Gov Pooper-Cooper Vetoed SB41 to Repeal PPP - Will the veto be overridden?

Will Cooper’s veto be overridden?

  • Yes

    Votes: 29 25.0%

  • No

    Votes: 47 40.5%

  • I like turtles

    Votes: 40 34.5%
  • Total voters
    116
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Gun rights victory at NC General Assembly - Mar 15

perhaps everyone has already seen this and/or perhaps it will be posted here soon, but i'm very happy about it and thought i'd post. now let's hope & pray they can override "Massah" Cooper's veto! 🙏🏼 Grass Roots North Carolina won a major legislative victory today, as Senate Bill 41 –...
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Over-riding Governor Roy Cooper’s Veto


Today, Governor Roy Cooper vetoed Senate Bill 41, to repeal our Jim Crow-era pistol purchase permit law and to facilitate parishioners in defending churches against violent sociopaths.

Said GRNC president Paul Valone:

“As we predicted, anti-freedom Governor Roy Cooper wasted no time attacking the rights of gun owners. Worse, he attacked the ability of church-goers to protect themselves from attacks on religious institutions that are becoming all too common.

“It will be with great pleasure that GRNC will work to over-ride his veto of SB 41. Given that the bill passed by veto-proof supermajorities in both chambers of the legislature, we have every confidence that we will deliver defeat to his doorstep.”
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R’s only need 1 D to join them to override Cooper’s veto, assuming all R’s are present and vote to override. Do you think it’ll happen?
 
I’d be extremely shocked.

They could have passed this and signed it when they had control of all 3 branches. Instead they made it so gays couldn’t get married.

This is nothing but a vote for us next time show. They knew he would veto it and they know they won’t override it. Because they don’t actually want it to pass.

I swear I am so sick of republicans I want to spit.
 
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"My fellow constituents...we did everything we could, as you saw, we passed it. But those darned democrats foiled us again! So show up at the polls next time and vote for me and we will certainly get it then!"

At this point, I am near to voting for democrats just so we can move this whole shindig along. This swirling down the drain is getting might tiring.
 
B00ger said:
"My fellow constituents...we did everything we could, as you saw, we passed it. But those darned democrats foiled us again! So show up at the polls next time and vote for me and we will certainly get it then!"

At this point, I am near to voting for democrats just so we can move this whole shindig along. This swirling down the drain is getting might tiring.
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I voted for trump just because I wanted to see what would happen.

They both the republican’ts and the dems did pretty much what I thought they would.

What I didn’t expect was for the silent majority to just pretty much take it. I fully expected rioters to get mowed down and French Revolution style barricades to be erected in the streets.

Sigh. Naked in my flack jacket standing in my front yard again…..all alone.
 
Chdamn said:
I voted for trump just because I wanted to see what would happen.

They both the republican’ts and the dems did pretty much what I thought they would.

What I didn’t expect was for the silent majority to just pretty much take it. I fully expected rioters to get mowed down and French Revolution style barricades to be erected in the streets.

Sigh. Naked in my flack jacket standing in my front yard again…..all alone.
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You werent alone...there wuz two of us...
 
Just in case anyone was wondering (which they aren’t I’m sure) but when I chaired the Greensboro arm of the Associated Builders and Contractors PAC, I laid into Phil Berger at an association dinner right after he was made the senate pro temp over exactly this.

I told him that I was pretty pissed at how he and his cronies had convinced a lot of us to vote for them with the promise they would roll back the clock for smaller government and all they had done was define who could get married.

I went on to tell him I wouldn’t forget it and I would not let others forget that they were nothing but an obstacle to the state moving right unless it was things that required control like marriage.

The state president of our organization stepped in at that moment and basically blocked me out while the senator made for the door.
 
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Chdamn said:
The state president of our organization stepped in at that moment and basically blocked me out while the senator made for the door.
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It appears there’s as much of a “deep state” at the state level, as there is at the national level.
 
