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Millie

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If a person is carrying a concealed gun? I don't think I've ever noticed anybody but my local police officers with a gun, and theirs are out and obvious. Oh, and the guys at the gun shop!
I guess this is good CC procedure, if you can't tell, but how can I tell? Maybe I'm just not paying proper attention to the people around me.....which is kind of a scary idea!
How do you know?
 
Most CC will be strong side and most people are right handed. A slight bulge in the right spot is one clue. A vest when it's 90° is out of place.

Even though I'm always looking, I probably miss half of them. Concealed means concealed
 
Yeah, the "shoot me first" photographer's vest is almost a sure way to tell, but not always. We have a gentleman at church who really is a photographer and wears his vest almost all the time but doesn't carry. On the other, hand I carry all the time and do wear a jacket even when it's 100 degrees at the cemetery like yesterday at a funeral. For just everyday carry OWB I slip on a nice Hawaiian shirt and let it just hang open during summer months or a shirt-jac in cooler months. For IWB carry a loose shirt usually will conceal fairly well. As @Howland said above, just look for a slight bulge on the strong side. It's not even noticeable to most people unless they are really looking for it. For women there is a holster bra made that will carry a small handgun in between the chest bulge so it's not noticeable either.
 
Yeah, the "shoot me first" photographer's vest is almost a sure way to tell, but not always. We have a gentleman at church who really is a photographer and wears his vest almost all the time but doesn't carry. On the other, hand I carry all the time and do wear a jacket even when it's 100 degrees at the cemetery like yesterday at a funeral. For just everyday carry OWB I slip on a nice Hawaiian shirt and let it just hang open during summer months or a shirt-jac in cooler months. For IWB carry a loose shirt usually will conceal fairly well. As @Howland said above, just look for a slight bulge on the strong side. It's not even noticeable to most people unless they are really looking for it. For women there is a holster bra made that will carry a small handgun in between the chest bulge so it's not noticeable either.
Got the "gun in the bra" thing covered now with a flashbang! It's going to work for me, I'm pretty sure.
 
I generally don't care enough to look for a concealed carrier specifically. I keep an eye on my surroundings, the people, and their behaviors, but if they don't trip one of my alarms, I don't scrutinize them.

But, as has been mentioned, bulges and out of place clothing are probably the two best indicators
 
I generally don't care enough to look for a concealed carrier specifically. I keep an eye on my surroundings, the people, and their behaviors, but if they don't trip one of my alarms, I don't scrutinize them.

But, as has been mentioned, bulges and out of place clothing are probably the two best indicators
What does trip the alarms?
 
Most people are oblivious. The bigggest tell for me is when I see someone actively paying attention.
 
What does trip the alarms?
A totality of circumstance.
Out of place clothing is a start, but not the end, either. Is the person wearing that jacket in July acting nervous and fidgety? Do their hands keep going under the jacket feeling for something? Are they staying in one spot staring at a particular person? When they move, does it seem as if they are following someone?
Or do they just have on a jacket for reasons unknown?

Example from personal experience:
I had come home from Iraq for R and R one August. It was 95-100 degrees everyday here, but as I was accustomed to ~140 degrees, there were times I actually felt cold.
My wife and I went to Applebys my second night home. I wore a jacket because I knew I would be cold inside in the a.c.
We sat in the bar area and there was a table full of cops that kept checking me out, because out of place clothing is an indicator.
As the Police finished their meal, they got up to leave. One moved to the bar, one to the front door, and one aporoached me while the other backed him up a few feet away.
About ten seconds of convo cleared that up and they left.

The point is that indicators are just that, indicators. An indication to look deeper. In the absence of further indications and behaviors, whatever you observed is most likely innocent behavior. It is a totality of circumstance that is different in each situation and hard to define or nail down.
 
@Millie ... Try the She-Bang products...

My wife has two of them, one corset and one belly band something, and she likes them a lot. No printing whatsoever
I'm actually going to try a lace belly band very soon. It looks promising and cooler than my current one.
 
