NC Sheriff's Association Firearms Update - 2017

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Isn't this ancient "non" news?
 
Yep - just in from Sheriff this morning

Please note that the letter includes bills that did NOT pass - those provisions (mag size, Constitutional carry) are NOT law but does show what some of our elected 'leaders' would like to do.
 
That frog would have not bumped his arse if he had wings.


But seriously, HB746 comes up next session in 2018. We need to get er done.
 
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Well bless our elected leaders hearts!!
Seriously we need to get HB746 passed in the 2018 session, its so ridicules that I can get arrested if my jacket or shirt covers my open carry pistol by accident and some crazy LEO decides to make an issue out of it just because he doesnt like the way I look....now dont get me wrong, most of our LEO’s are good guys, but like in every profession there are assholes, and I have met a couple.


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Well bless our elected leaders hearts!!
Seriously we need to get HB746 passed in the 2018 session, its so ridicules that I can get arrested if my jacket or shirt covers my open carry pistol by accident and some crazy LEO decides to make an issue out of it just because he doesnt like the way I look....now dont get me wrong, most of our LEO’s are good guys, but like in every profession there are assholes, and I have met a couple.


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So get a CHP - issue solved
 
The NC Sheriff's Association is not a gun owners friend. Very few of the Sheriffs in NC are truly supportive of the 2A. It's all about the power and hubris of the office and making good on the good ol'boy politics, greasing hands and fattening wallets of a few.

I've often thought the 100 sheriffs of the state have far too much power and far too little scrutiny pointed towards them.
 
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The NC Sheriff's Association is not a gun owners friend. Very few of the Sheriffs in NC are truly supportive of the 2A. It's all about the power and hubris of the office and making good on the good ol'boy politics, greasing hands and fattening wallets of a few.

I've often thought the 100 sheriffs of the state have far too much power and far too little scrutiny pointed towards them.

It would be interesting to see which county sheriffs are pro, which are con and which are neutral, our individual opinions of their firearms support notwithstanding. They do not make the laws in the state, that is not their function. Their job is to enforce the law as written, whether we like the law or not. I've a gut feel from discussions with deputies around the state that we could be surprised at how pro gun many really are.
 
They may not legislate, however they have an incredible amount of influence over legislation and legislators. The Sheriffs Association has been a major stumbling block regarding passage of HB-746 and numerous attempts at ending the current statewide handgun purchase permit system.

What is it said about gov't?

Once a power is given to gov't, the gov't will never relinquish it.
 
They may not legislate, however they have an incredible amount of influence over legislation and legislators. The Sheriffs Association has been a major stumbling block regarding passage of HB-746 and numerous attempts at ending the current statewide handgun purchase permit system.

What is it said about gov't?

Once a power is given to gov't, the gov't will never relinquish it.

"Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely" Lord Acton.
 
It would be interesting to see which county sheriffs are pro, which are con and which are neutral, our individual opinions of their firearms support notwithstanding. They do not make the laws in the state, that is not their function. Their job is to enforce the law as written, whether we like the law or not. I've a gut feel from discussions with deputies around the state that we could be surprised at how pro gun many really are.

Meck Sheriff Carmichael owns a martial arts school that has a CHP class....

If I was selling classes, I'm not sure I would have any interest in seeing the concealed carry laws relaxed.

It would also be interesting to know how many people would blow off the class just because they can.

Due to the current state of affairs regarding gun laws and the ability to skip the PPP process with a CHP makes it well worth it. Just an opinion.
 
100% correct. Which is why if any gun ban is passed you cannot count on LEOs to do the “right thing” at confiscation time. After all, they are “just following orders.”
And as I've said before: one has to wonder how much of their behavior is based upon a fundamental belief in the righteousness of their actions versus it being a paycheck. I guarantee you if it is the latter their willingness to risk their lives to attempt a confiscation will be quite low once the people, who are defending their inherent rights and way of life, start actively resisting.

I was reading on another forum yesterday and saw a comment in response to the Libtards saying we need to take Australia's approwch to "gun violence". The response (including the profanity) was, "Americans aren't gong to give up their guns just because a bunch of fvcking liberals want them to."
 
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And as I've said before: one has to wonder how much of their behavior is based upon a fundamental belief in the righteousness of their actions versus it being a paycheck. I guarantee you if it is the latter their willingness to risk their lives to attempt a confiscation will be quite low once the people, who are defending their inherent rights and way of life, start actively resisting.

I was reading on another forum yesterday and saw a comment in response to the Libtards saying we need to take Australia's approwch to "gun violence". The response (including the profanity) was, "Americans aren't gong to give up their guns just because a bunch of fvcking liberals want them to."
How many people would actually stand up and fight against something like that.
 
How many people would actually stand up and fight against something like that.
Let me put it this way. I've already made my rudimentary plan in that if this nation gets to that point, I won't be living in an urban or suburban environment. With that in mind, let's just say that "law dogs" thinking their coming for us or our property wouldn't even get to the front door. Their power is based largely on the idea that people believe in and will respect their "authority". That won't be an issue for me.

As far as using a military to pull off such an action, well, this country would be burning long before we got to that point.
 
Has anyone heard that the Union County Sheriff has declared the he's gonna allow only 15 round mags & nothing over? If caught with anything over it will be a misdemeanor. I know he refused to sign off on suppressors.
 
Has anyone heard that the Union County Sheriff has declared the he's gonna allow only 15 round mags & nothing over? If caught with anything over it will be a misdemeanor. I know he refused to sign off on suppressors.

Not sure how he’s going to enforce that. Seems like a good way to get paid if arrested for those laws he came up with.


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Not sure how he’s going to enforce that. Seems like a good way to get paid if arrested for those laws he came up with.


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Supposedly he sent this decree in an email. I didn't get the email. Nor do I intend to obey any such jibber jabber.
 
Supposedly he sent this decree in an email. I didn't get the email. Nor do I intend to obey any such jibber jabber.

Sheriffs don’t have any power to enact laws that I know of. They are only responsible for enforcing the current laws. I’d say it’s bs or he said he’d like to have a law like that.


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So I'm traversing his county from one where >15 are legal to another, within a state where <15 are PERFECTLY legal...and he does what?????
 
So I'm traversing his county from one where >15 are legal to another, within a state where <15 are PERFECTLY legal...and he does what?????

Hopefully he drags me out of the car and tazes and beats me with it all being caught on video. Just think of all the fun toys you could get after that payday?
 
I can't find any mention of it except a posting by a union county resident that says he got the email. I'm thinking it's bs. I just messaged the resident to see if he'll forward said email.
 
Supposedly he sent this decree in an email. I didn't get the email. Nor do I intend to obey any such jibber jabber.
Mine was in the spam folder along with an invitation to share half a bazillion dollars from a prince in Ghana.
 
If they kill the first few resisters hard enough, the rest fall in line.

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Which line? I would think active action against "innocent" people would start a war. But, that's where the line gets blurry
First will be those branded as criminals, enemies of the state. But, at some point, a line will be crossed, a line recognized not only by the public, but also those enforcing. Enough will be enough.
There has been a discussion that LEO's live in our communities. Crossing the line will make their lives difficult in many ways. They will be reluctant to do that. I'd hate to be in that situation. I know in certain military branches some commanders have stated privately, that if it comes to action against our own citizens, they will stand down.
 
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