chickens coming home to roost at UNCC

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What did they THINK was gonna happen in the 'University City' after that light rail made it easy for criminals to move to and fro throughout N. CLT?

The signs should light up 'Now Serving Hidden Valley to UNCC all day!'
http://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/no...sion-at-apartment-complex-near-uncc/696898399

So far in the last 48hrs, there was a robbery at gunpoint at the Student Union, and now a home invasion.

Good work Queen City. You have just become the little Detroit of the south.

God I hate this place. And the people who made it this way. I'm wearing my G19 every day I have to come in this place, and I'm putting the blackout pistol in the truck.
 
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The train doesn't have anything to do with it--the crime and/or ability to do it was there before they've transported the first body. That area has been in a downward spiral for 10-15 years. Like it or not, this is the "community" that comes with highly transient housing (i.e. apartments). College kids and contract bank workers make up a huge percentage of UC.

I agree: the train runs through some of the crappiest crap holes in town. The original line did too--maybe not AS bad, but it used to be a crappy side of town down the south end...and look at what's happened to the South End. I bet it's going to do some of the same along the extension corridor. It already has to the NoDa area, and it's propagating outward from there.
 
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9outof10mms said:
The train doesn't have anything to do with it--the crime and/or ability to do it was there before they've transported the first body. That area has been in a downward spiral for 10-15 years. Like it or not, this is the "community" that comes with highly transient housing (i.e. apartments). College kids and contract bank workers make up a huge percentage of UC.

I agree: the train runs through some of the crappiest crap holes in town. The original line did too--maybe not AS bad, but it used to be a crappy side of town down the south end...and look at what's happened to the South End. I bet it's going to do some of the same along the extension corridor. It already has to the NoDa area, and it's propagating outward from there.
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#1. The upper South end was already in 'rejuvenation' mode before the choo choo ever stopped anywhere. It's too close to the hipsters, old yuppies and drunken bankers uptown so the CMPD presence is tremendous there.
#2. Absolutely, N Charlotte has been a sh!thole ever since they gentrified "downtown" into "uptown" in the late 90s. Uptown sports YAY! Bars! Homeless on every bus bench! What a crock of S.
#3. I am one of those bank workers in the UC. I have seen it spiral downward. The newer Walmart on N Tryon had a shooting on the first Sunday during daylight after it opened. My sister was a student at UNCC and got her car broken into 4 times during her tenture there. She had zero items of value each time. I told her just to leave it unlocked so they wouldn't bust out her window anymore.

#4. The Choo Choo will directly serve Hidden Valley and the rest of the sh!thole neighborhoods along Hooker Highway aka Sugar Crack rd.. They gotta have somewhere else to do their business. UNCC is the perfect stop.

#5. I have done "beer runs" thru Noda when the old NoDa brewery was still next to Birdsong. A block out of N. Davidson and you're in the hood. No thanks. We don't frequent that hipster creation anymore.
 
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Ikarus1 said:
#1. The upper South end was already in 'rejuvenation' mode before the choo choo ever stopped anywhere. It's too close to the hipsters, old yuppies and drunken bankers uptown so the CMPD presence is tremendous there.
#2. Absolutely, N Charlotte has been a sh!thole ever since they gentrified "downtown" into "uptown" in the late 90s. Uptown sports YAY! Bars! Homeless on every bus bench! What a crock of S.
#3. I am one of those bank workers in the UC. I have seen it spiral downward. The newer Walmart on N Tryon had a shooting on the first Sunday during daylight after it opened. My sister was a student at UNCC and got her car broken into 4 times during her tenture there. She had zero items of value each time. I told her just to leave it unlocked so they wouldn't bust out her window anymore.

#4. The Choo Choo will directly serve Hidden Valley and the rest of the sh!thole neighborhoods along Hooker Highway aka Sugar Crack rd.. They gotta have somewhere else to do their business. UNCC is the perfect stop.

#5. I have done "beer runs" thru Noda when the old NoDa brewery was still next to Birdsong. A block out of N. Davidson and you're in the hood. No thanks. We don't frequent that hipster creation anymore.
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Agreed with everything except the notion that bad guys are gonna use the train to expand their terror reach. The light rail is one of the worst examples of big brother--cameras everywhere, undercover ticket agents...all things bad guys don't like.

And while South End was in redevelop mode, a lot of it had to do with just the news of the train coming through. The smart ones got out ahead of it while the land was cheap and building was cheap during the recession. The ones going at it like gangbusters right now are paying dearly for it--as are the idiots that will pay for those condos.

