NO CZ 75 trigger love

[rufrdr]

I bought a CZ 75 BD awhile ago because it seemed to be the thing to do. The price was right and I also got the Kadet 22 kit to go with it.

the pistol is well made, the sights are great, and the Kadet kit is the best functioning .22 pistol conversion kit I've owned but the trigger on the CZ is just horrible. I guess I'm just too used to the 1911 trigger but each pull of the CZ trigger feels like a double action cycle.

Are there any reasonable remedies to this besides selling the whole ensemble?

 

[BowWow]

The Decocker has the worst trigger of them all. Cajun Gun Works and The CZ Custom Shop both offer products and services for the triggers. I sold my BD...…. the SA has a much better trigger. If I recall..... the B models can easily be converted to SA.

 

[Beef15]

Cajun Gunworks and there's a large picture heavy trigger tuning thread over on the Brian Enos forum.

 

[DrPhudd]

The DA/SA B model is pretty nice. I put a competition hammer and sear (forget who made the sear) in mine. Smooth DA, longish takeup in SA but very sweet. I also have a SA trigger that I run in it sometimes. There is nothing closer to a nice 1911 trigger.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

The Decocker has the worst trigger of them all. Cajun Gun Works and The CZ Custom Shop both offer products and services for the triggers. I sold my BD...…. the SA has a much better trigger. If I recall..... the B models can easily be converted to SA.

If you haven't already done so, you need to join the CZ Forum, here: https://czfirearms.us/ Anything you might want or need to know about CZs can be found there.

Except for some trivial differences in the BD hammer hooks (one is removed to make room for the decocker linkage), the triggers and hammer parts are the same for the decocker models and the safety models. Even the SA models have the same parts -- with the disconnector removed. (They offer a different trigger on the SA model, that has adjustments for over-travel and take up.)

There's not TYPICALLY a big difference in the triggers between the decocker guns and the safety-models. If you find a decocker with a bad trigger, it's just the factory "luck of the draw" biting you on the butt -- the same thing could have happened with a safety-equipped model. Most user feel you have to put 300-400 rounds through a CZ before the trigger finally settles in. I never had the patience for that, and when I bought one new, had a local gunsmith do a trigger job (which is can be similar to artificially accelerating break-in wear.) Some action jobs are much more comprehensive.

Parts from Cajun Gun Works (or the CZ Custom Shop) can usually be home-gunsmith-installed without a lot of problems, but the decocker models are a bit harder to work with.

You can do it yourself using CGW or CZC parts, have a local gunsmith do it for you (if you have one you trust), or bite the bullet and send it to Cajun Gun Works or the Custom Shop and have them install a trigger kit and a competition hammer, and you'll never complain about a CZ trigger again. Just replacing the hammer alone, and installing a slightly lighter hammer spring typically ends nearly all complaints -- and both of those jobs are pretty easy.

 

[Charlie]

The problem I had with my trigger was that it had edges that hurt my finger after a few shots. A bit of work with a file and stone made it much better.

 

[BlackGun]

The curve on the CZ triggers are too pronounced. I have no problem unless I shoot over 100 rounds at one setting. The standard metal CZ guns all hurt my trigger finger to the point I quit. It doesn’t happen with plastic guns like Glocks, Caniks, S&W, and other striker fired. My issue is compounded by a serious crook in the last digit of my trigger finger which was shattered by a softball.

If I have to spend $500.00 for hammers, springs, and triggers to make a $600 gun feel good then I might as well buy a gun for $1100.00 that is ready. I love my CZs and the next will be a CZ but I’m buying quality over trigger feel.

 

[CZfool68]

I think @chiefjason did a SA conversion and some trigger work to his CZ 75. Maybe he can chime in. I think the results were a sweet trigger pull if my memory is correct.

In my experience you can either use the CGW parts or pay CZ Custom to get great trigger from CZ's with decockers, but they rarely quite match an excellent 1911 triggerr. I have a CZ Custom gun with a decocker. The SA pull is a little under 4 lbs and the DA is about 8 lbs. Very smooth trigger pulls. But not the same as a 1911. If you should both 1911 and CZ's on a regular basis you'll have to live with the fact they are different. But both are excellent.