Around here there are three types of people who carry: 1) the person OCing with a nylon holster flopping around and hanging by a thread 2) the person who CCs but is always bragging about it 3) the person who quietly goes about their business not making any fuss.

1 and 2 are easy to spot. I only spot 3s if I happen to see the clips from an iwb or recognize some behavior that tells me they're carrying, such as fanning their shirttail each time they get up or being careful about how they pick something up or keeping an arm tucked closer to keep a jacket from flaring out.
 
Around here there are three types of people who carry: 1) the person OCing with a nylon holster flopping around and hanging by a thread 2) the person who CCs but is always bragging about it 3) the person who quietly goes about their business not making any fuss.

1 and 2 are easy to spot. I only spot 3s if I happen to see the clips from an iwb or recognize some behavior that tells me they're carrying, such as fanning their shirttail each time they get up or being careful about how they pick something up or keeping an arm tucked closer to keep a jacket from flaring out.
I'm going to try to be more aware of my surroundings!
 
I'm actually going to try a lace belly band very soon. It looks promising and cooler than my current one.
I've got a belly band and it sucks. Uncomfortable as hell. The best holster is all of them if you lose enough weight. I don't know if you are fat, I had 20lbs too much, lost ten and still need to lose ten but the difference is amazing and carrying is effortless and comfortable in most all clothing.
 
I've never looked for people that may be carrying. Like someone said above, their actions will most likely tell you what you need to know. I've had a few people that I noticed were very "aware", and evidently noticed I was too, as we both wound up giving each other "the nod", haha.

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I have hip problems so I often wear a shoulder holster under a Hawaiian style shirt. Depending on how carefully I sit you can sometimes see a strap across the back of my neck as a tell that I am wearing a holster.
 
I've got a belly band and it sucks. Uncomfortable as hell. The best holster is all of them if you lose enough weight. I don't know if you are fat, I had 20lbs too much, lost ten and still need to lose ten but the difference is amazing and carrying is effortless and comfortable in most all clothing.
Yeah, I'm fat. Got about 50+ pounds to go....but I've been told that I "carry it well!" Lol.
 
I have hip problems so I often wear a shoulder holster under a Hawaiian style shirt. Depending on how carefully I sit you can sometimes see a strap across the back of my neck as a tell that I am wearing a holster.
On those the gun is under your arm? Or right up in the armpit? That might be an issue, as there is nerve damage under there....I'm just falling apart piece by piece!
 
An obvious bulge usually doesn't occur since CC are generally paranoid about it. Tommy Tacticals are obvious as well so I make it a point to try not to look the part so I don't get shot first.

There are only 3 less obvious tells that make me take notice. The first is the previously mentioned out of season clothing during the summer. Second is the extremely thick gun belt that often bulges around the body under the shirt. Third is for new CC who are constantly reaching to pull their shirt down.
 
An obvious bulge usually doesn't occur since CC are generally paranoid about it. Tommy Tacticals are obvious as well so I make it a point to try not to look the part so I don't get shot first.

There are only 3 less obvious tells that make me take notice. The first is the previously mentioned out of season clothing during the summer. Second is the extremely thick gun belt that often bulges around the body under the shirt. Third is for new CC who are constantly reaching to pull their shirt down.
Well, good thing my shirts are long then, right? Lol
 
I'm more concerned about the individuals walking around with a handgun in their hand.:)
 
On those the gun is under your arm? Or right up in the armpit? That might be an issue, as there is nerve damage under there....I'm just falling apart piece by piece!

The gun side is not all the way up in your armpit, but the other side is. My pistol starts at about my second rib.
 
Unless it's a serious print (you see a clear outline through the clothing) or actually see the pistol, then you don't "know" for sure. You just suspect.

@draco88 did a good job in describing. There are "tells" to look for.

You know all those questions you have about what type of holster to carry, what kind of gun, where and how to carry it, etc? Well, all of those concerns are actually good starting points for knowing where and what to look for.

