CICI's Pizza (What would you do)

I already threw AT&T under the bus. Only
but so many choices.
OTA antenna and internet for anything else. Don't really need cable I'd you have Netflix/Hulu/Amazon. I told dish to f off a few years ago. A one time purchase of $80 got me a huge ass antenna that picks up almost all the broadcasts (for some reason wunc doesn't come in, but that's not really a loss - the only show we liked was Antiques Roadshow)
 
As to the op, be nice to your kid and buy him better pizza. Second, I don't look for signs. Third, I work in a bank that's not posted. We've had oc guys come in and make the ladies at the teller line squirm but the manager agrees with me and doesn't think it should be posted. Unfortunately, if I get caught carrying at work I get fired. Fourth, I worked at another brokerage firm years ago. We had an employee get fired and made threats when he left. The firm hired a security firm but had it in the contract that the guard was not allowed to draw his weapon. Stupid is as stupid does.
 
I still don't know why folks here that are all Pro-2A and Pro carry come out saying "i don't see the signs", "concealed is concealed" and "I'll carry there anyway". Apparently these places aren't Pro 2-A, don't give a F%^k about your rights and in the case of the OP, just want your money for their crappy product.
They put up a sign, I don't go there, I take my wallet elsewhere. Now what someone else is starting to say on here, for all the I'll carry anyway folks, even though it might be a 100% legitimate shoot you might get into I'm gonna bet that nowadays you are the one who shot the poor victim, and you shot him in a place where your evil gun shouldn't have been to begin with.
Plus I live in SC it isn't an infraction here, it is an a criminal act. Sign on the door, I take my wallet elsewhere.
Remember the site that most of us came from before here, they put their sign on the door and everyone left.
 
I just want to add, if we don't tell them why they are losing our and our families' business, they won't know that removing the sign might increase their sales.

On the flip side, I wonder how many antis boycott a business that isn't posted?
 
I just want to add, if we don't tell them why they are losing our and our families' business, they won't know that removing the sign might increase their sales.

On the flip side, I wonder how many antis boycott a business that isn't posted?

I would imagine very few. Many businesses have come out and said "we ask our patrons to leave their guns at home" without posting a sign, which the antis seem to think is good enough.
 
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The Asiana in Asheville posted a No Concealed sign on their door and I called their manager. She said someone came in Open Carrying and upset a couple customers, so they put up the sign. I explained that open carry was legal in NC and he was not breaking any laws. I also explained that the concealed sign would not prohibit open carry. I went on to say that CHP holders were the most law abiding citizens in the state, but after reading this post, I doubt if I will be saying that again. Anyway, she said she had no idea what the law was and thanked me for calling and she said she would remove the sign, which she did.
 
Not sure how the "concealed means concealed" statement of if it's posted I just don't see the sign and go in anyway thing really flies right when it comes to a privately owned business. This guy pays rent, pays utilities, pays salaries, etc for HIS business and I actually believe it is his right to control things within his business. We argue a business should be able to refuse to make a wedding cake for a gay marriage because it is the owner's right ... well it us his right to not have guns brought into his business and I respect his choice and will tell him so when I inform him in person, email, letter, social media that I am not spending 1¢ more there and I am telling everyone I know how those signs really do little good since criminals don't follow them and in fact like them because honest law abiding people are likely not in there so easy pickings! I use to have cards from another forum that basically said no guns allowed = no dollars spent. Surprisingly I have had good results from the independent businesses ... corporate stores give you the home office thing and good luck there.

My take is to respectfully inform the owner you will not be spending your money there and will make sure all you friends know this along with a huge forum of firearms owners who will tell their friends ... loss at the bottom line hits hard especially in a restaurant business where they count people thru the door like Cici's does.
 
Not sure how the "concealed means concealed" statement of if it's posted I just don't see the sign and go in anyway thing really flies right when it comes to a privately owned business. This guy pays rent, pays utilities, pays salaries, etc for HIS business and I actually believe it is his right to control things within his business. We argue a business should be able to refuse to make a wedding cake for a gay marriage because it is the owner's right ... well it us his right to not have guns brought into his business and I respect his choice and will tell him so when I inform him in person, email, letter, social media that I am not spending 1¢ more there and I am telling everyone I know how those signs really do little good since criminals don't follow them and in fact like them because honest law abiding people are likely not in there so easy pickings! I use to have cards from another forum that basically said no guns allowed = no dollars spent. Surprisingly I have had good results from the independent businesses ... corporate stores give you the home office thing and good luck there.

