Illinois passes assault weapons ban, “forces” registration….

Burt Gummer

Burt Gummer

May Have Shorter Meme Posting Times Than U Normies
Staff member
2A Bourbon Hound 2024
2A Bourbon Hound OG
Charter Life Member
Benefactor
Vendor
Supporting Member
Salesman of the Year
Multi-Factor Enabled
Joined
Dec 17, 2016
Messages
21,553
Location
Julian, NC
Rating - 100%
101   0   0
This is just one step in their grand scheme to remove firearms from public hands. It starts with “innocent registration”, absolute bans of certain types, then all. They don’t have to confiscate them, they’ll criminalize possession and make everyone a felon.
 
phideux said:
why can't one of these sheriffs arrest the governor for treason, refusal to uphold his oath of office. I guarantee in his oath of office is the line to uphold the constitution.
Click to expand...
The standoff between the local sheriff and the state police would be worth it... make 'em all reconsider their oaths!
 
The governor is coming out against the sheriffs who won't enforce this, saying that it is the law and by not enforcing it they are breaking the law and will be fired. Some sheriffs are telling him to pound sand.

wgntv.com

Pritzker threatens to fire police for not enforcing Illinois gun ban

(WTVO) — After several Illinois law enforcement agencies said they won’t enforce the new gun ban, Gov. JB Pritzker had a strong response: Comply or hit the road. “As are all law enforcem…
wgntv.com wgntv.com
 
Telling him to pound sand is both the short and long term smart move on their part. Once the law heads up the chain for review and is ruled unconstitutional, the taxpayers will be paying each of those sheriffs millions in wrongful termination suits.
 
Chuckman said:
The governor is coming out against the sheriffs who won't enforce this, saying that it is the law and by not enforcing it they are breaking the law and will be fired. Some sheriffs are telling him to pound sand.

wgntv.com

Pritzker threatens to fire police for not enforcing Illinois gun ban

(WTVO) — After several Illinois law enforcement agencies said they won’t enforce the new gun ban, Gov. JB Pritzker had a strong response: Comply or hit the road. “As are all law enforcem…
wgntv.com wgntv.com
Click to expand...


If they're appointed in that state, I suppose he might be able to do that. If they're elected, I don't think he can.
 
Supermatch said:
Telling him to pound sand is both the short and long term smart move on their part. Once the law heads up the chain for review and is ruled unconstitutional, the taxpayers will be paying each of those sheriffs millions in wrongful termination suits.
Click to expand...
He can't fire 'em. They have been elected in Illinois since 1818. He'll hafta pound sand instead.
 
Last edited:
Chuckman said:
The governor is coming out against the sheriffs who won't enforce this, saying that it is the law and by not enforcing it they are breaking the law and will be fired. Some sheriffs are telling him to pound sand.

wgntv.com

Pritzker threatens to fire police for not enforcing Illinois gun ban

(WTVO) — After several Illinois law enforcement agencies said they won’t enforce the new gun ban, Gov. JB Pritzker had a strong response: Comply or hit the road. “As are all law enforcem…
wgntv.com wgntv.com
Click to expand...

How do you prove they are not enforcing it?

I'll admit I've only really scanned the headlines, and I'm not savvy to everything there is to know about this new state law.
 
Chuckman said:
The governor is coming out against the sheriffs who won't enforce this, saying that it is the law and by not enforcing it they are breaking the law and will be fired. Some sheriffs are telling him to pound sand.

wgntv.com

Pritzker threatens to fire police for not enforcing Illinois gun ban

(WTVO) — After several Illinois law enforcement agencies said they won’t enforce the new gun ban, Gov. JB Pritzker had a strong response: Comply or hit the road. “As are all law enforcem…
wgntv.com wgntv.com
Click to expand...
What’s his position on the White House and DOJ’s failure to enforce laws? 🤔
 
Is this new "LAW" a product of the Legislature or some Gubernatorial edict...If the State Legislature actually passed this "LAW" Illinois is Lost.
If the We The People crowd doesn't throw this entire crowd out at the ballot box, the they got Exactly what the majority wanted.
Throw them out or reap the benefits.......Hellll, it might be like here...we can't get rid of Lindsey...the Rs won't give us a Primary choice.
 
Remember, they are only after "illegal" guns, not the "law-abiding". The unspoken is that they will make them all illegal and you will no longer be "law-abiding".

Chuckman said:
I know people in NY who said the same thing, and I know people in California who may or may not own many things the state has declared illegal.
Click to expand...
I know there were probably 40 felonies when I left NY
 
Pop N Shots said:
I think I saw an article or YT indicating @ 60 counties, and growing, have vowed to NOT enforce the new law.
Click to expand...
Last I saw ALL but 17 counties have Sheriffs who have declared they WILL NOT ENFORCE. The State Police are the ones who are tasked with enforcement of this BS. There may end up being a standoff between Leo's. Interesting, something to keep watching.
 