… just how it was designed to go … the Sheriff’s Ass supposedly backed it and it passed both chambers with some Dums supporting it … all FULL WELL KNOWING King Roy would veto it … but they “gave it a try”. The one problem is while most can say “we tried” some (most likely Dummicrats) will have to change their votes to toe the party’s line thus the numbers in each chamber to override the Veto will fall short.
 
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Button Pusher said:
Cooper has made more vetos then any other NC Governor.
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He wouldn’t have to if we’d just vote him out.

BTW, it could be worse. In some states the governor has until the end of session, or later, to decide to veto. By them everyone has gone home, so no chance of an override.
 
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Chdamn said:
I told him that I was pretty pissed at how he and his cronies had convinced a lot of us to vote for them with the promise they would roll back the clock for smaller government and all they had done was define who could get married.
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I’m pretty sure you can find posts I’ve made about how when it comes to things that really matter, we get bathroom bills, gay marriage, a tax cut for the Uber wealthy, and a bunch of new fees for the lay person. Thank you, repug majority.
 
Business as usual, grandstanding on both sides. Politicians have learned that they can continually mislead without consequence. We seem to have both short memories and a lack of options when it comes to electing those who would actually represent their constituents.
 
Artg56 said:
Business as usual, grandstanding on both sides. Politicians have learned that they can continually mislead without consequence. We seem to have both short memories and a lack of options when it comes to electing those who would actually represent their constituents.
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That’s because the second you mention 3rd party or voting for someone other than who the establishment tells you to vote for in the primaries you’re bombarded with “you might as well vote democrat”, “this election is to important not to vote lesser of two evils”, “candidate X can’t possibly win in a general election”. The Dems play the same game so Republicans shouldn’t feel special.
 
DCGallim said:
That’s because the second you mention 3rd party or voting for someone other than who the establishment tells you to vote for in the primaries you’re bombarded with “you might as well vote democrat”, “this election is to important not to vote lesser of two evils”, “candidate X can’t possibly win in a general election”. The Dems play the same game so Republicans shouldn’t feel special.
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I do not like the accuracy of this statement.
 
DCGallim said:
That’s because the second you mention 3rd party or voting for someone other than who the establishment tells you to vote for in the primaries you’re bombarded with “you might as well vote democrat”, “this election is to important not to vote lesser of two evils”, “candidate X can’t possibly win in a general election”. The Dems play the same game so Republicans shouldn’t feel special.
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This is true, but it’s just a symptom. The problem is that we have a short attention span and are uncommitted. If we were committed and looked out past the next election we’d build a coalition of supporters for a broad range of folks with conservative views and get a new party engaged far before the primaries. Once we’re in the election cycle there is little to be gained by voting for a candidate that can’t win IMO.
 
GymB said:
This is true, but it’s just a symptom. The problem is that we have a short attention span and are uncommitted. If we were committed and looked out past the next election we’d build a coalition of supporters for a broad range of folks with conservative views and get a new party engaged far before the primaries. Once we’re in the election cycle there is little to be gained by voting for a candidate that can’t win IMO.
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The minute that is attempted the the monied interests of the machine fund the wolves in sheep’s clothing to undermine the movement. It’s a hard thing achieve.
 
CZfool68 said:
The minute that is attempted the the monied interests of the machine fund the wolves in sheep’s clothing to undermine the movement. It’s a hard thing achieve.
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Certainly not harder than a shooting war and the aftermath…but we’ll talk about and prep for that all day long.
 
GymB said:
Certainly not harder than a shooting war and the aftermath…but we’ll talk about and prep for that all day long.
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Well some of us are action oriented and some are planners. Different strokes for different folks I guess. Plus more exciting to envision John Wick mowing down the opposition than it is some guy in a suit planning press conferences and speeches.
 
GymB said:
Certainly not harder than a shooting war and the aftermath…but we’ll talk about and prep for that all day long.
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It wouldn’t even require a war. Some well placed political violence would be far more effective at correcting some of the problems than any amount of voting.
 
