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anyone got one? Good? Bad? Ugly ? Pros cons? I am looking at possibly adding one to my AR just because I can.
 
Is would like to have one just because I can own one but is there any real world advantage over a fast trigger like the Geissele 3 gun triggers. Just trying to justify the extra $100 for the Franklin Binary.
 
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nchunt101 said:
Is would like to have one just becasue I can but is there any real world advantage over a fast trigger like the Geissele 3 gun triggers. Just trying to justify the extra $100 for the Franklin Binary.
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Unless you want to dump mags a little faster (not twice as fast as a Geissele Super 3Gun or similar though), or you are in a competition where you shoot mostly double taps, I can't think of one.

It is definitely the sort of thing that either:
A) you pull out to show your friends occasionally or
B) you train with a lot so that you can use it without consciously thinking about it

I suspect that used casually a binary trigger is one of the most dangerous things you can do. It needs different trigger manipulation, safety manipulation, and trigger discipline habits to be safe (or to be used for mag dumps only).

I think it would be a sort of cool toy, and I considered getting one when our rimfire matches used to have lots of double taps, but the cost and retraining I realized I would need to do convinced me otherwise.
 
JimP42 said:
Unless you want to dump mags a little faster (not twice as fast as a Geissele Super 3Gun or similar though), or you are in a competition where you shoot mostly double taps, I can't think of one.

It is definitely the sort of thing that either:
A) you pull out to show your friends occasionally or
B) you train with a lot so that you can use it without consciously thinking about it

I suspect that used casually a binary trigger is one of the most dangerous things you can do. It needs different trigger manipulation, safety manipulation, and trigger discipline habits to be safe (or to be used for mag dumps only).

I think it would be a sort of cool toy, and I considered getting one when our rimfire matches used to have lots of double taps, but the cost and retraining I realized I would need to do convinced me otherwise.
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This is sort of what I was thinking but dammit it looks fun.
 
Bunsen said:
may it burn with the intensity of 1000 Sun's :cool:

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the appropriate response would have been
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:p
 
Isn't shouldering a brace on a pistol a felony? I certainly wouldn't do it on a YouTube video. Maybe he has SBR'ed that one.
 
Zedhound said:
ATF recently reversed that order
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At first they said the braces were ok.
Then they said they weren't.
Then they said they were but you couldn't shoulder them (because that would be redesigning the weapon - a felony!)

Did they change their story again?
 
JimP42 said:
At first they said the braces were ok.
Then they said they weren't.
Then they said they were but you couldn't shoulder them (because that would be redesigning the weapon - a felony!)

Did they change their story again?
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http://www.guns.com/2017/04/25/atf-reverses-decision-on-ar-arm-brace/

from 4/25/17
But “incidental, sporadic, or situational” use of a firearm equipped with an arm brace “in its original approved configuration” at or near the shoulder would not constitute a redesign nor make it an NFA item, ATF says.
 
JimP42 said:
Excellent. I only use my AR pistol sporadically so I am covered. [emoji3]

Seriously, I still wouldn't post video of it.
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And don't ask the ATF for clarification....

I have the same brace on the way for my 300blk pistol. I don't want to SBR it so I don't have to file papers to drive across lines, same as my CZ with the Tailhook
 
JimP42 said:
Excellent. I only use my AR pistol sporadically so I am covered. [emoji3]

Seriously, I still wouldn't post video of it.
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Exactly!

And I only use the brace "situationally" when I want to fire it as a rifle-ish weapon.
 
They always seemed as much a novelty as a bump fire stock to me.
But then, I get bored with full auto pretty quickly.
I'd rather have a hiperfire or trigger tech or ar gold.
 
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JohnFreeman said:
Exactly!

And I only use the brace "situationally" when I want to fire it as a rifle-ish weapon.
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[emoji3]

I just got one from PSA under 470 complete with brace. Will probably add a 1x Spitfire I already have since it works great unilluminated. Since it's a pistol it can be concealed in the car or truck. Good backup for 9mm EMP that I carry.

If I have to fire that it will definitely be a situation!
 
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