CleanShot 135gr 9mm

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Anyone loading minor pf with Lovex CleanShot? @Mike Overlay I know you're a fan for 40, tried it in 9mm? I believe I got my current ClayDot load from one of your posts.

Using a powder coated 133/135gr cast bullet in 9mm can't find anything for the weight.

Thinking 3.5/3.6gr should do. Extrapolating leads me to believe it's safe, just wanted to check for experience before I waste time dragging out the chrono. If I get no replies I'll trudge on and post results. Thanks
 
This data is for 124 Gr Truncated Cone RMR bullet. 5 inch M&P barrel.

Name: 124 Gr TC RMR 4.2 gr CS
Notes: 124 Gr TC RMR
4.2 gr Cleanshot
1.125 OAL

Shots: 10
Average: 1059 FPS
SD: 12 FPS
Min: 1040 FPS
Max: 1075 FPS
Spread: 35 FPS
Power Factor Average: 131
Power Factor Low: 129
Power Factor High: 133
Barometric Pressure: 30.2 inHg
Temperature: 65F
Weight: 124 grains


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Beef15 said:
Anyone loading minor pf with Lovex CleanShot? @Mike Overlay I know you're a fan for 40, tried it in 9mm? I believe I got my current ClayDot load from one of your posts.

Using a powder coated 133/135gr cast bullet in 9mm can't find anything for the weight.

Thinking 3.5/3.6gr should do. Extrapolating leads me to believe it's safe, just wanted to check for experience before I waste time dragging out the chrono. If I get no replies I'll trudge on and post results. Thanks
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I chrono'd a 133gr load back in the summer out of my G34. 3.3 grs cleanshot gave me 975 fps. 3.6 might be hot to start with.
Keep in mind I chrono'd it in 100% heat.
 
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Out of an XDM 5.25, Ive seen 3.5gr clean shot push a 130gr coated lead HP an average 1023 FPS/133 PF. You could probably drop down a tenth or two to start and be good.

If you still have or use clay dot, 3.3 makes 990 FPS/128 PF out of the same gun.
 
G17 so a little less barrel than you guys, seems 3.4 might be a good start.

3.3 of ClayDot is what I've been using. Bout out, have CleanShot so figured I should at least try it.

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I had 3.2 to 3.3 averages under a 135gr xtreme @1.135 oal and If memory serves me right next, itwas low 130’s pf
 
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Anyone noticed any lot to lot variance?

Curious because we have a half grain range here all landing in about the same pf.

A half grain with a fast pistol powder is pretty big, should be more than any like weight and composition bullet requires to maintain velocity with only slight differences in barrel length. I always heard plated is typically slower than coated but the one mentioned has the lowest charge.

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I saw the differences also and was wondering the same. My OAL is a little longer. I was using the cheapest chrono that I could buy. It’s a Caldwell.
 
Different OALs, varying bullet types/weights and inconsistent or incorrect powder drops can result in significant variations with the results we are seeing.




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Beef15 said:
Anyone noticed any lot to lot variance?

Curious because we have a half grain range here all landing in about the same pf.

A half grain with a fast pistol powder is pretty big, should be more than any like weight and composition bullet requires to maintain velocity with only slight differences in barrel length. I always heard plated is typically slower than coated but the one mentioned has the lowest charge.

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The variance comes from how deep you set your bullet. Some of my cast bullets are set way deep and don't need as much powder to build up pressure.
 
I'm not sure how cleanshot compares to unique but I think I'm shooting the exact bullet you are? NOE mold without lube grooves? I JUST finished my load development and it's 4.2gr unique at 1.14 was right at 1,000 fps for a PF of 133. When I chronoed it was cloudy and 65 degrees.
 
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I'm not sure how cleanshot compares to unique but I think I'm shooting the exact bullet you are? NOE mold without lube grooves? I JUST finished my load development and it's 4.2gr unique at 1.14 was right at 1,000 fps for a PF of 133. When I chronoed it was cloudy and 65 degrees.
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The NOE HTC 358 133 RN fantastic bullet. Cleanshot is significantly faster than Unique.

I did my initial development with Titegroup, Bullseye, and ClayDot but started a little too low, was gonna load all again working up a couple more tenths but had the Classic closing in and stumbled on Mike Overlay's ClayDot load, ran 10 over the chrono, satisfied, loaded up a couple hundred, took them to the range and landed 2.5" groups at 25yds, chrono'd 128 at the Classic. Now I have some time so I thought I'd revisit the bench, do have some Unique down there somewhere.
 
How does Clean Shot compare to its Accurate equivalent? (#2?)
 
Made it to the range. 133gr RN PC'd bullet sized .356 OAL 1.135 WSP primer 10rnds of each from a G17
3.4gr Cleanshot Avg: 935fps ES: 15 SD: 4 PF: 124
3.6gr Cleanshot Avg: 979fps ES: 12 SD: 4 PF: 130
Both went into about 4" groups at 25yds, which is about as good as I get with irons. These are the best SD numbers I've ever seen.

Also ran
3.4gr Titegroup Avg: 976 ES: 19 SD: 5 shot very poor, can't promise it wasn't me was the first group of the day
3.5gr Titegroup Avg: 999 ES: 28 SD: 9
3.5gr Bullseye Avg: 996 ES: 29 SD: 9 with a CCI, with a WSP was 10fps slower ES and SD tighter by 3 and 2 respectively
Groups were in the 4.5/5" range
 
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How does Clean Shot compare to its Accurate equivalent? (#2?)
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Cleanshot literally is old formula Accurate #2. Old Accurate #2 was made in Czechoslovakia. When Accurate moved the powder manufacturer to St Marks Florida, they changed the formula. Explosia still sold the powder in Europe under another name. When Shooters World brought it here tjey had to give it another name. But, it is old formula Accurate #2, from way ba c k.
 
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