Garmin Xero C1 Chronograph................

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New Garmin Radar Unit, doppler radar for chronograph…………..


This thing is INCREDIBLE to say the least…….. I have been using Labradar since they hit the market, and I have been mostly happy, sometimes not, aggravated with it, and love it at the same time…….. The LabRadar has a hard time with some bullets, especially 224 caliber. It has a hard time not placed 100% correct, it has a hard time with muzzle brakes, longer barrels, shorter barrels, and just in general, it can be a problem sometimes. Most big bore stuff it works fine, but drop caliber and it can be iffy………….


So, this Garmin is TINY………I mean, tiny………

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I started testing with 223 and must have shot about 50 rounds total, the Garmin never missed a round, no matter where I set it, and I tried to set it in about 4-5 different spots, and even far back to the action and not forward, as long as it was pointed sort of at the target, it never missed a shot not once….. and I did not take careful aim to get it pointed, I just set it down and turned it to the target……….. It was also DEAD NUTS on with the LabRadar and the PACT Chronograph, well the PACT is always a little less since it is 18 feet in front the muzzle, but it matches up with what it is supposed to do….

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And then lots of times with the 223 this is what you get with LabRadar…………. But notice the Garmin in front the LabRadar on the same shot……
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Ok it has proven itself with 223……. How about a real Gun……

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I shot 4 rounds that I had on the range…….. 550 gr CEB Solids……….The Garmin never missed a shot, even watching bounce around after each shot… HEH HEH.

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After this I got the 308 Winchester out, fired 5-6 rounds of 100 Raptors, Garmin never missed a shot…………..


Now, one thing, I don’t think it measures down range velocities, like catching at the muzzle, and then at 25 or 50 yards. If it does, I have not figured it out yet. I did take it down range and set it at 5 yards pointed at the target, but it did not pick it up…. maybe has to be closer to the shot to activate I think…… But, have not figured out if it does or not pickup down range. I suspect not. Is that a big deal? Not really, unless we are testing impact velocities for bullet testing, it really does not come up here, as for BC, I could give a rats ass about that anyway, I don’t shoot past where I can see, and that ain’t too far………. LOL


It seems 100% reliable so far, all the 223, 308 and 500 MDM I fired it picked up every shot. Gives all the data that I record without issue. I am still learning, but have most things figured out. Great thing was when I figured out how to turn the black screen to a white screen, I could see much better with white background and black letters……

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Its easy, simple to use, 100% reliable, it is right on the mark with other velocities from PACT and LabRadar……. damn sight more simple to setup than either………….So I am ALL IN…… I was going to go order another one for my 50 yard bench….. But then I think WHY? Why would I do that? I can simply take the one from 25 back to 50 yards, its not like its a bitch to sight in or work with, and it don’t weight much to boot……. So I decided to work with one and see how it goes…
Maybe later get another for BACKUP….

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RETIRED and put on the Shelf with other RETIRED pieces of equipment, as you see……………


The next step will be to remove the PACT from its current position, look how much more room on top of my bench I am going to have……….

LabRadar, all 3 PACT, Magneto, and anything else I had to measure velocity is O B S O L E T E and Retired on the shelf………


I tried it at 50 yards, 100% with 223………… Handgun? Tried it at 10 yards with Kimber 1911 both 115 gr Subsonic at 977 fps and 90 Lehigh at 1450 fps………. 100%, never missed a shot……… So I can just move this little thing anywhere, any bench, zero issues, rifle, small rifle, handgun, big bore rifle, don’t matter 100%………
 
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$540 shipped free 2nd day, see my Hot Deals post. Login to their site to get the promotion.
You can use it with your phone, tablet or older phone with their Shotview app.
 
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@Michael458 do you use an external trigger for the Labradar or just the unit itself? I've had similar experience as yours just using the Labradar, especially with .223 .This Garmin is tempting, but I've got enough invested in the Labradar that I'm not ready to give up on it yet. I did notice they finally updated the app so it works with a current smartphone.
 
Button Pusher said:
$540 shipped free 2nd day, see my Hot Deals post. Login to their site to get the promotion.
You can use it with your phone, tablet or older phone with their Shotview app.
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I did that deal from Botach. ended up being 577 after tax.

I finally got to play around with mine and it picked up every round of CCI quiet I shot. I stuck mine on a camera tripod I had laying around. Worked great
 
Think I am going to wait for the Labradar LX to be out in the wild for a bit before I decide and buy one of these.
 
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@Michael458 do you use an external trigger for the Labradar or just the unit itself?
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No, just the unit itself............ When they first came out I actually bought 2 LabRadars. One for the 50 yard bench and one for the 25 yard bench. I gave the 50 yard bench unit to my friend Wes Chapman at Accurate Innovations. While the LabRadar was a incredible leap ahead in doing load data, pressure data and such, it became frustrating at times when I would miss velocities. That is why I had to back up with the PACT Chronograph.

The LabRadar does give downrange velocities, which the Garmin does not. When doing Terminal Tests I like having actual impact velocity, while not 100% needed, it is nice to have. On the other hand, we are not doing a lot of terminals these days anyway, so really not that big of a deal. And if we do, I can put the LabRadar back in service if needed.

I tried the Garmin with 22 LR at 50 yards and it never missed a shot out of 8 strings of 5 each with different ammo.

I am very impressed with the unit........
 
I have been on the range this morning doing some 223 data and work, and have shot about a dozen strings with two different guns, zero issues, and has not missed a shot.
This thing gets a AAA +++ in my book so far.......
Retired from use, LabRadar, Magneto (did not take long to retire it) you see two PACT Chrono in this photo, but when the photo was taken, there was one on the bench, now there are 3 PACT in the retired corner.......... Several screens have also been put off to the side............

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All in favor of this little Garmin.............

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I love mine. BTW, the battery lasts for ever- I can do several range sessions without recharging.

The reason I'm going to keep my old chrono (Caldwell) is to estimate BC for rounds where it isn't published. I know I could probably do it by bullet drop, but supposedly the best way is to have a 'start/end' speed which a second chrono would do.
 
I have used the Garmin a couple times. Unless I am missing a quick step, starting a new session is a pain compared to Labradar. LR would keep all your selections and just start a new session. Garmin has you you going all back through the setup each time. Anyone have a shortcut?
 
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