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I've given up on getting durham to play nice with moving my ccw and am just going to get another one. Is $60 about as cheap as I can do it?
 
Is your original training certificate still valid? I think there's a period where they're still valid after getting it - but I also don't remember if the issuing SO keeps the cert... If you have it and it's still valid you should just be able to apply for a CHP at the new location's SO.

If not, might be worth reaching out to the person who did your training and perhaps they'll cut you a deal?

This is all assuming it wasn't long ago you certified of course!

There's a thread somewhere here about getting an out of state permit - might be a good short term solution?
 
OutLore said:
Is your original training certificate still valid? I think there's a period where they're still valid after getting it - but I also don't remember if the issuing SO keeps the cert... If you have it and it's still valid you should just be able to apply for a CHP at the new location's SO.
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Ours kept the original. I believe that’s standard practice, but don’t know for sure.
 
OutLore said:
Is your original training certificate still valid? I think there's a period where they're still valid after getting it - but I also don't remember if the issuing SO keeps the cert... If you have it and it's still valid you should just be able to apply for a CHP at the new location's SO.

If not, might be worth reaching out to the person who did your training and perhaps they'll cut you a deal?

This is all assuming it wasn't long ago you certified of course!

There's a thread somewhere here about getting an out of state permit - might be a good short term solution?
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I did it years ago. I thought they lasted less than a year.
 
I currently have a nc ccw that's still good for a yearand some but the Sheriff can go fall off a cliff for all I care. They're not making the address change feasible
 
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I don't think I can use a valid ccw to apply for another ccw
 
One thing to watch for on the class is whether they charge extra for using a third party range. Many do.
 
Notacop said:
Refuse to do it in anything but in person and normal garbage government hours. I was being slightly hyperbolic but I'm not taking off work for this nonsense
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Oh, typically the COA is done in person for fraud reasons and to issue you another piece of paper to carry in your wallet showing you did in fact change your address on your CHP … it is no charge unless you request an reprinted & updated CHP card which is $10 or $15. Under NCGS 14-415-11 you have 30 days to notify the issuing sheriff of a change in your permanent address. I have no idea of what not doing so actually does … especially with LEO units having computer access to your information … but with the Durham sheriff’s attitude like other liberal ones I’d be careful since he is in physical possession of your CHP file and it's content … fingerprints, training certificate, etc … which needs to be transferred to the sheriff in your new county. He could be even more of a pain in that area. With all the bovine caca we go through and even more of the grief and stuff the sheriffs can give us it might be better to take the time to visit the Records Division Office and get the nice ladies who do the real work to handle it right. Yeah, I know it sucks to have to drive to Durham, park and go thru the building security stuff for a 5 minute visit to the Records Division but it will make the renewal in Randolph much easier by having your file in hand.
 
NCFubar said:
Oh, typically the COA is done in person for fraud reasons and to issue you another piece of paper to carry in your wallet showing you did in fact change your address on your CHP … it is no charge unless you request an reprinted & updated CHP card which is $10 or $15. Under NCGS 14-415-11 you have 30 days to notify the issuing sheriff of a change in your permanent address. I have no idea of what not doing so actually does … especially with LEO units having computer access to your information … but with the Durham sheriff’s attitude like other liberal ones I’d be careful since he is in physical possession of your CHP file and it's content … fingerprints, training certificate, etc … which needs to be transferred to the sheriff in your new county. He could be even more of a pain in that area. With all the bovine caca we go through and even more of the grief and stuff the sheriffs can give us it might be better to take the time to visit the Records Division Office and get the nice ladies who do the real work to handle it right. Yeah, I know it sucks to have to drive to Durham, park and go thru the building security stuff for a 5 minute visit to the Records Division but it will make the renewal in Randolph much easier by having your file in hand.
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It seems most other counties let you do it online. I already went once long ago after I called to figure out when they were doing it and they were not going to do it for me that day.

I've since called every now and then to try to get a message through to let the Sheriff know he could service me. When I first got my ccw it involved lots of yelling until I got someone that wasn't a script reading secretary. They gave my dad a massive run around when he got his and it sat in their office for months after it was ready. I wouldn't be surprised to go down there and they still screw me over again.
 
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I think I'm gonna call up randolf court house and see what they think about getting a new one. I didn't think about this being an issue.
 
Maybe I’m dense, but it makes no sense for an individual to make an in-person request that the old sheriff send the file to the new sheriff. Surely you can go to your new sheriff, prove residency, make the request, and they’ll arrange the interagency transfer. Or am I misunderstanding, did you move TO Durham?
 
JimB said:
Maybe I’m dense, but it makes no sense for an individual to make an in-person request that the old sheriff send the file to the new sheriff. Surely you can go to your new sheriff, prove residency, make the request, and they’ll arrange the interagency transfer. Or am I misunderstanding, did you move TO Durham?
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I had to do that when I moved from Harnett to Rutherford. Luckily I was still traveling back and forth
 
JimB said:
Maybe I’m dense, but it makes no sense for an individual to make an in-person request that the old sheriff send the file to the new sheriff. Surely you can go to your new sheriff, prove residency, make the request, and they’ll arrange the interagency transfer. Or am I misunderstanding, did you move TO Durham?
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Yes the scum wants me to to drive back to Durham during their insane hours. I've done it once and they lied about their hours. As far as I'm concerned they have been "notified" they're playing games with the rest of the vagueness in the law.

I wouldn't go back to the Durham County Court house to piss on it at this point.
 
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So the only issue is their hours? I don't know if that's so bad. I always have to deal with the same for permits, they just happen to work similar hours than I do myself, I don't feel I can blame them for that.
 
