Pistol RDS zero?

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With all of the RDS on handguns now, what is the preferred zero of said weapons? 10, 15, 25 yds? Don't have one yet, was curious.
 
25 yds for me

I based it on this:

9mm Ballistics Chart & Coefficient (Luger) GunData.org

This is a 9mm Luger ballistics chart (external) generated using our ballistic trajectory calculator. It tracks the movement of the bullet in zero wind conditions, and out to 100 yards. If you want to go further or apply wind resistnece then use custom seetings with our ballistic calculator. All...
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which says, to me, anything closer and it doesn't matter much ...
 
I do a 25 yard zero as well.
 
Me. said:
… the 7 yard plate rack is easy to hit with this zero.

If it weren’t for the specifics of the range I go to, …
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Just curious Where is that?

I can’t think of any facility I’ve been to that allowed shooters any closer than 10 yards to steel targets (unless FRANGIBLE ammo was on-hand)
 
Pretty much anywhere between 15 and 50 will give you useful elevation, never more than an inch, inch-and-a-half off the dot in either direction for a reasonable distance.

Longer distances (35-50 yards) are real nice for confirming windage, but I wouldn’t be heartbroken if a carry gun could only be zeroed at 15 or 25 and hit an inch or two low at 50.

Closer zeroes like 7 and 10 yards shoot too high at 25 to feel responsible.
 
Thanks for all the input. I do appreciate it.
 
Zero the dot at any given range.

Remove and store the red dot.

Rezero and practice and carry with iron sights


Cause, when ya need the gun, the batteries will be dead.....but you'll be alive cause you went with the sight that works even when the batteries don't.

I'm suited up, activate your flame throwers gadget boys! :)
 
Sharps40 said:
Zero the dot at any given range.

Remove and store the red dot.

Rezero and practice and carry with iron sights


Cause, when ya need the gun, the batteries will be dead.....but you'll be alive cause you went with the sight that works even when the batteries don't.

I'm suited up, activate your flame throwers gadget boys! :)
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I’ll take the bait! (This is all in jest):

The presentation for the “nobody asked” awards will be tomorrow night at 7 PM Eastern; please note that dress code calls for white tie.

- also -

“I don’t carry optics ‘cause the batteries will die”

is just the newest version of:

“I don’t carry with adjustable iron sights because they’ll lose zero”

which is just these attitudes working backwards:

“I don’t carry with dovetail iron sights because they’ll get bumped and lose zero”

“I don’t carry hollowpoints because they’ll jam/get you sent to prison”

“I don’t carry a semi-auto because it will malfunction”

“I don’t carry a double action revolver because the mechanism is too fragile”

“I don’t carry a single action revolver because it’s possible to short stroke the hammer”

“I don’t carry a caplock because the cap could fall off”

“I don’t carry a flintlock because it might not work in the rain”

“I don’t carry a matchlock because the slow fuse might burn out”

(see also “that thumb safety there will get you killed,” accord. “I don’t use timers because there ain’t no timers in a gunfight;” “slow is smooth, smooth is fast.”)
 
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Sharps40 said:
Rezero and practice and carry with iron sights


Cause, when ya need the gun, the batteries will be dead.....but you'll be alive cause you went with the sight that works even when the batteries don't.
:)
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Not saying you are wrong from your perspective/ but I also don't agree.

I'm a terrible shot so I wouldn't believe anything I say... just a random dude on the web. Do what suits you
So..... I actually practice (dryfire @ home) with Iron sights - just leave the laser in a spare upper...

I EDC everyday 6+hrs, usually hit the range 3-7x a month with at least two pistol days any given month. My primary EDC is my training, matches, run&guns, do everything gun. I have been changing batteries 1x every 3-4 yrs on my main upper. I don't know anyone Mil/Le or just CCW who has shot or carried in the past 5 years who has worried about dead batteries with a quality optic. Training around dead batteries for EDC/CCW is a mute point with training anyway IMO. The last Red dot vs iron sight thread had me wondering about a dead battery and started doing drills with someone randomly turning it off. From a practical perspective once trained its no different. Esp if you consider the old CCW distance statistics 3-7yrds.... show me any randomly sampled 25 "pistoleers" off any range and an immediate threat and I doubt more than 5 ever saw sights to begin with.


....... Zero @15 and 25 to OP question most the 10yrd Zeros are adjusted for 25 anyway
 
JRV said:
I’ll take the bait! (This is all in jest):

The presentation for the “nobody asked” awards will be tomorrow night at 7 PM Eastern; please note that dress code calls for white tie.

