Knives, hands and feet!!!

Years back in CQB the most memorable words for me were in a knife fight you will be cut … that’s when I really started believing in the 21 foot rule. As he went on he made another surprising statement he almost would rather be shot by a handgun than attacked by a knife. When I had a chance to ask about his “choice” he explained than a bullet from a handgun has a higher survi rate than a knife attack. Bleeding from knife wounds is actually harder to control than handgun wounds … especially when it’s multiple cuts/stabs. Thinking back to my old VFD days and at wrecks bleeding out took more lives than vehicle fires. Yep, knives make you bleed damn quick so I can sure see the trend the video‘s numbers show.
 
NCFubar said:
Years back in CQB the most memorable words for me were in a knife fight you will be cut … that’s when I really started believing in the 21 foot rule. As he went on he made another surprising statement he almost would rather be shot by a handgun than attacked by a knife. When I had a chance to ask about his “choice” he explained than a bullet from a handgun has a higher survi rate than a knife attack. Bleeding from knife wounds is actually harder to control than handgun wounds … especially when it’s multiple cuts/stabs. Thinking back to my old VFD days and at wrecks bleeding out took more lives than vehicle fires. Yep, knives make you bleed damn quick so I can sure see the trend the video‘s numbers show.
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Mrs. was a martial artist. Yes, before she got sick, she could kick my ass.

I mentioned to her one time that I was more afraid of edged weapons than guns. She told me that was a definitely good thought. And proceeded to tell me where and how someone good with a knife, like her sensei, could cut me and that there would be no surgery necessary. An ambulance couldn't get there fast enough to be of any help to stabilize me til I could get to the O.R.
 

Man charged with murder after deputies say he killed three coworkers​

By Gregory Lemos and Alaa Elassar, CNN

Updated 3:17 PM ET, Mon October 4, 2021

"(CNN) A man who authorities say killed three of his coworkers with a baseball bat and knife in Florida on Saturday has been charged with murder.
Shaun Paul Runyon killed his coworkers inside the rental house they shared in Davenport, in central Florida, according to an affidavit from the Polk County Sheriff's Office."



https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/03/us/florida-coworkers-killed/index.html
 
TripleO7 said:
Mrs. was a martial artist. Yes, before she got sick, she could kick my ass.

I mentioned to her one time that I was more afraid of edged weapons than guns. She told me that was a definitely good thought. And proceeded to tell me where and how someone good with a knife, like her sensei, could cut me and that there would be no surgery necessary. An ambulance couldn't get there fast enough to be of any help to stabilize me til I could get to the O.R.
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If you know enough anatomy, you can do some real damage.

In response to the message quoted above. You could be sitting in the OR on a table with a surgeon at the ready and you would still bleed out from a well placed stab wound. Sever the aorta from the heart and your dead. All the surgeon could do is complete the toe tag and send you to the morgue.

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That is one reason a disparity of force argument rarely made much sense to me. A firearm is certainly not the only thing that can kill you, and you should not be prevented from using a very effective weapon if someone without a similar weapon tries to harm or kill you.
 
Grits said:
If you know enough anatomy, you can do some real damage.

In response to the message quoted above. You could be sitting in the OR on a table with a surgeon at the ready and you would still bleed out from a well placed stab wound. Sever the aorta from the heart and your dead. All the surgeon could do is complete the toe tag and send you to the morgue.
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from the right angle, even one jab could open your heart, cut a lung, and give you a pneumothorax
 
NCFubar said:
Years back in CQB the most memorable words for me were in a knife fight you will be cut … that’s when I really started believing in the 21 foot rule. As he went on he made another surprising statement he almost would rather be shot by a handgun than attacked by a knife. When I had a chance to ask about his “choice” he explained than a bullet from a handgun has a higher survi rate than a knife attack. Bleeding from knife wounds is actually harder to control than handgun wounds … especially when it’s multiple cuts/stabs. Thinking back to my old VFD days and at wrecks bleeding out took more lives than vehicle fires. Yep, knives make you bleed damn quick so I can sure see the trend the video‘s numbers show.
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Unless the cut is over a superficial artery, it'll bleed a lot, but likely not be life-threatening. Stabs on the other hand, they do lot of damage. In any case a knife wound is not necessarily harder to control than a GSW; a hole is a hole is a hole. It's all about the anatomy under the hole.

In theory any GSW is worse because of the energy expanded and the expanded wound channel. Again, depends on the structures. Me, I'd choose neither.
 
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