And yes: that WalMart is a crap hole form day one. We lived a few miles form there. My wife and mother in law were excited about its opening, but I put the kibosh on that! It's one of the few instances I've "forbidden" my wife from doing anything. The "riots" of last year--or whenever they were--justified my perceived "racism" as I was accused by others at the time. The safety of one's ass has zero to do with skin color and everything to do with the quality of the humans around you. I was in that store by emergency circumstances one evening. I have never had a stronger "spidey sense" of something about to go down or happen then in that store. Call me sheltered. But when a pretty large guy, who's armed to the teeth and has heard a wide variety of vile/disgusting comments, gets nervous, that's a sign of it not being a good place to be. The level of "conversations" I easily overheard while standing in the check out line was nothing short of horrific.

It's too bad they didn't burn the place down during the riots.
 
Now, the street car...aka: the transportation device specifically targeted to serve predominantly one race and class of Charlotte people...that's a whole 'nother story. A free ride from some craptastic neighborhoods (once fully completed) straight into uptown--yeah, what could wrong?
 
Well, I gotta disagree with the comparison to Detroit.

I lived in that area long enough to know that someone would have been murdered by now.

Charlotte needs to step up it's game, yo.
 
20 years ago they started building the American Tobacco Trail in Durham, a north-south trail. Everyone said that since the trail went through impoverished and high-crime neighborhoods the trail was just going to be a means to export that element into the better neighborhoods. Of course, everyone was called a racist for thinking such a thing.

They built the trail, and guess what? You know what. Crime in the better neighborhoods (B&Es, vandalism, petty theft, car theft) went up, like 700%.
 
I work in University City as well. I commute up there 4 days a week from Indian Trail. I have worked in the area for over 12 years, and I still don’t know my way around very well. I get to work and then get to 485 as soon as I can. I avoid going anywhere in UC besides work if I can help it.
 
Climberman said:
As someone in the industry, it is difficult to acquire right of way through nice areas. Much easier in areas no one cares about.
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I would also say that nicer areas don't want or need the light rail. This isn't NYC metro where a couple million people all commute to work in 5sq miles, making driving nearly impossible.
 
Our Coastal Carolina University rolled along fine for decades and then introduced their multi-millon dollar football program. Within 18 months, crime was up 400% on campus and dorms. Draw your own conclusions.
 
Used to have my boat in Southport. Owner of a business said to me, "they should just put in a high-speed rail line in the median of I-40...the property is already there. Then, all those people from the Triangle can just zip down here." I asked him if he thought maybe there'd be people zipping down that he didn't want zipping down.

And, he couldn't imagine what I meant. "Demographics is destiny" I said.
 
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Well, I gotta disagree with the comparison to Detroit.

I lived in that area long enough to know that someone would have been murdered by now.

Charlotte needs to step up it's game, yo.
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http://www.wcnc.com/article/news/cr...micide-rate-highest-in-25-years/275-503032524

Despite the above average job market and income vs the rest of the US, our murder rate is skyrocketing. Just give it time. I already talk to people everyday that are fleeing MeckCo as fast as they got here from wherever they came from. They've seen it before. Me being an NC hometown boy, I only saw it in the sh!thole towns I got stuck in along my travels.

I can tell you that eating at the Cook Out on Sugar Creek or Milton/Sharon Amity and stopping at a gas station in Newark NJ is a similar experience. Probably the same people involved also. Of course, they have crime all over the city nowadays. UC just seems overly ripe, and that shows in the places where the trouble last year started.

Oh, but never in South Meck lol

http://www.wbtv.com/story/35140355/no-one-injured-in-shooting-outside-southpark
 
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JimB said:
I don’t mind development, but the development of south end drove out Phat Burritto, and that I can not abide.
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I don’t think I can like this enough. My wife and I live in south end before we started having kids. Phat burrito was a staple. I think we found the place shortly after they opened in 98 or 99.
 
Ikarus1 said:
http://www.wcnc.com/article/news/cr...micide-rate-highest-in-25-years/275-503032524

Despite the above average job market and income vs the rest of the US, our murder rate is skyrocketing. Just give it time. I already talk to people everyday that are fleeing MeckCo as fast as they got here from wherever they came from. They've seen it before. Me being an NC hometown boy, I only saw it in the sh!thole towns I got stuck in along my travels.

I can tell you that eating at the Cook Out on Sugar Creek or Milton/Sharon Amity and stopping at a gas station in Newark NJ is a similar experience. Probably the same people involved also. Of course, they have crime all over the city nowadays. UC just seems overly ripe, and that shows in the places where the trouble last year started.

