Getting home

Getting home

  • Keep a Get Home bag

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Flashpoint

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So given the EMP/Solar flare scenario, do you think you could make it home in one day? Even if you plan on eventually bugging out, chances are you have to get home first. Living out in the country like I do is a two edged sword. Even though it is a good place to ride out a SHTF event I will typically be at least two days walk if not more away from home through populated choke points while at work or shopping. I'm wondering just how popular get home bags are rather than bug out bags among us country livin folks.
 
If I'm at work and something happens major, I'm 30 miles from home and it's major highways so it will take me a few days to get home. A get home bag is a must for me in this scenario.
 
I may have hit the wrong button. I meant to vote for GHB. I use mine all the time for non-emergenices.
 
For me, it completely depends on where I'm at when the fecal matter hits the revolving air-mover. Generally, I work within my home county. Should everything stop working, I've got a 15-20 mile walk home at most (and likely shorter) I feel confident that I could make it home in a day if it were to happen when I'm having a normal work day. Should I be at the office? I'm 5 miles from home. I'd be back in 2 hours walking at a comfortable pace.

Now, if I'm on a fire dispatch, I'm looking at 150 miles across most of the state. Odds not so good, and navigating home could be an issue, since I'd be unfamiliar with the territory aside from a few road maps, and perhaps a topo.

Because I work for .gov, I'm limited in what sort of preps I can carry in my assigned truck. Firearms are generally a no-no, but any other sort of prep gear is usually good to go.

I've been trying to get more adamant about carrying my bugout bag in my car when I travel far from home. While I was putting the thing together, it typically lived in my home office, but its nearing completion now, and is currently a bag I could live out of, even if it's still missing a few things. I also have my CCW, another pistol in my bag, and anytime I'm going more than 50 miles from home, I typically put an AR pistol in my car's trunk as well.

My home location is an interesting one. I'm in a rural area that's close to civilization. I live between Mebane and Hillsborough, and I'm within walking distance of I-85.
 
from work, Im 12 miles, I have a GHB, a handgun, a rifle,pair of walking boots, a hammock and food. I would probably stop and sleep for the night about halfway so I could pick my path carefully. If I had to leave work very early in the morning I could do it in one day
 
When I used to commute to Floyd, VA (1:45 each way) everyday I kept an emergency bag in the car
It had snacks, h2o, emergency blanket, extra socks and a jacket just in case I got stuck in the snow or had to spend the night in my car. I never thought about having to hoof it home. I commute 35 miles each way now, guess I better restructure the bag.
 
GHB.

I'm 17ish miles from home at work. I've got a GHB, and these day's I've usually got a mountain bike chained to the back of my car, so I can be home in a couple hours on the greenway paths without even having to walk/ride on the roads.
 
I generally keep a get home bag, butI cleaned out my car recently. I need to restock it for winter. I work about sixty miles from home and would have a few days walk along populated highways.

Another thing about a GHB is that it would serve you well if you simply get stuck, say for example at work or in a snowstorm along the road.
 
My family's vehicles all have a get home bag in them. They have water, food, plastic sheet and blanket along with a knife and some first aid gear.

Firearms are not included because we view them as EDC.

In your scenario, my wife could no problem, me would depend on where I was but probably. My daughter is a probably not.
 
Ok, now the question is does everybody do some kind of physical training so you can carry that bag for 10, 20 or 30 miles and still be able to function defensively? I've been doing some basic rucking with a pack loaded with weights, and you definitely work different muscles and body parts than you do in other workouts. I need to add some hills into this training too since flat ground is far easier. Plus socks and footwear matter. If you are planning a 2 day 30 mile trek or so you better be sure you can make it, or you might want to consider hunkering down where you are. Day 2 with blistered and bleeding feet and no stamina may not end well. And make sure you have enough calories in that bag. Walking with 50 lbs or so on your bag all day will take some fuel.
 
One of the best ways to train like this is simple woods bumming. Strap on your pack and set off in the woods to explore.
It will keep your interest and be much more enjoyable than simply rucking on the road.

Also, consider a live training event where you actually do it and attempt to either stay hidden while getting home or just use the stuff in your bag or whatever.
Reality is much different than perception in this sort of stuff.

A night in the open with just you and your bag will find holes that no amount of brain straining will uncover.
 
Im 14 miles from work to home.

I keep a GHB in the car. I look at it more as an emergency bag, not just getting home, but if car breaks down etc.
ALWAYS have SOMETHING in your car that could help you in a bad situation.
Rotate things in and out depending on the weather and where youre going etc

Probably need to do a GHB/BOB thread on here with pics and lists of what we all have.
 
8 miles from work. I keep a few things in my briefcase, which is soft-sided and came from REI years ago. I can leave the work laptop and other unneeded crap, and get home walking with that bag if necessary.
 
