BMW heats your seats for $18/month.

Jerzsubbie said:
You were very careful to take my comment out of context šŸ˜‚. To clarify, in case the point was missed, itā€™s a new frontier when it comes to Magnuson-Moss Act warranty protection.
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Ah, sorry I didn't mean to!!

Anyway, you could always reflash the computer(s) to factory defaults and who's to know?
 
Anyone still buying BMW after they stopped providing oil dipsticks deserves what they get, I reckon.
 
My car actually has a digital meter. I have to dig through a service parameters screen to find it. They buried it on purpose, don't want people servicing the car at home.
 
There are too many reasons already for me not to buy a BMW. Yes they are great vehicles but after owning a Z4 I will never have another BMW. Itā€™s like there is a never ending cost on there products. No way to check oil, no oil filters to change (do not trust that at all), shields under engine so you canā€™t change oil, this list goes on. Heated seat subscription? Laughable.
 
Our son's 2003 330Ci is fine, and so is the heated seats. He is probably going to turbo that M54 under the hood after maintainance is done.
I would probably draw the line at the '11-'12 335i in my list of BMW's I'd actually want to own long-term. Absolutely nothing after 2015, ever.
 
Hypothetical solutionā€¦

What if you remove the OEM seat heating pads, and install aftermarket heating pads wired to a standalone switch?

What if you simply wire the OEM heating pads into a standalone switch?

Does this violate whatever purchase agreement they have you sign? Are you allowed to sell the OEM heating pads, or do you not actually own them? Is it the use of the OEM heating pads, the use of the OEM switch/controller, or the general use of any method of heating the seats that violates the BMW purchase agreement/warranty?

As always, there are many possible work arounds.
 
Jerzsubbie said:
Hypothetical solutionā€¦

What if you remove the OEM seat heating pads, and install aftermarket heating pads wired to a standalone switch?

What if you simply wire the OEM heating pads into a standalone switch?

Does this violate whatever purchase agreement they have you sign? Are you allowed to sell the OEM heating pads, or do you not actually own them? Is it the use of the OEM heating pads, the use of the OEM switch/controller, or the general use of any method of heating the seats that violates the BMW purchase agreement/warranty?

As always, there are many possible work arounds.
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i suppose that depends on the firmware. just because you haven't paid to use them doesn't mean the car isn't monitoring the seats and will throw a fit if the system gets manipulated.
 
Dale Gribble said:
Serious questionā€¦.

For vehicles with collision avoidance, auto-braking, lane drift assist and other automatic controls, what happens when you have to drive offensively?

Say you have to ram something, trade paint, force a vehicle off the road or do a PIT? Will the vehicle take over and prevent you from doing so?
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I had a chance to test that. The instructions were clear, ā€œFeet off the pedals and hands off the wheel, otherwise the computer will think youā€™re able to avoid the collision and will not intercedeā€œ. Hereā€™s somebodyā€™s blog about the experience.

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A sheep at the wheel: what I learned at the Ford ST SUV Experience

My new Explorer ST goes like a scalded dog. Fordā€™s Performance Driving School taught me how to avoid getting bitten.
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Drill number 2 required even more counterintuitive confidence in the same onboard technology. This time, weā€™d drive 200 feet between another straight lane of safety cones, hit 20mph, and roughly 20 feet before what seemed be an imminent collision with an inflatable wall painted to resemble the rear of a car, plant both feet on the floor and ā€œlet the emergency braking system take it from there.ā€

In case you didnā€™t fully grasp those instructions, let me recap for you: Drive an Explorer into a wall and assume neither you nor your vehicle will subsequently need repairs. Inflatable or not, a wall is a wall, friends.

Fortunately, three of my classmates were in line ahead of me and watching their successful execution of this kamikaze drill and hearing no telltale sounds of MedEvac helicopters approaching, I was filled with confidence. Misplaced confidence, apparently. Because when it was my turn to launch, although my Explorer did in fact come to a full and merciful stop just a foot short of the inflatable wall, it did so with no small amount of tire smoking. Pointing gravely at the digital radar speed sign blazing ā€œ28mph,ā€ the instructor sounded a bit like the last state trooper that Iā€™d (ahem) met, intoning ā€œA little slower next time, okay?ā€ I gave him a thumbs-up and a ā€œsorry about that, coachā€ shrug, but couldnā€™t let go of the realization that I had just purposely driven a multi-ton vehicle toward a wall at almost thirty miles per hour and said vehicle had stopped itself. Whoa.
 