Winter months are, of course, the most difficult times to pick up telltale signs of someone carrying, because people wear outer clothing like jackets, coats, sweaters, etc over their regular clothing. But:

- Anything that's not tucked in that comes down over the beltline MAY be an indicator of concealed carry.

- "Printing" or bulges in places where people commonly carry concealed weapons, like at the waist line or maybe under an arm (for shoulder holsters).

- Unusual clothing for the season, place, or event. Like wearing jackets in warm/hot weather, wearing long shirts in places where shirts are worn by few people (like beaches), etc.

- How a person comports themselves. This could be stance, how they interact with others, suspicious acts or postures, placing themselves so that their concealed weapon is less likely to be contacted by others, etc. People who carry, for example, when they encounter friends/family may hug such that they are the ones who place their arms under the other person's arms...this keeps that person's arms above and away from their firearm, decreasing the odds that the person will touch or otherwise notice they're armed.

- Sometimes the hands give signs...along with other things. suspicious acting individuals in suspicious circumstances and suspicious places with their hand/hands always in their pockets or under their hoodie, for example.

- People new to concealed carry tend to "touch" or "check" their weapon a lot...to be sure it's still concealed, to "hitch it up" or otherwise adjust it, and just out of nervous habit about something radically new to them.


It's a good game to play with oneself for a number of reasons, to try being observant enough to see if you can pick out people who are carrying concealed.

:)
 
Unless it's a serious print (you see a clear outline through the clothing) or actually see the pistol, then you don't "know" for sure. You just suspect.

@draco88 did a good job in describing. There are "tells" to look for.

You know all those questions you have about what type of holster to carry, what kind of gun, where and how to carry it, etc? Well, all of those concerns are actually good starting points for knowing where and what to look for.

Winter months are, of course, the most difficult times to pick up telltale signs of someone carrying, because people wear outer clothing like jackets, coats, sweaters, etc over their regular clothing. But:

- Anything that's not tucked in that comes down over the beltline MAY be an indicator of concealed carry.

- "Printing" or bulges in places where people commonly carry concealed weapons, like at the waist line or maybe under an arm (for shoulder holsters).

- Unusual clothing for the season, place, or event. Like wearing jackets in warm/hot weather, wearing long shirts in places where shirts are worn by few people (like beaches), etc.

- How a person comports themselves. This could be stance, how they interact with others, suspicious acts or postures, placing themselves so that their concealed weapon is less likely to be contacted by others, etc. People who carry, for example, when they encounter friends/family may hug such that they are the ones who place their arms under the other person's arms...this keeps that person's arms above and away from their firearm, decreasing the odds that the person will touch or otherwise notice they're armed.

- Sometimes the hands give signs...along with other things. suspicious acting individuals in suspicious circumstances and suspicious places with their hand/hands always in their pockets or under their hoodie, for example.

- People new to concealed carry tend to "touch" or "check" their weapon a lot...to be sure it's still concealed, to "hitch it up" or otherwise adjust it, and just out of nervous habit about something radically new to them.


It's a good game to play with oneself for a number of reasons, to try being observant enough to see if you can pick out people who are carrying concealed.

:)
I've never really thought much about whether people may be armed....till recently. But in any case, I realize I do need to be much more aware of what's going on around me! I've tended to only really look all around when going to my car in the dark. I need to pay attention way more than I have been.
With all the craziness out there, I'm lucky I haven't been marked out as a potential target for some sort of nefarious doin's! Lol.
 
Some of us are easy to spot if you look...because we quit caring if anybody sees it. I got to that point when I got a G21 and a OWB leather ChiefJason holster. Added a threaded barrel to the Glock, and probably >80% of the time you can see it sticking out below my shirts. But...a vast majority of people are so unaware of their surroundings that I stopped worrying about it.

I also print with some of the others I carry. Partly due to fluctuations in weight and wearing the same clothes. Again...I just don't worry about it. As long as I'm in NC, it doesn't matter if anybody sees it.
 