For those of you with bigger vehicles, and longer commutes: Have any of you considered a folding bicycle in the trunk? I noticed a couple of them in the bike shop this afternoon that were freakishly small when folded.
 
FlatFender;n5566 said:
For those of you with bigger vehicles, and longer commutes: Have any of you considered a folding bicycle in the trunk? I noticed a couple of them in the bike shop this afternoon that were freakishly small when folded.

they certainly came in handy during the malayan campaign
 
Diablos said:
FlatFender;n5566 said:
For those of you with bigger vehicles, and longer commutes: Have any of you considered a folding bicycle in the trunk? I noticed a couple of them in the bike shop this afternoon that were freakishly small when folded.

they certainly came in handy during the malayan campaign
wut?
 
9 miles work to home when I'm at the office. My EDC stays with me, and I grab the rifle out of my vehicle. It won't be a direct path down the road, so figure 6 hours to get home assuming minimal/no time dealing with the hoolibobs.

I occasionally work at sites that prevent carrying a firearm. Those sites are at least 2 hours away by car and present an entirely different set of obstacles to overcome.
 
Diablos said:
FlatFender;n5566 said:
For those of you with bigger vehicles, and longer commutes: Have any of you considered a folding bicycle in the trunk? I noticed a couple of them in the bike shop this afternoon that were freakishly small when folded.

they certainly came in handy during the malayan campaign
check out the vid
 
I work 20 miles from home.

I've trekked further in a day with a lot of weight on my back, in far tougher terrain.

As long as everyone doesn't turn violent immediately I'll be fine, and sleeping in my bed.
 
Lawless;n3829 said:
One of the best ways to train like this is simple woods bumming. Strap on your pack and set off in the woods to explore.
It will keep your interest and be much more enjoyable than simply rucking on the road.

Also, consider a live training event where you actually do it and attempt to either stay hidden while getting home or just use the stuff in your bag or whatever.
Reality is much different than perception in this sort of stuff.

A night in the open with just you and your bag will find holes that no amount of brain straining will uncover.


I remember doing this for fun, for days on end. Man, I miss simple living.
 
premise;n6692 said:
I meant more from a legality standpoint. Would it be legal to store, say, a disassemble AR in a tennis bag?

You can keep a long gun in a car unloaded. Just keep mags in close proximity.
 
Lawless;n6882 said:
You can keep a long gun in a car unloaded. Just keep mags in close proximity.

Thanks. I usually just keep them sitting on the front seat loaded, but that obviously doesn't address concealing them when needed.
 
Unfortunately, I work "on the road" and am normally hundreds, if not thousands, of miles from my preparations. It's a quandary I've not seriously considered how to handle.

I have been meaning to assemble a GHB for the vehicles for local travel or when I'm working out of the office in Raleigh. I will say that I have researched and mapped a railroad route to get me home from the big city. I need to do a dry-run on the railroad route (in small sections) one of these days though.
 
I feel everything I need is in the toolbox on my truck, but it's not planned or designated as such. I used to camp and off-road a lot and just leave a lot of useful stuff in there. I guess I really don't have a get home bag, just too lazy to unload a lot of stuff that some may consider survival gear.
 
LONG GUNS

The question of long guns in the car brings up a good point and some other things to consider, like what kind of a long gun gun is appropriate for getting you home on foot. One thing to consider is do you want to be Billy Badass open carrying an AR, etc. vs concealing a broken down rifle that has to be assembled vs concealing some sort of a a long gun that can be concealed ready to fire. I choose the later because #1 I want to look unprepared and not carrying much if anything of value, and #2 if I need a rifle I will most likely need it quickly. I think carrying an AR, etc. openly invites someone to snipe you in the back for that high value item and whatever else you are probably carrying.

I used to keep a Sub2000 cable locked under my passenger seat. I had worked out how to conceal it on my person while folded using a single point sling under an unbuttoned shirt. Although not technically ready to fire it took me only 3 seconds to unfold it and put rounds on target. There are few long guns that fit that bill, especially while being lightweight which is of high importance in this scenario. Bullpups are typically heavy, AKs with folding stocks are often not short enough. I don't have a Sub2K anymore but my latest acquisition is a CMR-30 that I believe I can carry concealed, I just haven't worked out the details yet. I also have an AR pistol in 9mm but it is 3-4 times heavier than the CMR.

A concealable long gun does not take the place of your sidearm. You can't deploy a concealed long arm nearly as fast as you can a handgun and I expect most threats are going to be up close and immediate. I see a long arm being useful if one or a group pf people take notice of you and begin to flank/intercept you, then you can engage at a distance (warning shots optional) but you might not have much time to assemble anything.


ROUTE STRATEGY

On any typical work day I will usually be days from home. If in Raleigh it could take a week. if in Greensboro maybe a little less. Coming from Raleigh the big choke points will be Jordan Lake and the Haw river. I could bypass the lake but it would be adding 20 miles or so.

