Explosion in Beruit

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  1. 9outof10mms

    9outof10mms Purveyor of Professional Enginerding Supporting Member

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    I seriously would have shat myself thinking that was a nuke...until I realized I wasn't instantly vaporized. But damn it had the look for a few seconds.
     
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    rantingredneck ....glutton for punishment..... Staff Member Benefactor Charter Life Member

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    Article I read earlier said may have been caused by a welder at the site. Accident not foul play. Welder started fire, fire made Ammonium Nitrate go boom.
     
  3. Millie

    Millie Get on with your life!!! Supporting Member

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    I love fire and big booms, but I never got to make any, you pyros!! I feel cheated!

    I did try to burn a bathroom down when I was about 10, though....
     
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  4. GeorgeBush

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    Its always the welder. That submarine fire a few years ago, that aircraft carrier, and now a borderline nuclear explosion.
     
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    rantingredneck ....glutton for punishment..... Staff Member Benefactor Charter Life Member

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    I am very careful what, where, and how I weld (or grind for that matter). I don't wanna burn my house or shop down.

    Years ago on a hot August day in the middle of a drought my neighbor burned all of his yard and part of his shop using an angle grinder.

    Sparks and tinder is all it takes...
     
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  6. GeorgeBush

    GeorgeBush Member Supporting Member

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    Yep. A garage not far from me burned down a few months ago. Sparks and rags-
     
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    People like to cuss government agencies but since OSHA’s inception our rate of deadly explosions has become a small number number. Same thing happened here back in 1947 at Galveston Bay.
     
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  8. NCFubar

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    Here’s a satellite before and after the explosion ...

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    ... the crater is huge but then I started looking that the metal building warehouses ... or should I say lack there of. That blast ripped up the sheet metal buildings like beer cans what I’d guess up to maybe a 1/2 mile away ... and other structures messed up for over a mile ... based on the “70m radius” indicated in the photo.
     
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    We had bought new ramps for our hazardous waste and flammable storage building at the site @Bull Durham and I used to work at. They had someone come weld them on to the building so they didn't get stolen like the ramps that were being replaced. The welder showed up and started working without telling anyone, or if he did no one let anyone else know. We had a drum of waste inside the building at the time that we found out was off gassing hydrogen and methane. Besides that there were several hundred gallons of flammable waste and virgin methanol drums in the building. That guy was lucky. It wouldn't have been anywhere near as bad as this explosion, but people just don't think.
     
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    Pink_Vapor “Not as funny as he thinks he is”- wife Supporting Member

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    The Con-Agra Slim Jim plant in Garner explosion was, if'n I recall properly, sparked from a welder installing 3" natural gas line and someone opened the valve.
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    https://apnews.com/4475998de078a93bbe91b7ac9d43ada2
    "The investigation is focusing on how 2,750 tons of ammonium nitrate, a highly explosive chemical used in fertilizers, came to be stored at the facility for six years, and why nothing was done about it."
    "The blast tore out a crater 200 meters (yards) across that filled with seawater"
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    From what I've seen and read, an Iranian vessel was seized that contained "an illegal cargo of fireworks and ammonium nitrate" in 2014. Cargo was stored since then.

    In a couple of the videos you can see and hear fireworks going off as the "raging fire" is burning. Then the big explosion happens. So if a welder caused this, they lit the fireworks first.
     
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    Then I am nobody! :D
     
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    This ain't true (and Mad Dog is a d**k!), but I still chuckled. Oorah!

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    Well I ain't no rocket scientist, but I thought that ammonium nitrate had to be mixed with fuel oil to go boom. So where did that come from. Or will it go boom all by itself?
     
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    Ammonium nitrate can cause an explosion without another fuel source, but only in very specific circumstances including a sustained source of high heat.
    I do wonder why the blast wasn’t more red, the decomp should have created a lot of nitrogen dioxide, a red gas, and the only red gas I saw was prior to the big explosion.
     
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    THIS ^87th! This is WHY there is LOTO!!
     
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    Crazy Carl seriously? Life Member

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    That'd never work over there. Most Arabs are both arrogant & willfully ignorant beyond all reason. They'd either refuse to do it at all, or just ignore it & do whatever they hell they intended to anyway. One of the most dishonest & morally bankrupt cultures I have ever encountered.
     
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    You have no idea. :D
     
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    Who ever built that silo needs a trophy or ribbon or something. That mother trucker held strong.
     
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    think that where they kept the Allah snack bar
     
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    I wonder if there were still fireworks stored there if they were the catalyst.
     
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    Seriously. I would have bet the farm the silo was a contributor to the explosion. But there it sits. Mocking physics and explosives alike.
     
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    Don’t forget this is a seaport and the ammonium nitrate had supposedly been there 5 plus years so what had the heat, moisture and other “stuff” stored in there gone thru? Also where did this supposed Iranian ammonium nitrate come from? After McVeigh and 9/11 US fertilizer grade ammonium nitrate started to have an addictive to lessen sympathetic detonation chances ... I’m guessing the source of the supposed Iranian ammonium nitrate didn’t care as much.
     
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    Silo standing but imploded on west side
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    Reporter to Jesse Jackson:
    Mr. Jackson, what do You think about Beruit?
    Jesse Jackson to reporter:
    Best baseball player there ever wuz!

    Reporter: Wellll Mr Jackson, how about Red China?
    Jackson: Looks fine on a white table cloth!
     
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    Several square blocks around it were essentially vaporized, it was about three kiloton yield.
     
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    Often the initial grain elevator explosion may be relatively minor, but stirs up any dust that has been allowed to collect on the structure, creating a larger dust cloud. The secondary explosion is the big one.
     
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    ...minus the thermal effects and blinding light. Yes.
     
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    I had read something similar, a large quantity under sustained temps. I think it melts and encapsulates itself or something like that.

    Key here is non-US. I believe it was actually on it's way to a munitions plant to make commercial explosives. So, they wouldn't want any suppressants.

    Believed to be an image of the ammonium nitrate in warehouse #12 from a prior date...
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    Fire fighters attempting to open #12 before the blast. This was found on a phone of someone who did not survive.
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    I have to wonder, was there anyone on the east side of the silo and did they survive?
    They would have been shielded from the blast, no?

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    Does anyone believe the story about the Russian fertilizer abandoned there? Seriously? There was a big warehouse right on the port where ships docked and it sat there full of abandoned fertilizer for 5+ YEARS? Are you kidding me? If nothing else, somebody would have stolen the fertilizer long ago.

    Who doesn’t think it was a Hezbollah ammo, bomb, and/or rocket factory?
     
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    Maybe we should drop something for a betyer comparison?
     
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    Shocking new images show US complicity:

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