I stopped caring about printing years ago. I haven’t even owned a subcompact in years. I edc a G19. Don’t leave home without it. People are usually too self absorbed to look up from their phones. Sometimes I print pretty bad, but I know most people won’t notice. No one has ever said anything.
 
Some of us are easy to spot if you look...because we quit caring if anybody sees it. I got to that point when I got a G21 and a OWB leather ChiefJason holster. Added a threaded barrel to the Glock, and probably >80% of the time you can see it sticking out below my shirts. But...a vast majority of people are so unaware of their surroundings that I stopped worrying about it.

I also print with some of the others I carry. Partly due to fluctuations in weight and wearing the same clothes. Again...I just don't worry about it. As long as I'm in NC, it doesn't matter if anybody sees it.
Other states, you'd have to know whether they accept NC CC permits, right?
 
Other states, you'd have to know whether they accept NC CC permits, right?
Not even that. I mentioned it because in SC you can't open carry, so it has to stay concealed. I live 19 miles from SC, and my dad lives just across the border in Ft Mill.

In NC it doesn't matter...because I have a CHP and open carry is legal (no permit required).
 
Not germane but perhaps interesting...

Monday, I called the GSO airport and asked to speak with their police office. They connected me to the officer in charge. I explained I would be picking up my wife that evening and know that the terminal is posted for "No concealed firearms". I continued to explain that I have a CHP and wondered whether it was only the terminal or the entire airport property that is off-limits. He answered it is only the terminal and confirmed it is perfectly acceptable to leave my gun in the car.

Since I had him on the phone, I asked him to answer a question that had always interested me. I asked, is it only concealed carry that is prohibited but open carry would be permitted within the terminal. He kind of chuckled and explained that open carry is technically permitted (or actually not excluded by their postings) but, "You're going to draw A LOT of attention". I said, "OK, I don't think I'll test the meaning of too much attention". He finished the call by saying he wouldn't personally be on duty that evening and it was probably a good idea for me to leave the gun in the car.

Other than on my property and out to the mailbox, I've never open carried "in public". I don't think I want my first experience to be in an airport terminal. :eek:
 
I used to look for people carrying, but have decided that my limited resources are better spent identifying people that may develop into a threat, then evaluating them and the situation. It doesn’t happen often, but last month I decided to sit in my car for a few minutes at the gas pump rather than start pumping right away because of the way a group of folks were acting...Caucasian folks if that matters.

Still do see an occasional bulge or clip, but am not looking for them.
 
My normal carry piece prints quite a bit (at least I think so). Recently, I was standing at the check out line at Home Depot and a guy next to me (worrisome because he was very close to me and at my 4:00, on my strong side) began calmly ranting about some kind of altercation he'd had with another customer. At a certain point, apparently ranting about what he was capable of doing to the guy, he made a gesture with his hand as if drawing a pistol (you know, that kind of gesture we all made as kids). Reflecting back on it, the smart thing for me would have been to say, "Oh, I forgot something" and disappear into the store; eventually choosing a different cashier.

Live & learn
 
My normal carry piece prints quite a bit (at least I think so). Recently, I was standing at the check out line at Home Depot and a guy next to me (worrisome because he was very close to me and at my 4:00, on my strong side) began calmly ranting about some kind of altercation he'd had with another customer. At a certain point, apparently ranting about what he was capable of doing to the guy, he made a gesture with his hand as if drawing a pistol (you know, that kind of gesture we all made as kids). Reflecting back on it, the smart thing for me would have been to say, "Oh, I forgot something" and disappear into the store; eventually choosing a different cashier.

Live & learn
Do you worry that someone might try to take your gun away from you? Or you just don't let them get too close? All these things have been in my mind a lot lately. Soon, I might be walking around with a gun up my boobs, so I'm deeply interested in these issues. Not that anyone will be likely to grab my boobs, so I might be ok! Lol.
 
Soon, I might be walking around with a gun up my boobs, so I'm deeply interested in these issues. Not that anyone will be likely to grab my boobs, so I might be ok! Lol.
Stay away from The President and you should be fine. :p
 
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