How to travel? Stay on the road, overland paralleling the road, or just completely cross country? Staying on the road invites all the dangers one would think, hostiles, ambushes, etc. The alternative however means crossing private property, and under the circumstances that could be even more dangerous. I wouldn't expect to be able to do it undetected, primarily because of dogs. It will also be much slower due to attempting to remain stealthy. Do you really want to give a home/property owner a reason to take you out, especially out in the woods where ShootShovelShutup is likely? Except for bypassing obvious choke points/ambushes, at this point I'm considering staying on the road, which is one of the reasons I'm putting a lot of consideration into how I appear to others.

I figure at some point after the first 24 hours even the most brain dead sheep will start to realize the implications of the event and begin to turn desperate. When the event itself happens it will be pretty obvious to some of us immediately however, and my plan is to approach nearby homes and buy/barter, etc. for a bicycle. After a day or two that will be next to impossible, so I'll be trying to get one while the getting is good. For this reason it would be a good thing to have something of value allocated to that purpose, and initially cash would probably be the best thing. Unfortunately after a day or two just being on a bike (something everyone on the road will want) could get me shot as well. Hopefully I will have biked home before then.

That's it for now, please add your own strategies for making it home.
 
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All the SHTF discussions I can recall are centered on one person traveling alone. Traveling alone may be best, or required, due to certain, specific circumstances, but based on the idea of safety in numbers, it shouldn't be our only consideration.

One item that may be worth considering is pre-arranging travel plans with others that would be traveling roughly the same route as you. That discussion would probably include what would constitute the 'balloon going up,' how to make and maintain contact, meeting locations (including alternates), routes, means of transport, etc.

This thought can also be taken a step further for those that live more than a day away from where they are when the SHTF. Build relationships with people that live near your intended route home. Trusted friends can offer a safe house, of sorts, and maybe a chance to replenish needed supplies or receive medical attention.

When I say traveling with others, I'm thinking of 2-5 people max. Large enough to provide enhanced security, but not large enough to look like a gang or attract unwanted attention.
 
premise said:
I meant more from a legality standpoint. Would it be legal to store, say, a disassemble AR in a tennis bag?
Just messin... This is one of the primary reasons I will always keep an AR pistol. I can have it loaded and concealed legally in the majority of states I have reason to visit/drive through.
 
I think for bugging out organizing with others makes sense because you would be starting from known locations, but no one knows where they are going to be for the initial journey home. Agreed definitely better to travel in small groups than alone. It could be worth it to band together with a stranger or two headed your way, but that is obviously highly risky and would have to be approached with extreme caution!

I like the idea of establishing safe houses, etc. along the way. I think someone started a map at CSF or CSC once for people to post their locations. We could do something similar focused on helping preppers along their way possibly. I've also thought of creating a stash or two of food/water/ammo, etc. on vacant public or private lands along likely routes I would be taking.
 
I don't plan to post travel plans or cache locations on anything connected to the net. Too much chance for that to be compromised or simply unavailable when we need it most.

FTF conversations with trusted friends (or to make new, trusted friends) with some handwritten notes might be better.
 
trcubed;n9546 said:
I don't plan to post travel plans or cache locations on anything connected to the net. Too much chance for that to be compromised or simply unavailable when we need it most.

FTF conversations with trusted friends (or to make new, trusted friends) with some handwritten notes might be better.

Yeah, maps of my stuff on the net has bad idea written all over it... I can't even really delete my PMs from being Canadian hands...
 
I was thinking along the lines of a map of our locations, not stuff, if everyone with access to said map had agreed specifically to help each other out with temporary refuge and/or sustenance to help them on their way only. Limits of duration and extent of the sustenance if any would all be agreed on beforehand. It would be an obligation, and nothing to be taken lightly. You may be right anything along these lines may be best kept to small groups, but I just think it would be awesome if it could be maybe a statewide thing, a clan of people "sworn" to help each other (with hard limits) because everyone is not always going to have what they hoped to have with them or be where they hoped they would be.

But yeah, it would be impossible to vet everyone fully, and there would be those that join just to find out where the people with preps are.
 
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Flashpoint;n12892 said:
I was thinking along the lines of a map of our locations, not stuff, if everyone with access to said map had agreed specifically to help each other out with temporary refuge and/or sustenance to help them on their way only. Limits of duration and extent of the sustenance if any would all be agreed on beforehand. It would be an obligation, and nothing to be taken lightly. You may be right anything along these lines may be best kept to small groups, but I just think it would be awesome if it could be maybe a statewide thing, a clan of people "sworn" to help each other (with hard limits) because everyone is not always going to have what they hoped to have with them or be where they hoped they would be.

Sounds great in theory, but like communism it wouldn't work in the real world. What you'd have is a list of where people with guns and supplies live and are trying to get to. All you have to do is get there 1st... and it's on the interwebs for anyone to figure out...
 
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