My take is to respectfully inform the owner you will not be spending your money there and will make sure all you friends know this along with a huge forum of firearms owners who will tell their friends ... loss at the bottom line hits hard especially in a restaurant business where they count people thru the door like Cici's does.
Appreciate the voice of reason
 
Not sure how the "concealed means concealed" statement of if it's posted I just don't see the sign and go in anyway thing really flies right when it comes to a privately owned business. This guy pays rent, pays utilities, pays salaries, etc for HIS business and I actually believe it is his right to control things within his business.
They may have the right to control, at least to an extent, the things that go on in their business, but they don't have the right to control what goes on or in my body be it a cell phone, pocket knife, medical device, colostomy bag, or even a gun. No, guns are NOT different, despite what the the Regressive Leftists say. There is a limit to where their ability and right to control ends, and another persons' begins. Openly displaying a firearm is similar to the no shirt, no shoes, no service principle in that it in plain site and blatantly obvious and has a potential to offend. A similar principle would be refusing to serve a customer while they're yacking on the cell phone at the counter compared to a phone carried discretely in a belt case or a pocket, or telling someone that their presence is unwelcome because they're yelling obscenities in a store. It is the disruptive nature of the act that is the problem. A concealed handgun does not cause such disruption.
 
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That is unsupported. Perhaps an assumption or opinion but not a supported fact.
I am not exactly following what you're saying. Would you please clarify. Are you saying that an openly carried gun is not potentially disruptive? It wouldn't be to me, but to someone who has an irrational fear of them it could be, much the same way swearing or wearing a shirt with an offensive slogan on it could be.

The fact remains that if someone thinks that I will agree or recognize the idea that by opening their store to the public that they somehow have grounds to control what I conceal on my body, they would be wrong.
 
I think with the libs it's not the disruptive act of open carry that they flame out over. It's the (irrational) thought that any sort of firearm, be it concealed or otherwise, in their presence is objectionable. Some things we just can't fix.

So far as the second point, they do not care if you agree or not with them about carrying in their store. The law is on their side. You can argue that one in court should it come to that.
 
Maybe this was addresses upthread and I missed it. When an establishment is posted, it also means you get to traverse the street or parking if you so choose or are required to do business with them (government buildings or the aforementioned sanctioned monopolies) unarmed, so their trampling of your rights extends beyond the confines of their establishment.
This statement is spot on.
 
I keep hearing about these "signs", but have yet to see one.

Besides, concealed means concealed.

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I think with the libs it's not the disruptive act of open carry that they flame out over. It's the (irrational) thought that any sort of firearm, be it concealed or otherwise, in their presence is objectionable. Some things we just can't fix.

So far as the second point, they do not care if you agree or not with them about carrying in their store. The law is on their side. You can argue that one in court should it come to that.

True freedom has risk. The left prefers the illusion of safety the government "provides", the rest of us will take our chances.
 
I'm a dodgy immigrant alien. NC didn't allow resident alien to get a CHP so I had a non-resident Utah permit and a middle finger and carried

Then Utah buckled to pressure to add in the provision that you had to be eligible for a permit in your home state to renew/get an out of state permit, so that was that.

NC has since changed the CHP to include legal resident alien but divorce and a run of bad luck has stripped me of most of my guns and the cost of the class + filing fees has kept me from getting an NC permit again.

I'm actually one of those people that open carries sometimes and doesn't give two tugs of a dead dogs pizzle if it freaks out the soccer mums. I don't confront people with it, I don't protest Starbucks but I also no longer worry about what sheep think of me. Too old for that shit.

I am sorry to hear that, I am a legal resident alien myself and used a UT non res permit before NC made it legal for us as well. I can sympathize with the financial considerations as well, it took me a full year to scrounge up the funds to pay close to 200$ just to do again what I had done for 5 years before for 75$ or so. For many reasons like yours, 200 $ is a lot of money for many people these days.
 
I didn't consider what this means to resident aliens. Very interesting.

I'm late to the party but I'll weigh in: I agree with everyone saying to talk to the manager. Let them know your concerns, but don't expect anything out of it. If it's a franchise, speak with the owner. When someone yells "aloha snackbar" at a crowded get together when the children are there I bet that guy will wish you were around. - The lack of common sense never ceases to amaze me.

A lot of people hate on hippies, but I haven't seen any of these signs at Mellow Mushroom, and the pizza is far better, so...
 
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