CZfool68 said:
Well some of us are action oriented and some are planners. Different strokes for different folks I guess. Plus more exciting to envision John Wick mowing down the opposition than it is some guy in a suit planning press conferences and speeches.
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noway2 said:
It wouldn’t even require a war. Some well placed political violence would be far more effective at correcting some of the problems than any amount of voting.
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If we can’t get rid of Wayne, is there any hope for bigger change?
 
DCGallim said:
That’s because the second you mention 3rd party or voting for someone other than who the establishment tells you to vote for in the primaries you’re bombarded with “you might as well vote democrat”, “this election is to important not to vote lesser of two evils”, “candidate X can’t possibly win in a general election”. The Dems play the same game so Republicans shouldn’t feel special.
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The problem with the multi-party system is the Commie Coalitions are willing to work together.

The other problem is the Republic model works great when politicians are simply held accountable to be tossed off the Tarpeian Rock.
 
We had Richard Burr for eighteen years, who never did anything for us nor against us, as he spent most of his term on the phone to his stockbroker cashing in on insider information. And the horror of Traitor Tillis, co-author of the POS they shoved at us last year, who recently sent me an email touting that he was such a strong 2A supporter that he sponsored the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act. As if we were too stupid to know it won't go anywhere, or that we would ever forgive him for making us all afraid of getting red flagged by anyone that disagrees with us on any topic.

But it's probably wrong to say "all Republicans" (though it isn't wrong to say "all Democrats" as they are all race-baiting gun-grabbing baby-killing evil monsters). We had enough votes to kill the PPP when McCrory was Governor but he threatened to veto a very large package of good gun bills if PPP repeal was in it. So the R's took that out so that the several dozen other very good changes could become law. So it wasn't "Republicans", it was one quasi-Republican. Who ran for Senate last year and got beat 3:1 by a gun store owner in the primaries. Karma.
 
Chdamn said:
I don’t even bother voting anymore. After what I saw transpiring when I was active in a PAC, I know the system is just too corrupt for any real change to take place.
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you and @wrhinier he has a hell of a story to tell in this regard.

Voting may carry an impact at the local level, but that’s about it anymore.
 
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Chdamn said:
I voted for trump just because I wanted to see what would happen.

They both the republican’ts and the dems did pretty much what I thought they would.

What I didn’t expect was for the silent majority to just pretty much take it. I fully expected rioters to get mowed down and French Revolution style barricades to be erected in the streets.

Sigh. Naked in my flack jacket standing in my front yard again…..all alone.
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Try pants next time.
 
fieldgrade said:
It appears there’s as much of a “deep state” at the state level, as there is at the national level.
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Oh…it’s all the way down to the local level, as well. Reminds me of a scene from “Young Guns”…

The regulators all ride up to John Chisum’s (James Coburn) ranch and tell him he owes them some money. He tells Doc (Kiefer Southerland) “You’re Billy the Kid, too, you know..and you and you and you…you all are…dirty little Billy bastards.”
 
Chdamn said:
I don’t even bother voting anymore. After what I saw transpiring when I was active in a PAC, I know the system is just too corrupt for any real change to take place.
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Bingo.

I used to catch a lot of grief in here (well deserved, but still) for threatening to leave the country. I actually had plans to do so, and it was out of a deep despair at the very thing you are saying here.

The mentality was that you could not find a "better" place, but you might find a place so backwards and inefficient that they would be preoccupied with survival themselves and thus unable to focus on schlubs like me.... and I don't care about the corruption level in Outer Slobovenia.

Since events have transpired that have made this move highly doubtful, I find that the second best solution is to get rural, and teach myself not to care or be informed here, just like I would be if I were living in some other country.
That has been a process, not an event. I think the path takes one through a fury and despair and anger that is natural when you feel betrayed (I horrified my wife years ago by standing up and cheering and applauding when the aliens blew up DC in the silly silly movie "Judgment Day").

It is easier now. I hate less, mostly because I see the ugliness there in me more clearly, and it makes me more tolerant, as well as less naive about the society. I do vote, if there is a small smattering of respect I have for a candidate, but I expect very little.
 
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