Oh, but never in South Meck lol

http://www.wbtv.com/story/35140355/no-one-injured-in-shooting-outside-southpark
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I moved to NC in 1990. Landed in Charlotte. Lived there for 6 years and Belmont for 2 1/2. Moved to Hendersonville in late '98. I'm quite happy with my choice to leave there and get away from all that nonsense. Best thing I ever did.
 
from the top....."What did they THINK was gonna happen..."
they didn't.
 
Jerzsubbie said:
I would also say that nicer areas don't want or need the light rail. This isn't NYC metro where a couple million people all commute to work in 5sq miles, making driving nearly impossible.
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ahh but they want to be NYC just like Asheville wants to be san francisco...
 
My wife and I moved to Charlotte in 1983. It did not take long find the areas of town to avoid such as Hidden Valley. In 2003 we moved 6 miles east to Mint Hill which had a pretty low crime rate other than near the Morris Farms subdivision. Lately there has been an increasing number of car break-ins is some of the neighborhoods, but I think that is mostly local people. My youngest brother attended UNC-Charlotte in the late eighties. It was a pretty safe area back then. Unfortunately, it is not now.
 
Random thoughts from a people watcher. Spent a lot of time traveling and watching folks in airports. Been frequenting Cabela’s and also getting my CHP renewed and also looking at the demographics of my wife’s CHP class in Clayton.

Was at Wake county CHP yesterday while she completed PW and was printed. Conclusions from over a year of random observations.

Nice AFAM women and a few men are arming. Talked to them yesterday. Friendly. Concerned about crime in their neighborhoods.

Same for a Hispanic group at Cabela’s. Several were making their first handgun purchase and then planning on CHP.

Late middle aged white couple yesterday getting CHP....BOTH.

DW’s CHP class was about 30% female and some Hispanic.

Bottom line, law abiding folks that neve would have thought about owning a gun, much less CHP, are now going full bore. Thanks to all the Sanctuary city ballyhooing.

Jim Goodmon, CEO of Capitol Broadcasting, owns Durham Bulls and also many DT property. He forbid the reporters from covering the Tobacco Trail crime uptick.

He was also the “Private Citizen” who spoke up at all the public hearings about developing Dorothea Dix. Seems that his sons and his buddies and their kids have purchased all the “slum houses “ in the area between the Convention Center and Dix. They chased out and evicted the folks that lived there. Now trying to have the public housing torn down.

Just move the poor or lower class out and cause them to find houses they can’t afford. That reduces crime....RIGHT.

Have ridden the Lt Rail in Charlotte to the ACC tournament. Found a place to park and bribed a guard the next day and walked.

I would support light rail in Raleigh if they would include RDU. The RDU BOD soundly said NO...it would hurt our parking revenue.

Politicians that want to help the poor and downtrodden usually will make big $$’s in their side deals....regardless of Donkey or Elephant affiliation.

EOR - End Of Rant
 
As someone going to UNCC right now, yeah, the majority of students that went to CPCC, and saw all the emails about armed robberies in the parking garages right after, we're "looking forward" to this.

Also, y'all forgot the homeless guy earlier this week that snuck in a dorm and groped a girl, about two days before the armed robbery.
 
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Hardly a day goes by without me thinking how glad I am not to live there anymore. I did 5 years at UNCC and then got the heck out and back home. Had a couple of great job offers from some Charlotte firms when I graduated and I wouldn't even consider them.
 
A cousin of mine works in Georgetown. There's talk of a train to Georgetown because of how bad the traffic is. Wouldn't you know, the rich liberals there do NOT want a train there. They aren't idiots.

They'll tell you all how to live and who to live next to, but they don't subject themselves to the same guidelines.

As for cameras deterring thugs - not so much. You see this all the time in places like NYC where cameras capture thugs being thugs. A lot of the thugs who would get around by train are too young and poor to have a car. They aren't professional criminals who know to dodge fixed cameras. We are talking about people dumb enough to post online videos of themselves committing crimes.
 
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essentially, college students are considered Rich.
of course, most aren't...it's just that they are "seen" that way.
~if you can afford the tuition, you have more money than me~
Crime Comes to Campus...next on NBC/CBS/ABC, etc.
 
Chuckman said:
20 years ago they started building the American Tobacco Trail in Durham, a north-south trail. Everyone said that since the trail went through impoverished and high-crime neighborhoods the trail was just going to be a means to export that element into the better neighborhoods. Of course, everyone was called a racist for thinking such a thing.

They built the trail, and guess what? You know what. Crime in the better neighborhoods (B&Es, vandalism, petty theft, car theft) went up, like 700%.
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Never mind all the rapes on the Trail.
 
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