 

[CZfool68]

The curve on the CZ triggers are too pronounced. I have no problem unless I shoot over 100 rounds at one setting. The standard metal CZ guns all hurt my trigger finger to the point I quit. It doesn’t happen with plastic guns like Glocks, Caniks, S&W, and other striker fired. My issue is compounded by a serious crook in the last digit of my trigger finger which was shattered by a softball.

If I have to spend $500.00 for hammers, springs, and triggers to make a $600 gun feel good then I might as well buy a gun for $1100.00 that is ready. I love my CZs and the next will be a CZ but I’m buying quality over trigger feel.

You can get the flatter 85 style trigger still. They are a nice compromise over going completely flat.

 

[chiefjason]

Here is one of the threads on the conversion.

https://www.carolinafirearmsforum.c...us-trigger-weight-question.23564/#post-408197

Race hammer, flat trigger, adjustable sear, and replaced hammer springs.

You can get all the post travel out of the trigger. But you can only get so much pre travel out and still use the firing pin block safety. That is one of the issues I had, once the pre travel was gone the gun would not fire. It was not moving the firing pin block out of the way. I'm still running this set up with the heavier hammer spring too.

 

[BlackGun]

What benefit would such curvature be? I’m sure a company like CZ with high standards has a reason. I was thinking it gave security in placement of the trigger finger when putting it through the trigger guard.

 

[rufrdr]

I guess before I start changing things in the pistol I should but more rounds through it. I guess I am spoiled by Government model triggers although even my Browning HP has a better trigger than the CZ.

 

[BowWow]

I guess before I start changing things in the pistol I should but more rounds through it. I guess I am spoiled by Government model triggers although even my Browning HP has a better trigger than the CZ.

The BD will never have a great trigger, it can get better but it will never be what a 1911 can be. Before i spent any money on trigger work, i would sell it.....saying this from my experience......however i have been very happy with my single action.

 

[rufrdr]

The BD will never have a great trigger, it can get better but it will never be what a 1911 can be. Before i spent any money on trigger work, i would sell it.....saying this from my experience......however i have been very happy with my single action.

Want to buy a nice BD ?

You are probably right but with the Kadet kit and magazines I'll probably not get back nearly what I have into it. Something to consider though.

 

[chiefjason]

I guess before I start changing things in the pistol I should but more rounds through it. I guess I am spoiled by Government model triggers although even my Browning HP has a better trigger than the CZ.

Is the pre travel the issue? It can be removed BUT you have to remove the firing pin safety too. Since I carry mine I decided to keep the firing pin safety.

Why not keep the Kadet kit and try to sell or trade into a SA? Lots of folks don't like SA and might want something else.

 

[rufrdr]

Yes, it is the pre-travel. I'd rather not remove any safety device given today's sue-happy culture. I spent about an hour snapping it last night and realized that this trigger requires a firm and rapid squeeze rather than the deliberate squeeze I'm used to with my 1911s. If I do the 75s trigger slowly it seems to go on forever but a rapid squeeze seems doable.

More range time for me. I think I would like a SA 75. They weren't available when I bought this BD. In fact only BDs were available where I was.

 

[NKD]

The stock trigger on my 75B was painful for me. The shape caused lots of trigger bite. I was disappointed in it. I went SA on that gun.
But, a trigger change seems to help most people that need to stay DA. As Czfool68 noted a lot go to the '85 style which seems to cure it for most people.

The basic stock CZ pistols are nothing to write home about trigger wise. Not to many sub 500$ SA/DA steel guns that are. They are a great base gun. I feel the same way about a glock.
But with a little work and not much money they can be made very good. A new trigger shoe, some springs, and some polishing and realistic expectations can yield excellent results. I don't mind the rough edges because I like to tinker with guns and I only use them for range/match use. A little more can get a short reset system and lighter hammer. I've felt firing block guns that felt great!

If one were to want to get one out of the box ready to go, the Shadows don't have the FPB and generally better triggers. The Tactical Sports are SAO guns with sub 2lb triggers. You can spend even more and get a custom tuned one. They can get spendy. But I've seen $3000 glocks now so reason has been upended!