Pecan trees

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We moved to the Benson area back in September and our new property has three mature and healthy pecan trees in the back yard. They dropped a lot of pecans this fall and I’d like to keep that going. Anyone have experience with pest control and fertilizing pecans?

Previous owner was apparently doing something with them, he had metal rods in the ground by each tree and there’s the remnants of what looks like red paint on the trunks but I have no idea what that’s for.
 
I can't answer your question, but I am peanut butter and jealous. Growing up I had an aunt & uncle who had a country house on a pond out near Knightdale, and their property was littered with pecan trees; they must have had a dozen. I loved picking pecans. I have very fond memories of those trees.
 
I can't answer your question, but I am peanut butter and jealous. Growing up I had an aunt & uncle who had a country house on a pond out near Knightdale, and their property was littered with pecan trees; they must have had a dozen. I loved picking pecans. I have very fond memories of those trees.
Part of the reason I liked this property, previous owner did a lot of planting and obviously put a lot of work into maintaining it. Tons of muscadines, fig trees, pecans.
 
I buy my pecan fertilizer from the local feed and seed. Its called pecan fertilizer because it has zinc in it, could be why the previous owner has rods around them if they are zinc coated.
 
My uncle had pecan trees next door to us when I was growing up. Seems he always had web worms in the trees. I would suggest treating the ground under them for these pesky things.
We have some webs in the trees, I assume it’s the same thing.
 
We have some webs in the trees, I assume it’s the same thing.
That sounds like it. I am told that they go into the ground, reproduce and climb into the tree the next year hence the reason for treating the ground under them. I would assume this needs to be done at the appropriate time but I am not sure when that is.

Of course you can always do what my uncle did and burn them out of the tree. I would still treat the ground in any case.
 
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I have 4 huge pecan trees at my home. 2 produce what I call “regular” pecans, one produces long “paper shell”, and one produces tiny ones (tons of work shelling for a small payout, but the best tasting by far) I’m convinced the previous owner fertilized them in some way because the first fall after we bought the house we had close to 15 paper grocery bags full before we said “enough is enough” and had plenty of friends/family stop by and grab their share as well. The last 4 years the crop has been terrible on a couple trees and non-existent on the other two. I’m a little bummed, but my back isn’t, and I’m not about to fertilize them.

Another note: I don’t know if there’s any truth to this but I’ve heard these trees need other trees to produce. Male/female kinda thing. There was a lone giant pecan on the neighboring property that was cut down to make way for a house back around my one year mark living here so that’s always been a question in my mind, whether or not my trees needed that one.
 
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Pecan trees do have alternate bearing, will have a good year and then a light year and every 2-3 years will have a heavy crop. They do need zinc to produce. I buy 10-10-10 with zinc at Southern States.

Webworms can be an issue and seem to be worse some years. Sticky traps around the base of the tree can help with them.

My biggest issue is squirrels. I have a tree that has been bearing age for over 5 years and have not gotten a single pecan off of it. I'm working on that issue now.

My grandfather used to have a bunch of mature pecan trees and when my mom and her sister sold the property, they were all bulldozed. He had one paper shell tree that had 3 huge "halves" instead of 2 in each nut. I wish I had a copy of that tree.
 
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I recently acquired a property with several mature, and several younger pecan trees. Good picking this last fall, made great pies and stuff.

I have heard that pecans usually have a two years cycle and skip every other year... What say ye?

Thats normal for most nut producing trees. Walnuts and Oak trees have heavy mast years and light mast years. Having a few years in a row that are too dry or too wet can affect the crop too.

I'd go easy on any fertlizer with a lot of nitrogen in it. Trees have a lower nitrogen requirement than row crops or grass, and giving them too much can stress them out over time.

To keep bugs and beetles out of the trees, you can sprinkle sevin dust around the base of the tree.
 
