuminator/laser/white light combo in the $500-$700 price point that doesn't suck

A dedicated aluminum AR bullpup lower with forward mounted mag/bolt release

A P90 clone that shoots 9mm
 
Supermatch said:
A durable prism optic with good eye relief, clear glass, and basic circle-dot reticle with shake-awake
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This too. I still mourn the loss of the Bushnell Lil' Peepee. If it had the clarity and eye relief of the PA prisms it would have been perfect.
 
Mr. Bggs said:
A glock shotgun... seems like a no brainer
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Like the Glock pistol calibre carbine that makes stupid amounts of sense and we will never see because if Glock have to come up with something new their designers will cry.
 
Pretty sure the .45 Tommy gun will be quieter subsonic vs a 9mm - hard to keep 9mm under 1200 fps in a carbine bbl except for 147s. Sound is pressure waves and .45 is lower:

In general, the 45 ACP is a low-pressure round with SAAMI specs citing a maximum pressure of 19,900 psi (considerably less than 35,000 psi for 9mm). It is naturally subsonic, which makes it ideal for use with a suppressor/silencer or submachineguns.

‘The standard-issue, military . 45 ACP cartridge contains a 230-grain bullet that travels at approximately 830 feet per second (253 m/s)when fired from the government-issue M1911A1 pistol, and approximately 950 feet per second (290 m/s) fired from the Thompson M1A1 submachine gun.’
 
Exspiravit said:
A light and compact bolt action in something like 357 with proper rifle sights.
Think a Mauser military rifle but in a smaller cartridge.
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Ruger makes exactly that in the 77/357. I've gotten to handle and shoot one. It's incredible.

But good luck finding one and if you do it will be pricey😑

I've emailed Ruger several times over the years begging for them to chamber the American rifle in pistol calibers. Talk about a gold mine for them.

9mm? I'll take one. .38/.357? Sold. 45 acp? For sure. 45 colt, 44 mag, 10mm? Deal!

A .357 bolt action with a threaded barrel around $500 hopefully less, haunts my dreams.
 
Frack N Cylons said:
Ruger PCC but make it bolt action in 9mm and 45. Thread it and keep it under $600. The 9mm can take double stack Glock mags down to G26 height for compactness. The 45 can take Glock 30 mags.
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That would be a fantastic suppressor host.
 
Jmoser said:
Pretty sure the .45 Tommy gun will be quieter subsonic vs a 9mm - hard to keep 9mm under 1200 fps in a carbine bbl except for 147s. Sound is pressure waves and .45 is lower:

In general, the 45 ACP is a low-pressure round with SAAMI specs citing a maximum pressure of 19,900 psi (considerably less than 35,000 psi for 9mm). It is naturally subsonic, which makes it ideal for use with a suppressor/silencer or submachineguns.

‘The standard-issue, military . 45 ACP cartridge contains a 230-grain bullet that travels at approximately 830 feet per second (253 m/s)when fired from the government-issue M1911A1 pistol, and approximately 950 feet per second (290 m/s) fired from the Thompson M1A1 submachine gun.’
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Nope!
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Jmoser said:
Pretty sure the .45 Tommy gun will be quieter subsonic vs a 9mm - hard to keep 9mm under 1200 fps in a carbine bbl except for 147s. Sound is pressure waves and .45 is lower:

In general, the 45 ACP is a low-pressure round with SAAMI specs citing a maximum pressure of 19,900 psi (considerably less than 35,000 psi for 9mm). It is naturally subsonic, which makes it ideal for use with a suppressor/silencer or submachineguns.

‘The standard-issue, military . 45 ACP cartridge contains a 230-grain bullet that travels at approximately 830 feet per second (253 m/s)when fired from the government-issue M1911A1 pistol, and approximately 950 feet per second (290 m/s) fired from the Thompson M1A1 submachine gun.’
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9mm is way better for suppression.
147’s are standard and relatively easy to find (as opposed to 20 years ago)

45ACP while very easy to find subsonic, will ALWAYS have a 50 caliber hole going through the suppressor which invariably leads to inefficiency.

I just completed my master’s thesis on this. I am a suppressor nerd.

I just love the rugged reliability of the Tommy Gun (think AK rugged/reliable without the gender confusion) and would love a suppressed 9mm version
 
Spartan said:
9mm is way better for suppression.
147’s are standard and relatively easy to find (as opposed to 20 years ago)

45ACP while very easy to find subsonic, will ALWAYS have a 50 caliber hole going through the suppressor which invariably leads to inefficiency.

I just completed my master’s thesis on this. I am a suppressor nerd.
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Interesting- would have thought 1/2 the pressure would dominate the hole size. Didn’t look at area of the bore tho . . .
 
To see the Olympics expand shooting sports to include new events. Like a decathlon of shooting. The 6 existing events, add in a muzzleloader event, a lever action event, a distance event, and a 3 gun (rifle, shotgun, pistol event).

To see that occur at the Olympics would help bring attention to shooting sports and it would be impressive to see the competitors take on all those disciplines.
 
Jmoser said:
Interesting- would have thought 1/2 the pressure would dominate the hole size. Didn’t look at area of the bore tho . . .
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Yeah, it was so disappointing the first time I acquired a 45ACP suppressor.

The good news is that the suppressor game has jumped way ahead-
The technology developed over the last two decades has done more than the previous 100 years.
 
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