Olympus Arms KISS

[somethingwolfpack]

Can't see to find a factory website for these but here is the latest shot show info on it



TL;DR - someone shrunk up the long recoil action to be used in an AR10 (sorta) rifle.
If it stays true to other long recoil guns; it most likely won't be as accurate as a traditional stationary barrel design and others have failed trying to import that concept
*cough* LWRC SMG45 *cough*

However, I still want one purely for the cool factor. The MSRP ~$4000 seems steep, but high end 308 semi auto - think LMT, KAC, H&K, FN ETC tend to be around that price point and since this essentially the company's only offering: I'm willing to forgive the high price tag.

A Jmac tanodized triangle folder on this would be absolutely sick

 

[Get Off My Lawn]

It is cool. Not so much at that price point.

 

[Clicker]

Cost aside it's always good to see this kind of innovative, groundbreaking product come to the market although not all succeed.
I hope this guy makes bank and never has to want for anything for the rest of his days.

 

[somethingwolfpack]

Cost aside it's always good to see this kind of innovative, groundbreaking product come to the market although not all succeed.
I hope this guy makes bank and never has to want for anything for the rest of his days.

Preach

 

[Frack N Cylons]

I thought I saw Olympic Arms and $4000 in the same thread and almost spewed my drink.

 

[willpgn]

Pretty sure he had a prototype at SHOT last year…maybe even the year before. Very cool, but too many clams for my chowder!

 

[USMC6094]

It, and the POF 308 AR15 are solutions in search of a problem, and they're both too expensive and too proprietary

 

[somethingwolfpack]

It, and the POF 308 AR15 are solutions in search of a problem, and they're both too expensive and too proprietary

There is so many problems with this sentence that it would be a separate forum post in of itself to address it.

-What is so proprietary in that you as an end user need to worry about? Springs, bolts, firing pins? Unless you're working in an arms room or acquisition for a PD, proprietary for them is important because of logistics and bureaucracy. You shooting on the weekends and having to reach out to a manufacturer to buy a spare parts kit isn't exactly inconvenient.
-You have a democrat as president; everything is expensive. Have you bought eggs recently?
-Solutions in search of a problem? Its innovation - thinking outside the box and creating something new drives competition and breaks the norm; both of which are pinnacle assets in American capitalism and the consumer driven marketplace

By this logic, the only guns you should have in your possession is a Glock 19 and/or a Colt 6920, with your car with being a Honda Civic, your home being a 2 bedroom apartment and your diet consisting of menu from war time rationing. Indulge a little- buy something because its fun and unique, not because its practical.

 

[USMC6094]

There is so many problems with this sentence that it would be a separate forum post in of itself to address it.

-What is so proprietary in that you as an end user need to worry about? Springs, bolts, firing pins? Unless you're working in an arms room or acquisition for a PD, proprietary for them is important because of logistics and bureaucracy. You shooting on the weekends and having to reach out to a manufacturer to buy a spare parts kit isn't exactly inconvenient.
-You have a democrat as president; everything is expensive. Have you bought eggs recently?
-Solutions in search of a problem? Its innovation - thinking outside the box and creating something new drives competition and breaks the norm; both of which are pinnacle assets in American capitalism and the consumer driven marketplace

By this logic, the only guns you should have in your possession is a Glock 19 and/or a Colt 6920, with your car with being a Honda Civic, your home being a 2 bedroom apartment and your diet consisting of menu from war time rationing. Indulge a little- buy something because its fun and unique, not because its practical.

Well pardon me all to hell, I'm sorry my opinion didn't jive with yours.......

 

[somethingwolfpack]

Well pardon me all to hell, I'm sorry my opinion didn't jive with yours.......

Your opinion surmounted to "that's expensive and complicated"

 

[georgel]

Yes, it's cool and innovative. The real question, is what does it bring to the table? Is it more reliable? Will it be adaptable to full auto fire? Does it have a better shot to shot time? Is it scalable too more powerful calibers? I mean, a semi-auto 300 Win Mag or .338 Lapua could be interesting.

 

[somethingwolfpack]

Yes, it's cool and innovative. The real question, is what does it bring to the table? Is it more reliable? Will it be adaptable to full auto fire? Does it have a better shot to shot time? Is it scalable too more powerful calibers? I mean, a semi-auto 300 Win Mag or .338 Lapua could be interesting.

Long recoil offers a *significant* reduction in recoil. That application alone has limitless marketing buzzwords; "recoil sensitive, small stature, elderly."
I think this is getting the foot in the door, the owner mentions the desire to make more but its just a small company. Scaling it up isn't an issue - there is already a bullpup collapsing rifle on the market. I think the bigger benefit to long recoil is the lack of necessity for a gas system and the higher achievable rates of fire

 

[georgel]

I looked at the buttstock on it in the thumbnail and thought “that’s ugly”.

Then I realized it’s the same one I have on two of my guns. Maybe I need to update.

Well, one of the smart things he did was keep the buttstock and grip compatible, so customization is unrestricted. (Unless it's a brace. )