CL2ALVR said:
Last I saw ALL but 17 counties have Sheriffs who have declared they WILL NOT ENFORCE. The State Police are the ones who are tasked with enforcement of this BS. There may end up being a standoff between Leo's. Interesting, something to keep watching.
Click to expand...
Most of NYs 62 counties passed resolutions against the SAFE Act in 2013. To my knowledge there have not been any "pure" arrests for violations. It is always an add-on charge. They are usually pled away. You still lose your guns, etc. Go to jail for something else but the end result is still the same except you can't appeal the unconstitutional charge that was dismissed or pled away
 
JohnFreeman said:
Sheriffs have a very unique position. They are beholden to nobody but the citizens they serve and have no other "boss" they report to. They're quite autonomous otherwise.
Click to expand...
As I have said before, we need to return to a more colonial style model for law enforcement. An elected sheriff who may deputize among the populace on an as needed basis. Remember the founding fathers were opposed to standing troops and back in those days, the miliary was the govt. law enforcement. Standing, professional (as in career, not performance), tax funded law enforcers always lead to tyranny.
CL2ALVR said:
Last I saw ALL but 17 counties have Sheriffs who have declared they WILL NOT ENFORCE. The State Police are the ones who are tasked with enforcement of this BS. There may end up being a standoff between Leo's. Interesting, something to keep watching.
Click to expand...
A perfect example of how govt. tax funded enforcers become tyrannical. They're answering to the entities that butter their bread.
 
It's interesting that this ("They're answering to the entities that butter their bread.") applies both the JBT's in the Ill State Police (reporting to Governator) and the sheriffs (reporting to citizens)
 
JohnFreeman said:
It's interesting that this ("They're answering to the entities that butter their bread.") applies both the JBT's in the Ill State Police (reporting to Governator) and the sheriffs (reporting to citizens)
Click to expand...
Another interesting thing is that one side is standing up for what's right, while the other is standing up for wrong, yet they're (apparently) doing so regardless.
 
Chicago’s GoodKids MadCity (GKMC), a Black and brown-led youth nonprofit fighting to end violence in communities, responded to the assault weapons ban by stressing that lawmakers should ensure the legislation also applies to police.
Click to expand...

Hey kids, it's a feature not a bug.
 
The way states that enacted bans/registrations deal with legal owners is not by going to their homes for searches. The confiscation or arrest happens if someone is stopped (for whatever or made up reason) and the LEO searches the vehicle and finds a non registered or firearm.
 
12151791 said:
The confiscation or arrest happens if someone is stopped (for whatever or made up reason) and the LEO searches the vehicle and finds a non registered or firearm.
Click to expand...
And one day, they're going to try to search the wrong person and it's going to go very badly for all involved.
 
noway2 said:
And one day, they're going to try to search the wrong person and it's going to go very badly for all involved.
Click to expand...
I don’t think so.
What you say is exactly what happens when they stop some armed criminals today, and it will be the same in the future.
But I don’t think there will be any stops of people whose only crime is owning an unregistered firearm that will result in a shootout. Think about it, would you try to take the life of a LEO and risk yours over an unregistered AR? It’s just not the way most of us generally law abiding and morally responsible people are wired, and moving the goalposts doesn’t really change that.
 
JimB said:
I don’t think so.
What you say is exactly what happens when they stop some armed criminals today, and it will be the same in the future.
But I don’t think there will be any stops of people whose only crime is owning an unregistered firearm that will result in a shootout. Think about it, would you try to take the life of a LEO and risk yours over an unregistered AR? It’s just not the way most of us generally law abiding and morally responsible people are wired, and moving the goalposts doesn’t really change that.
Click to expand...
I think it is more likely than just a normal crime situation depending on how far government has over-reached their authority. Would they try to take the life of an LEO over a speeding ticket? No. Would they try to take the life of an LEO who they believe is an agent of a government that is trying to overthrow the Constitution? Significantly more likely that the speeding ticket.
 
Last edited:
Ferrisfan said:
I think it is more likely than just a normal crime situation depending on how far government has over-reached their authority. would they try to take the life of an LEO over a speeding ticket? No. Would they try to take the life of an LEO who they believe is an agent of a government that is trying to overthrow the Constitution? Significantly more likely that the speeding ticket.
Click to expand...
I would hope that the folks concerned about a government trampling the constitution would act thoughtfully and in a coordinated way, one guy taking shots at a LEO would be counterproductive.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom