Gspec;n56395 said:Flammable material cabinet = the sealed vessel/bomb you guys are referring to? Does having the lid on the containers not do the same thing? I don't live in the boonies and have monitored security/fire so hopefully response time would be quick. Do the firefighter even ask or want to keep track of where such materials are kept on a just-in-case basis?
Tailhunter;n56317 said:Ya'll are fancy.
FatboyFlash;n56443 said:I keep some of mine in regular old kitchen cabinets and what didn't fit is on the floor
Do you run a business?Bullseye Baldee said:Gspec;n56395 said:Flammable material cabinet = the sealed vessel/bomb you guys are referring to? Does having the lid on the containers not do the same thing? I don't live in the boonies and have monitored security/fire so hopefully response time would be quick. Do the firefighter even ask or want to keep track of where such materials are kept on a just-in-case basis?
If air tight, then yes it equals a bomb. These are not air tight, so no pressured will develop. It will just burn really hot for a few seconds. This was looked at by fire dept. and they had zero concerns.
trcubed;n56456 said:Exactly what I do.
If the house ever catches fire, I'm going to stand on the curb and suggest to the FD that going in there might not be a good idea.
trcubed;n56456 said:Exactly what I do.
If the house ever catches fire, I'm going to stand on the curb and suggest to the FD that going in there might not be a good idea.
Mike Overlay;n56510 said:Yeap. Pretty good insurance for total loss. So I will strongly suggest the FD stay back at least 100 yds.
Till then, primers on the top shelf in a closet on the main floor. A bunch of powder in a kitchen type cabinet in the basement reloading room. Some on a shelf under the bench, a few stragglers on top of the bench. I think there is some primers, 5000 or so, on top of an old tv in the reloading room also
No the factory container does not constitute a pressure vessel, the plastic won't hold much pressure and melts at a fairly low temp, same reason wood is specified for constructing a magazine, it will burn and/or fail rather than heat and pressurize to the point of explosion.Gspec said:Flammable material cabinet = the sealed vessel/bomb you guys are referring to? Does having the lid on the containers not do the same thing? I don't live in the boonies and have monitored security/fire so hopefully response time would be quick. Do the firefighter even ask or want to keep track of where such materials are kept on a just-in-case basis?
David!! Nice to see here buddy. Recognize that room anywhere! lolBullseye Baldee said:You can see my my powder storage from about a year ago. Since then I have switch the small cabinet for primers only. The larger one, has powder on top and loaded rounds on lower part. Both lock and have plug in dehumidifiers.
trcubed;n56456 said:Exactly what I do.
If the house ever catches fire, I'm going to stand on the curb and suggest to the FD that going in there might not be a good idea.
The powder burning isn't as big a threat as the shrapnel generated when the blammo starts cooking off...JimB said:Someone has done the math on energy density of smoke
ess powder, and while I forget the details, he determined that it takes more than 50lbs of gunpowder to equal the energy in a gallon of gas. the fire departmentwill not be concerned about your properly stored gunpowder in any reasonable quantities.
As long as the ammo is not stored in a sealed container or a gun then if it lights the bullet will sit still and the brass will go flying at low velocity, not a danger. I do believe that full ammo cans might be a problem.JimB said:Someone has done the math on energy density of smoke
ess powder, and while I forget the details, he determined that it takes more than 50lbs of gunpowder to equal the energy in a gallon of gas. the fire departmentwill not be concerned about your properly stored gunpowder in any reasonable quantities.
Exactly my point. A lot of us store ammo in ammo cans.JimB said:Someone has done the math on energy density of smoke
ess powder, and while I forget the details, he determined that it takes more than 50lbs of gunpowder to equal the energy in a gallon of gas. the fire departmentwill not be concerned about your properly stored gunpowder in any reasonable quantities.
trcubed;n56456 said:Exactly what I do.
If the house ever catches fire, I'm going to stand on the curb and suggest to the FD that going in there might not be a good idea.
Tailhunter;n56453 said:Like ammo, it gets put everywhere.
Tailhunter;n62216 said:So how much is too much? 50 lbs?
how many primers is too many? 50k?
JimP42;n62267 said:NC fire code says how much is too much.