Many years ago, there were 4 huge mature pecan trees in my Grandmother's yard. And they produced a lot of pecans. She would use some, and gather and sell the rest at the farmer's market. She lived on a farm, and both of my uncles farmed the family land, growing tobacco, corn and beans. I do not know how they fertilized the pecan trees. But I do remember there was a guy in town that flew a cropduster. And when he was spraying for worms locally, they'd get him to come over my Grandmother's yard and hit those trees every year.
 
So this 10-10-10 stuff with zinc...
Do I just pour it on the ground near the trees? Do I dig a hole and dump it in?
School me like I ride the short bus
 
So this 10-10-10 stuff with zinc...
Do I just pour it on the ground near the trees? Do I dig a hole and dump it in?
School me like I ride the short bus
I believe you need to keep it about a foot from the trunk of the tree and spread it on the ground that the branches cover if that makes sense. There’s a ratio for the size of the tree to how much you apply. At least that’s what the internet told me today lol.
 
My grandfather would also take Red Devil Lye and use an old paint brush and brush it into the bark on the pecan trees every couple of years. It would turn the bark black. He said it killed bugs that lived in the bark.

Found this on line for the fertilizer:

Fertilizing Pecan Trees

There is debate among experts as to how much fertilizer a mature pecan tree actually needs. Some recommend up to 50 pounds or more of fertilizer per tree. While these amounts won't harm a mature pecan tree, it may not be necessary to apply such large amounts. Other experts suggest from their own experience that this amount can be reduced by 50 percent or more if ample water is supplied. So, if you have a free source of water, it may be more economical to supply your pecan trees with ample water, verses dumping large amounts of high-cost fertilizer around them. Which method is more economical might depend on where you live, and the cost of water compared to fertilizer.

Which Pecan Fertilizer To Use
The main thing pecan trees need to produce nuts is nitrogen (the first number in fertilizer). If you are growing a tree or two in your yard, 10-10-10 might be a suitable fertilizer for you, but you'll need to apply Zinc separately. This fertilizer can be tossed out by hand around small trees or spread with a small push-type rotary spreader around a large tree.

If you are growing an orchard of pecan trees, and looking to make a profit, you'll probably want to use a fertilizer containing ammonium sulphate, which is typically accepted as the suitable fertilizer by most pecan tree farmers. Ammonium sulfate can be bought in bulk form, or in bags. If you decide to purchase your fertilizer in bulk, you'll have to have a way to spread it. Usually, the places that sell bulk fertilizers have commercial spreaders available for lease. These commercial spreaders will work fine if your trees are 20 to 30' more in height. But if your trees are younger and smaller, commercial spreaders may sling out fertilizer in areas between the rows that won't be accessible by your trees. So, rather than waste fertilizer on the grass and weeds that grow between the rows of smaller trees, use a lawn fertilizer spreader. This puts the fertilizer exactly where it will benefit the tree. For newly planted pecan trees, spreading fertilizer by hand works well enough.


How much fertilizer?
As a general rule, use 3/4 to 1 pound of pecan tree fertilizer per 1 foot height of your pecan tree, per season, or use as directed on the bag of fertilizer. You'll want to break the application of fertilizer into two applications, as described in the next paragraph. You might also need to apply zinc sulfate, as described further below.


When to fertilize a pecan tree?
Apply half the amount of fertilizer you intend to use about a month or so prior to what is typically the last frost date in your area in late winter or early spring. Try to time this application just prior to rainfall, but not if the forecast is for torrential rainfall. Spread the other half of fertilizer about a 30-45 days after the first application, but no later than the end of May. Fertilization timing for pecan trees is very important and varies from one region to another. It's a good idea to consult with your local Extension Service agent to find out when is the best time to fertilize pecan trees in your area. Or better yet, talk to a local pecan tree farmer.

The importance of Zinc for pecan trees
If you do nothing else to your pecans trees, water them on a regular basis, and apply zinc during the early growing season. The easiest way for the home gardener is to apply granulated zinc sulfate beneath the branches of your pecan trees. Most specialty pecan tree fertilizers contain zinc.