I’d still ask my current sheriff it handle it, and if they refuse I’d hire a process server to serve the other sheriff. He gets served all the time, no big deal. Fill out whatever bs form is required, have it notarized, mail it to the process server, get electronic receipt.

If you really must appear in person I’d then send a letter to my state officials asking them to change the law because it’s stupid in the extreme.
 
JimB said:
I’d still ask my current sheriff it handle it, and if they refuse I’d hire a process server to serve the other sheriff. He gets served all the time, no big deal. Fill out whatever bs form is required, have it notarized, mail it to the process server, get electronic receipt.

If you really must appear in person I’d then send a letter to my state officials asking them to change the law because it’s stupid in the extreme.
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I'm sure they care deeply about me
 
Stogies said:
So the only issue is their hours? I don't know if that's so bad. I always have to deal with the same for permits, they just happen to work similar hours than I do myself, I don't feel I can blame them for that.
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Hours and being nowhere near where I live
 
JimB said:
If you really must appear in person I’d then send a letter to my state officials asking them to change the law because it’s stupid in the extreme.
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NCGS 14-415-11 … part d …

14-415.11. Permit to carry concealed handgun; scope of permit.

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(d) A person who is issued a permit shall notify the sheriff who issued the permit of any change in the person's permanent address within 30 days after the change of address. If a permit is lost or destroyed, the person to whom the permit was issued shall notify the sheriff who issued the permit of the loss or destruction of the permit. A person may obtain a duplicate permit by submitting to the sheriff a notarized statement that the permit was lost or destroyed and paying the required duplicate permit fee. (1995, c. 398, s. 1; c. 507, s. 22.1(c); c. 509, s. 135.3(e); 1997, c. 238, s. 6; 2000-140, s. 103; 2000-191, s. 5; 2005-232, s. 3; 2011-268, s. 14; 2015-241, s. 14.30(cc).)

The statute only says “notify the sheriff” so like some other statures each sheriff can impose his own “rules” for the change of address. Hell, I just recently learned the crazy Mecklenburg Co sheriff of all people allows CHP renewals to be submited over the internet … so this is county to county “choice” and the Statutes would allow the sheriff to handle it way easier … he’s either to stupid to realize this, to technologically challenged or just being a jackass … maybe in his case all 3!
 
NCFubar said:
NCGS 14-415-11 … part d …

14-415.11. Permit to carry concealed handgun; scope of permit.

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(d) A person who is issued a permit shall notify the sheriff who issued the permit of any change in the person's permanent address within 30 days after the change of address. If a permit is lost or destroyed, the person to whom the permit was issued shall notify the sheriff who issued the permit of the loss or destruction of the permit. A person may obtain a duplicate permit by submitting to the sheriff a notarized statement that the permit was lost or destroyed and paying the required duplicate permit fee. (1995, c. 398, s. 1; c. 507, s. 22.1(c); c. 509, s. 135.3(e); 1997, c. 238, s. 6; 2000-140, s. 103; 2000-191, s. 5; 2005-232, s. 3; 2011-268, s. 14; 2015-241, s. 14.30(cc).)

The statute only says “notify the sheriff” so like some other statures each sheriff can impose his own “rules” for the change of address. Hell, I just recently learned the crazy Mecklenburg Co sheriff of all people allows CHP renewals to be submited over the internet … so this is county to county “choice” and the Statutes would allow the sheriff to handle it way easier … he’s either to stupid to realize this, to technologically challenged or just being a jackass … maybe in his case all 3!
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I pretty much said here's your notification and some insults but randolf still says i need to go to Durham
 
Notacop said:
I pretty much said here's your notification and some insults but randolf still says i need to go to Durham
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Ironically Sheriff Seabolt & Randolph Co allows a change of address on permits they issued, and other services, to be handled by mail … https://www.randolphcountync.gov/Portals/0/Announcements/PermittingInstructionsJune16.pdf ... seems Sheriff Birdbrain in Durham has some control and agenda problems … along with wanting the county to get their parking deck fees also.
 
NCFubar said:
NCGS 14-415-11 … part d …

14-415.11. Permit to carry concealed handgun; scope of permit.

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(d) A person who is issued a permit shall notify the sheriff who issued the permit of any change in the person's permanent address within 30 days after the change of address. If a permit is lost or destroyed, the person to whom the permit was issued shall notify the sheriff who issued the permit of the loss or destruction of the permit. A person may obtain a duplicate permit by submitting to the sheriff a notarized statement that the permit was lost or destroyed and paying the required duplicate permit fee. (1995, c. 398, s. 1; c. 507, s. 22.1(c); c. 509, s. 135.3(e); 1997, c. 238, s. 6; 2000-140, s. 103; 2000-191, s. 5; 2005-232, s. 3; 2011-268, s. 14; 2015-241, s. 14.30(cc).)

The statute only says “notify the sheriff” so like some other statures each sheriff can impose his own “rules” for the change of address. Hell, I just recently learned the crazy Mecklenburg Co sheriff of all people allows CHP renewals to be submited over the internet … so this is county to county “choice” and the Statutes would allow the sheriff to handle it way easier … he’s either to stupid to realize this, to technologically challenged or just being a jackass … maybe in his case all 3!
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The question ultimatly is how the court, not the sheriff, will define “shall notify.” Would be hard for the sheriff to stand in front of a judge and say that they weren’t notified if you used a process server and have a receipt.

Notacop said:
I'm sure they care deeply about me
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Don’t underestimate the ability of one determined person to make a change, it happens all the time.
 
It is absolutely insane that we continue to allow these shenanigan's with what ultimately be an allowable right to be exercised. Having to jump though the hoops some of the SO's require is not just inconvenient, it's insulting.
 
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