All of my holsters are either IWB or OWB with concealment in mind. What holsters are standard fare for run and gun events? If I give one a try, I’ll be shooting a Rival with an optic.
Dara does have one, thanks.Perhaps Dara Holsters would have something.
Probably nothing, but may as well buy whatever will work best since I won’t every carry it outside of competition unless it’s IWB. The factory holster has bad retention unless you crank it down to where it becomes difficult to draw.What's wrong with a regular owb kydex? The stuff I buy from JM Custom Kydex has retention sufficient to shake the gun in the holster upside down and it stays put.
What's wrong with a regular owb kydex? The stuff I buy from JM Custom Kydex has retention sufficient to shake the gun in the holster upside down and it stays put.
Exactly holsters without an active retention-it’s not a question if it comes out , it’s only a matter of when because it will happen sooner or later with ANY holster that only has “friction” or “passive retention.Simply put, that’s not enough. A RnG event will have you crawling through obstacles, working with your rifle sling, etc. there is a ton of opportunity for something to snatch the gun out of the holster. I have DQ’d several competitors for loaded pistols coming out of the holster.
A holster with retention strap/hood is strongly recommended.
I run DARA holsters, most run Safariland.
Learn something every day, I didn't know what I didn't know for sure. Thanks for the clear explanation.Simply put, that’s not enough. A RnG event will have you crawling through obstacles, working with your rifle sling, etc. there is a ton of opportunity for something to snatch the gun out of the holster. I have DQ’d several competitors for loaded pistols coming out of the holster.
A holster with retention strap/hood is strongly recommended.
I run DARA holsters, most run Safariland.
I'd be curious to see photos of the holster and how the bungee loop is attached. Seems like idea could be adapted to an existing owned kydex holster for $2.Highly suggest a KT Mech and pay the extra $5 for a bungee loop. Super simple, fast to manipulate, and won’t fail. Here’s a pic from the one I wore to a tactical games event that had me upside down, sideways, banging into walls and barriers and thrown all about for 2 straight days with no loss of the gun. Guys running much pricier gear had drops or the gun come partially out when hitting a wall etc. For a run and gun this is likely easy and a no-fail solution.
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One thing to think about is how the retention is disabled. Eg a bungie or something is an extra step in the draw while the ALS or the Centurion hood are thumb activated as part of the draw. I would strongly recommend you avoid anything that is released with pressure from your trigger finger. Maybe you can do it safely but that’s just extra risk of a ND when you’re tired and your brain is mush. I would also be worried about a long elastic piece being caught during a reholster and causing a ND. Again, maybe you could prevent it but just one more thing you could avoid entirely with an equipment choice.
The RTI wheel is the way. Not a fan of the QLS forks.I’m trying a GCode rti wheel with my new safariland holster, it seems to be thinner than the QLS system but I haven’t run a match with it yet.
I lost my hood the first time I used it lolSafariland would be on the short list.
I can’t remember the levels of retention and stuff but I got the one with the hood. You can just choose not to use it and it’s still plenty secure if you’re just walking around.
I also got one that would take an optic even though I don’t use one, just in case I upgrade.
There is also a belt mount you can buy to bring the holster closer to vertical that is nice. I haven’t looked into the QD fork attachments yet.
I have the same questions, so fire away. I started thinking about that earlier today when I saw the Kore 15% off sale, since they have their adjustable 1.75" battle belt. I also follow the Tactical Games on YouTube, and its interesting to the see the differences in opinion. Some guys want everything on their chest to keep the weight off their hips, some want their carrier as smooth as possible because it makes it harder to carry stuff or hurdle walls, but then the stuff on the waist hangs up during crawls, etc.So I hope @Supermatch doesn't mind my adding to his thread, but now that it's been established the need for some type of active retention device is basically a necessity for RnG, what other kit is needed? I've noticed these holsters all have wild looking mounts, nothing like what would go on a "normal" EDC belt. So along with choosing a holster it seems like you also need a belt. That new belt won't take your normal edc mag pouches...on and on...
There’s a particular regular that comes to mind. She did her first 4-5 runs with an old school backpack for mags, water, etc and her pistol (run completely cold) in a cheap milsurp with a flap.So I hope @Supermatch doesn't mind my adding to his thread, but now that it's been established the need for some type of active retention device is basically a necessity for RnG, what other kit is needed? I've noticed these holsters all have wild looking mounts, nothing like what would go on a "normal" EDC belt. So along with choosing a holster it seems like you also need a belt. That new belt won't take your normal edc mag pouches...on and on...
I've been looking at level II holsters online, and pondering chest rigs for rifle mags, yada yada...
Two questions come to mind:
1. How do the thumb-activated retention hoods fare when muddy? Do the mechanisms fail or lock up?
2. How do mag pouches fare for obstacles or crawling? As in, do pistol mags fall out of belt-mounted plastic mag pouches, does mud get into rifle mags in a chest rig when crawling?
Ok, 4 - 5 questions, technically.
Given my "physique" and the thought of running in the Carolina heat, I'm very tempted to just carry some pistol mags on my hip and throw any rifle mags in my USWE hydration pack.So I have a pair of Truspec cargo/tactical pants. The pockets on each leg are sized to hold an AR mag and a pistol mag. I have a trainer's/rigger's belt that can carry my holster, my TQ, two pistol and two AR magazines. I'd need to be increase my tactical girth (get fatter) to carry more. I've never seen the practical use of a chest rig, they always seem to prop a guy up off the ground so he can't get low with a curb in an urban no cover situation...so I don't have one. Also, no armor. I have a sling bag and a backpack, but I'd expect both are going to be a hindrance if I'm also running a slung rifle. It's been years since I've worn any of this stuff, but I definitely remember it making for a rough day lugging around the weight of the rifle and belt all day, and all we did was move through a shoot house or up and down a firing line.
Something else I hadn't thought of.Given my "physique" and the thought of running in the Carolina heat, I'm very tempted to just carry some pistol mags on my hip and throw any rifle mags in my USWE hydration pack.
If I wasn't carrying water, I wouldn't make it from my car to the registration table!Something else I hadn't thought of.
carry a microfiber cloth.Ok, another Q: what about scope covers? Do most carry lens caps or optic covers btw stages, or just growl and squint through the smear?