BlackGun said:
There are too many reasons already for me not to buy a BMW. Yes they are great vehicles but after owning a Z4 I will never have another BMW. Itā€™s like there is a never ending cost on there products. No way to check oil, no oil filters to change (do not trust that at all), shields under engine so you canā€™t change oil, this list goes on. Heated seat subscription? Laughable.
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What year was your Z? I have a 17 M240i with the B58 engine and it is easy peasy to change the oil. Oil filter is top-mounted, doesnā€™t drip a drop when changing it, and oil pan is accessible through a trap door in the underbelly shield. Itā€™s a 20-25 minute job.
 
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Jeppo said:
I had a chance to test that. The instructions were clear, ā€œFeet off the pedals and hands off the wheel, otherwise the computer will think youā€™re able to avoid the collision and will not intercedeā€œ. Hereā€™s somebodyā€™s blog about the experience.

shoppress.dormanproducts.com

A sheep at the wheel: what I learned at the Ford ST SUV Experience

My new Explorer ST goes like a scalded dog. Fordā€™s Performance Driving School taught me how to avoid getting bitten.
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Drill number 2 required even more counterintuitive confidence in the same onboard technology. This time, weā€™d drive 200 feet between another straight lane of safety cones, hit 20mph, and roughly 20 feet before what seemed be an imminent collision with an inflatable wall painted to resemble the rear of a car, plant both feet on the floor and ā€œlet the emergency braking system take it from there.ā€

In case you didnā€™t fully grasp those instructions, let me recap for you: Drive an Explorer into a wall and assume neither you nor your vehicle will subsequently need repairs. Inflatable or not, a wall is a wall, friends.

Fortunately, three of my classmates were in line ahead of me and watching their successful execution of this kamikaze drill and hearing no telltale sounds of MedEvac helicopters approaching, I was filled with confidence. Misplaced confidence, apparently. Because when it was my turn to launch, although my Explorer did in fact come to a full and merciful stop just a foot short of the inflatable wall, it did so with no small amount of tire smoking. Pointing gravely at the digital radar speed sign blazing ā€œ28mph,ā€ the instructor sounded a bit like the last state trooper that Iā€™d (ahem) met, intoning ā€œA little slower next time, okay?ā€ I gave him a thumbs-up and a ā€œsorry about that, coachā€ shrug, but couldnā€™t let go of the realization that I had just purposely driven a multi-ton vehicle toward a wall at almost thirty miles per hour and said vehicle had stopped itself. Whoa.
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no thanks
 
MikeDawg46L said:
What year was your Z? I have a 17 M240i with the B58 engine and it is easy peasy to change the oil. Oil filter is top-mounted, doesnā€™t drip a drop when changing it, and oil pan is accessible through a trap door in the underbelly shield. Itā€™s a 20-25 minute job.
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I donā€™t remember the year or really much about it. I bought it, had it professionally cleaned, put a new convertible top on, new leather seats, and put my son in it. He didnā€™t like it so I sold it and bought a Pathfinder 4x4. I do remember a few parts had to be replaced on the engine that were plastic, on a hot engine. Found that cheesy considering they carried heated water from the cooling system. BMW engines are very good and their resale is exceptional. M Series models are phenomenal in curves and comfort is top notch.
 
BlackGun said:
I donā€™t remember the year or really much about it. I bought it, had it professionally cleaned, put a new convertible top on, new leather seats, and put my son in it. He didnā€™t like it so I sold it and bought a Pathfinder 4x4. I do remember a few parts had to be replaced on the engine that were plastic, on a hot engine. Found that cheesy considering they carried heated water from the cooling system. BMW engines are very good and their resale is exceptional. M Series models are phenomenal in curves and comfort is top notch.
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Gotcha. Was curious if it was a newer Z, since they use the same engine as the M240i/340i and Supra. Not sure on older models.
 
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