Zinc can also be applied as a liquid foliar spray. If you have only a tree or two, or if you have a whole orchard of young, small trees, you can use a small pump-type sprayer. If your pecan trees are larger, and you have a lot of them, a mechanical sprayer will be necessary to do the job sufficiently.

If you can't reach the top of your trees using a pump-type sprayer, standing on the ground, you might have to stand on the tailgate of a pickup truck. Zinc sulfate dissolves well in water and a small amount goes a long way.


Signs and symptoms of Zinc deficiency in pecan trees
Pecan trees suffering from Zinc deficiency will display certain symptoms. Leaves that are discolored in the veins, wavy or curling leaves, or long bare branches with just a clump of leaves at the top are all symptoms of zinc deficiency. If the nut kernels are poorly filled or hollow, this too is a sign of zinc deficiency. Applications of zinc, especially in liquid form to the foliage, will insure these symptoms do not occur, and therefore insure a better crop of nuts.


When to apply Zinc to pecan trees?
As soon as leaves begin to emerge in spring, and are light yellow in color, make your first application of zinc. Zinc has a tendency to burn leaves, so spray your pecan trees in the early morning hours and not during the heat of the day. Follow directions on the package when mixing your zinc solution. Spray foliage of the trees until foliage is wet and starts to drip. Additional zinc applications should be made every two to three weeks for the next two months. If you determine your pecan trees require a pesticide treatment, most pesticides can be mixed into your zinc solution and applied concurrently.
 
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As a pecan lover since the mid 60's I will relate some changes I have observed. Our first home was blessed with three huge pecan trees which produced every other year or so, was advised to use Red Devil Lye back then but we buried it around the roots several feet from the base of the tree, we also had squirrels who loved them and I respected the squirrels because they were, at least, willing to work for their food stash. Fast forward some 30+ years and we have moved to a new location, the pecan trees I planted as seedlings are mature now and producing better than expected but the squirrels have adopted a different strategy. I used to have to shake the trees to get the pecans to fall now the squirrels have all the pecans removed from the trees before the leaves are shed in the Fall and by the end of the leaf shedding time there are no pecans left for us. I have a squirrel who has taken up residence in the loft of my barn who even objects to my walking by to my mailbox for the mail. I purchased a "Squirrelator" and relocated several of the looters last fall but was not successful in the total removal. Hoping for more success as this year progresses.
 
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I currently have a couple of large pecans on my property and have had some experience with them before this locale.
For what it is worth, I kill the squirrels when I see them in those tree as with any other pest in a crop I expect to use. This includes insects.
I do try to trim the trees every other year or so of growth that shades more desirable growth or looks damaged. I have not used any chemicals on or around them to kill pests or promote growth, and they seem to do fine.
I certainly cant find any fault with anyone that does it differently and has success, I am not confident in my ability to use chemicals and not kill everything.
It does take some work periodically.
The consistency does seem to be that pecan and other nut trees do have lighter and heavier years.
 
Wanted to Update my most recent post here- I Have Learned Something:
This time of year I will search for Pecan saplings and other desirable trees on my property to relocate elsewhere. This year I am wanting to bring these new trees mostly out to a new property I am trying to develop and manage.
I have effectively been busting squirrels for awhile in my Pecans at home, and apparently too much. I never thought I would say that, hence the new lesson. I usually find Pecan sapling like crazy, but not this year. This year I have found several Black Walnut, which is great. The reason for this is because the Walnut is behind my garage, out of my immediate line of sight, and easier and safer for squirrels to access. So far I have found no new Pecan trees to replant which is not great. If I had not put so much pressure on the squirrels regarding the Pecan trees I'd probably have saplings to dig and replant. My prohibition on squirrels idea was not 100% great advice. I interfered a bit too much, and ultimately hurt myself, lesson learned. I wanted to share this for anyone here that might have a similar future use for their Pecan trees. :)
 
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