You guys are making me hungry!
AND giving me a headache.....
You guys are making me hungry!
OTA antenna and internet for anything else. Don't really need cable I'd you have Netflix/Hulu/Amazon. I told dish to f off a few years ago. A one time purchase of $80 got me a huge ass antenna that picks up almost all the broadcasts (for some reason wunc doesn't come in, but that's not really a loss - the only show we liked was Antiques Roadshow)I already threw AT&T under the bus. Only
but so many choices.
And it really hurts when I get run over, haha.I already threw AT&T under the bus. Only
but so many choices.
I just want to add, if we don't tell them why they are losing our and our families' business, they won't know that removing the sign might increase their sales.
On the flip side, I wonder how many antis boycott a business that isn't posted?
Appreciate the voice of reasonNot sure how the "concealed means concealed" statement of if it's posted I just don't see the sign and go in anyway thing really flies right when it comes to a privately owned business. This guy pays rent, pays utilities, pays salaries, etc for HIS business and I actually believe it is his right to control things within his business. We argue a business should be able to refuse to make a wedding cake for a gay marriage because it is the owner's right ... well it us his right to not have guns brought into his business and I respect his choice and will tell him so when I inform him in person, email, letter, social media that I am not spending 1¢ more there and I am telling everyone I know how those signs really do little good since criminals don't follow them and in fact like them because honest law abiding people are likely not in there so easy pickings! I use to have cards from another forum that basically said no guns allowed = no dollars spent. Surprisingly I have had good results from the independent businesses ... corporate stores give you the home office thing and good luck there.
My take is to respectfully inform the owner you will not be spending your money there and will make sure all you friends know this along with a huge forum of firearms owners who will tell their friends ... loss at the bottom line hits hard especially in a restaurant business where they count people thru the door like Cici's does.
They may have the right to control, at least to an extent, the things that go on in their business, but they don't have the right to control what goes on or in my body be it a cell phone, pocket knife, medical device, colostomy bag, or even a gun. No, guns are NOT different, despite what the the Regressive Leftists say. There is a limit to where their ability and right to control ends, and another persons' begins. Openly displaying a firearm is similar to the no shirt, no shoes, no service principle in that it in plain site and blatantly obvious and has a potential to offend. A similar principle would be refusing to serve a customer while they're yacking on the cell phone at the counter compared to a phone carried discretely in a belt case or a pocket, or telling someone that their presence is unwelcome because they're yelling obscenities in a store. It is the disruptive nature of the act that is the problem. A concealed handgun does not cause such disruption.Not sure how the "concealed means concealed" statement of if it's posted I just don't see the sign and go in anyway thing really flies right when it comes to a privately owned business. This guy pays rent, pays utilities, pays salaries, etc for HIS business and I actually believe it is his right to control things within his business.
It is the disruptive nature of the act that is the problem.
I am not exactly following what you're saying. Would you please clarify. Are you saying that an openly carried gun is not potentially disruptive? It wouldn't be to me, but to someone who has an irrational fear of them it could be, much the same way swearing or wearing a shirt with an offensive slogan on it could be.That is unsupported. Perhaps an assumption or opinion but not a supported fact.
This statement is spot on.Maybe this was addresses upthread and I missed it. When an establishment is posted, it also means you get to traverse the street or parking if you so choose or are required to do business with them (government buildings or the aforementioned sanctioned monopolies) unarmed, so their trampling of your rights extends beyond the confines of their establishment.
My eyesight is getting worse as I continue to age!I keep hearing about these "signs", but have yet to see one.
Besides, concealed means concealed.
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I think with the libs it's not the disruptive act of open carry that they flame out over. It's the (irrational) thought that any sort of firearm, be it concealed or otherwise, in their presence is objectionable. Some things we just can't fix.
So far as the second point, they do not care if you agree or not with them about carrying in their store. The law is on their side. You can argue that one in court should it come to that.
I'm a dodgy immigrant alien. NC didn't allow resident alien to get a CHP so I had a non-resident Utah permit and a middle finger and carried
Then Utah buckled to pressure to add in the provision that you had to be eligible for a permit in your home state to renew/get an out of state permit, so that was that.
NC has since changed the CHP to include legal resident alien but divorce and a run of bad luck has stripped me of most of my guns and the cost of the class + filing fees has kept me from getting an NC permit again.
I'm actually one of those people that open carries sometimes and doesn't give two tugs of a dead dogs pizzle if it freaks out the soccer mums. I don't confront people with it, I don't protest Starbucks but I also no longer worry about what sheep think of me. Too old for that shit.