New Hunting Bill in NC House

Better control over the dog thing. Good.

Nickel and dimming you for everything. Not good.


Just think if there were no buttholes, we wouldn't need new laws. People abuse the piss out of stuff and create their own problems.

I hate over regulation.
 
I ran into a Game Warden one day while quail hunting. It was deer season and he was looking for some deer hunters. He told me how he had given a deer hunter a ticket for hunting on land without permission. He said the hunter told him that he was just looking for his dogs. He said he told the hunter, "You don't have to carry that gun to look for your dog on property that you aren't supposed to be on."
 
Tailhunter said:
Better control over the dog thing. Good.

Nickel and dimming you for everything. Not good.


Just think if there were no buttholes, we wouldn't need new laws. People abuse the piss out of stuff and create their own problems.

I hate over regulation.
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I agree. Dog Hunters went to Raleigh to protest this bill, and have a few GOP reps not for it. I suspect it will be watered down or scrapped.

We already have private property laws on the books, (trespassing), but they aren't respected by many, and hard to enforce against an individual who releases on one side, and has his dogs run across your property and waits on the other side off your property. I have issues with dog hunters on land I lease to hunt. Catching them is near impossible, and they know it and don't care. They didn't trespass, and claim they can't control where their dogs run. They have no problem shooting something run off your property that these dogs "accidentally went on".

I'm totally against the additional fees. For private property rights.
 
SPST said:
I ran into a Game Warden one day while quail hunting. It was deer season and he was looking for some deer hunters. He told me how he had given a deer hunter a ticket for hunting on land without permission. He said the hunter told him that he was just looking for his dogs. He said he told the hunter, "You don't have to carry that gun to look for your dog on property that you aren't supposed to be on."
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A lot of the dog hunters around here are smarter than that. They won't get caught on someone else's property. They will release where they have permission, then let the dogs run across property they don't have permission to be on inorder to chase deer of that property. Then wait on the other side or near the roads for something to run off the property.

Thus they technically aren't trespassing, and you can't get a charge unless the individual was on the property.

They are letting their dogs trespass for them, and it's something that needs to be addressed.
 
The dogs don't deserve to be shot. Their owners do. However, it is very easy to "relocate" unwanted animals to a new home 2 counties away, just takes a bowl of dog food on one end, and a group of kids on the other that want a FREE puppy.
 
concepthomes1 said:
I know this is a touchy subject, but sometimes the life of one dog may need to be taken to put some respect into the owner of said dog.

I'm not advocating for the outright shootings of any dog found on your property but if it's a chronic event, then maybe additional steps need to be taken.
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I'm not for shooting the dog, they actually don't know any better. There needs to be a lawful way to hold their owners responsible for violating private property rights. Also shooting the dog on land you lease is a touchy issue with the law if it's proven you shot a non threatening dog that's not destroying your property. The deer aren't your property. The crops aren't my property if I'm just leasing hunting rights. Most the dogs have tracking collars, in some cases imbedded micro chips under the skin. My luck I would get caught and have the books thrown at me for shooting a dog. Shooting a dog in today's society is as bad as a sex offender. Heck you'd probably get more time for killing the dog.
 
Shrek said:
We don't need any new laws. Of any kind. Period.
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Usually I agree, but in this case I haven't found a way for a trespassing charge to stick unless the individual theirself enters the property.

Thus it needs to be addressed and determined if turning dogs loose near someone else's posted property, not controlling them and letting them run across posted property is a type of trespassing or a violation of private property rights. This is something current laws don't address that I know of.
 
Rogue_One said:
A lot of the dog hunters around here are smarter than that. They won't get caught on someone else's property. They will release where they have permission, then let the dogs run across property they don't have permission to be on inorder to chase deer of that property. Then wait on the other side or near the roads for something to run off the property.

Thus they technically aren't trespassing, and you can't get a charge unless the individual was on the property.

They are letting their dogs trespass for them, and it's something that needs to be addressed.
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Tailhunter said:
Maybe if a few dogs came up missing now and again, they would stop that crap.
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Maybe something like this?

http://wncn.com/2015/11/17/nc-man-arrested-for-shooting-killing-two-hunting-dogs/
 
If I had a dollar for every time a dog hunter used the "Well I'm just looking for my dogs" While trespassing on family private property with a gun, I could buy a nice dinner with drinks.

Dog or no dog, you get permission to enter property, and you leave that gun in the truck.
 
Rogue_One said:
Usually I agree, but in this case I haven't found a way for a trespassing charge to stick unless the individual theirself enters the property.

Thus it needs to be addressed and determined if turning dogs loose near someone else's posted property, not controlling them and letting them run across posted property is a type of trespassing or a violation of private property rights. This is something current laws don't address that I know of.
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It would never get passed, but I'd love to see a fine of $100 per dog, per incident, when a hunting animal trespasses on property the hunter does not have permission to hunt.
 
In Kentucky wardens told us to shoot any dogs chasing deer on our land & leases even when wearing collars. Also to shoot all cats in your areas.
 
I am from a dog hunting county and shooting a dog here can land you in a pile of shit. Most of the clubs that consist of locals are good to go. The problem clubs tend to recruit from out of the area in order to pay for leases and feed. That said laws on tresspassing/poaching need to be stricter. I have had more trouble with still hunters in the past few years than dog hunters and they are a whole lot harder to catch. Loose dogs from trailer parks have ruined more hunts than hounds too.
 
Simple solution. For 17 some odd years, I guided part time on a controlled shooting preserve in Caswell County. After years of asking the local clubs to not run across our land and being told "the dogs can't read no trespassing signs", a dog or two might have been "mistaken" for a coyote on occasion. This was bad juju legally. We even caught the dogs that we could and attempted to contact the owners via telephone and CB. Most of the time, the owners would show up a day or two later to pick up their dogs that we had kenneled and fed (most of the dogs looked undernourished). The best way that we found to make the clubs/owners pay attention was to carry the dogs to the pound. Of course the dog's owners had their names/CB handle and channel on the collars so they were easy for the county to contact to come their dogs. If I remember correctly, it cost $35 then to get a dog out of impound and the owners were less than happy to pay it to get their pack back, but most of them did anyway. The good was that we hit them hard in the wallet, we didn't kill any dogs and get into trouble, and the clubs were held somewhat accountable for their lowclass hunting styles of "dropping the dogs" right on our property lines.
 
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