- also -

“I don’t carry optics ‘cause the batteries will die”

is just the newest version of:

“I don’t carry with adjustable iron sights because they’ll lose zero”

which is just these attitudes working backwards:

“I don’t carry with dovetail iron sights because they’ll get bumped and lose zero”

“I don’t carry hollowpoints because they’ll jam/get you sent to prison”

“I don’t carry a semi-auto because it will malfunction”

“I don’t carry a double action revolver because the mechanism is too fragile”

“I don’t carry a single action revolver because it’s possible to short stroke the hammer”

“I don’t carry a caplock because the cap could fall off”

“I don’t carry a flintlock because it might not work in the rain”

“I don’t carry a matchlock because the slow fuse might burn out”

(see also “that thumb safety there will get you killed,” accord. “I don’t use timers because there ain’t no timers in a gunfight;” “slow is smooth, smooth is fast.”)
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Best response to a jab yet. Durn near a KO. I'm on the ropes and wobbling.

PS neighbor lady asked for y'alls batteries since yer gonna use iron sights... something about her intruder, I don't know.
 
GTX30R said:
Not saying you are wrong from your perspective/ but I also don't agree.

I'm a terrible shot so I wouldn't believe anything I say... just a random dude on the web. Do what suits you
So..... I actually practice (dryfire @ home) with Iron sights - just leave the laser in a spare upper...

I EDC everyday 6+hrs, usually hit the range 3-7x a month with at least two pistol days any given month. My primary EDC is my training, matches, run&guns, do everything gun. I have been changing batteries 1x every 3-4 yrs on my main upper. I don't know anyone Mil/Le or just CCW who has shot or carried in the past 5 years who has worried about dead batteries with a quality optic. Training around dead batteries for EDC/CCW is a mute point with training anyway IMO. The last Red dot vs iron sight thread had me wondering about a dead battery and started doing drills with someone randomly turning it off. From a practical perspective once trained its no different. Esp if you consider the old CCW distance statistics 3-7yrds.... show me any randomly sampled 25 "pistoleers" off any range and an immediate threat and I doubt more than 5 ever saw sights to begin with.


....... Zero @15 and 25 to OP question most the 10yrd Zeros are adjusted for 25 anyway
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Your way too serious. Be sure to look for smile emojis....they help lower total blood consternation levels.!! :)

I'm assuming you won't have any batteries to donate? :). :)
 
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Sharps40 said:
Your way too serious. Be sure to look for smile emojis....they help lower total blood consternation levels.!! :)

I'm assuming you won't have any batteries to donate? :). :)
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Not at all... you have a suit on? Spare batteries are all nicely packaged somewhere next to the smoothbore in the junk drawer :p
 
No suits here, retired. Well funeral suit, case folks die and such. Parta getting old, still gotta have one funeral suit. But it's got a camo vest , so I guess I could do formal dining out in it too. No battery pockets though. :). Somebody gifted me one of those metro sexual prepper/survival packs though, it had batteries!
 
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Resurrecting an old thread. Here is a post from Facebook, a picture of 12 yard warmup shot pattern and one comment below it. See my post #13 above. Based on a linear calculation of the bullet drop (which I know will be a little off), there should only be about 0.18 of an inch difference in the point of impact between 12 and 25 yards. That head A zone area is 2 inches tall. 1) his gun was not properly zeroed at any distance between 12 and 25 yards, or 2) his aim point was wrong between the zero and whatever way he shot this group? Does that seem right? Maybe 3) this was not 9mm ammo. I just don't see what the big deal is about which yardage to zero a pistol when the chart shows total bullet drop at 30 yards to be just over 0.22 inches. 0.22 inches at 30 yards is probably an eyelash width at the front sight.

It's a pretty good group though, if he was shooting freehand.

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Where is your zero set to?
Based on what I am seeing, I would assume you zeroed at 25yds + then shot at 12.
This is normal, if that’s the case.
I sight all my handguns in to 15yds so that at 7-25yds the difference in bullet impact to sight alignment is minimal enough to still get almost all Alphas.
 
I run a Holosun EPS on my Glock 19, it is direct milled onto the slide. And I have it zeroed at 10 yds. It shoots about 1.5 inch’s high at 25 yards and I’m comfortable with that. When I’m running and gunning it’s not enough for me to tell the mechanical difference between the two.

I say play around with your zeroes and see what works best for you and your tool.
 
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