Pistol braces ruling?

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Has the ATF come out with their final rules/ruling on the pistol braces? And if not are they still legal to use?
 
They have not. And they are.


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concepthomes2 said:
I give the ATF, BATFE, whatever BFE acronym they use zero credibility.

I don't care what "rule" they "issue", I make my own choices in life.
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Ive know 7 people who have gone to federal prison over NFA charges. Just saying.
 
Atf doesn't get to decide, courts do. There's enough of a market for court push back
 
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Notacop said:
Atf doesn't get to decide, courts do. There's enough of a market for court push back
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This is the way it's SUPPOSED to be, but in reality the ATF has pretty much been making laws as well as enforcing them.
 
Dan0311 said:
This is the way it's SUPPOSED to be, but in reality the ATF has pretty much been making laws as well as enforcing them.
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Lots of things the atf has been told to stop on by courts. The entire reason you can make a pistol into a rifle is beacuse the courts told atf to stop
 
Notacop said:
Lots of things the atf has been told to stop on by courts. The entire reason you can make a pistol into a rifle is beacuse the courts told atf to stop
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"....told to stop...." after people have been arrested and used their life-savings and years of their lives trying to defend themselves.

ATF "interprets", and that's where the problem is - even IF some of their interpretations are later overruled in court.
 
If the ATF tries to commit another regulatory taking (like it did with bump stocks), let's hope they make the same mistake they did with bump stocks -- i.e. failure to provide just compensation for the affected personal property AND failure to provide a clear path to continued legal ownership and use of such. Core to this is that the bump stock ban has been halted by way of an injunction on grounds of infringement of one's 5th Amendment rights (specifically the Takings Clause) ... in addition to other procedural grounds.

As a reminder, the SCOTUS has already set precedent that the 5th Amendment's Takings Clause applies not just to property in the sense of real estate, but personal property, as well.
 
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surrealone said:
If the ATF tries to commit another regulatory taking (like it did with bump stocks), let's hope they make the same mistake they did with bump stocks -- i.e. failure to provide just compensation for the affected personal property AND failure to provide a clear path to continued legal ownership and use of such. Core to this is that the bump stock ban has been halted by way of an injunction on grounds of infringement of one's 5th Amendment rights (specifically the Takings Clause) ... in addition to other procedural grounds.

As a reminder, the SCOTUS has already set precedent that the 5th Amendment's Takings Clause applies not just to property in the sense of real estate, but personal property, as well.
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Too bad they didn’t REALLY bolo that one and say ok, you can register it as a machine gun.
That would have been legend-wait for it-dary
 
surrealone said:
If the ATF tries to commit another regulatory taking (like it did with bump stocks), let's hope they make the same mistake Trump did with bump stocks -- i.e. failure to provide just compensation for the affected personal property AND failure to provide a clear path to continued legal ownership and use of such. Core to this is that the bump stock ban has been halted by way of an injunction on grounds of infringement of one's 5th Amendment rights (specifically the Takings Clause) ... in addition to other procedural grounds.

As a reminder, the SCOTUS has already set precedent that the 5th Amendment's Takings Clause applies not just to property in the sense of real estate, but personal property, as well.
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FIFY
 
Dan0311 said:
"....told to stop...." after people have been arrested and used their life-savings and years of their lives trying to defend themselves.

ATF "interprets", and that's where the problem is - even IF some of their interpretations are later overruled in court.
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Gun corps fighting the atf is the best way
 
Dan0311 said:
"....told to stop...." after people have been arrested and used their life-savings and years of their lives trying to defend themselves.

ATF "interprets", and that's where the problem is - even IF some of their interpretations are later overruled in court.
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And now you can make a pistol a rifle beacuse Thompson center put the money down for the fight. I don't like test cases by individuals. Trust me I got no love lost for some feds.
 
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