Resources for fiction writers?

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Anyone know of a forum equivalent of this place, but for fiction writers?

Something maybe you've personally used, vs. just what randomly shows up on google.
 
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Anyone know of a forum equivalent of this place, but for fiction writers?

Something maybe you've personally used, vs. just what randomly shows up on google.
I haven't used any, but I know of someone local who has a book or two published and asked them. She's not the most tech savvy so it wouldn't surprise me if she didn't know.
 
Anyone know of a forum equivalent of this place, but for fiction writers?

Something maybe you've personally used, vs. just what randomly shows up on google.
@Atla is our resident author and book writer with 6 or 7 (?) very cool books published over the past few years. Give him a shout.
 
My wife is a Christian Fiction writer, but I dont know if that will correspond with your genre.
 
I’d be curious if this bears any fruit. I went looking about a year ago and every forum I found was either dead with no activity or were essentially political forums that happened to have writers on them (and very little productive/useful discussion of writing - some display of work, a small bit of discussion here and there).

If there’s a good one out there I’d be interested but I couldn’t really find one.
 
Brandon Sanderson is one of the greatest active fantasy writers.
He released a free course on his method for writing.


I definitely like his work. I think he did a great job finishing Robert Jordan's work with the Wheel of Time.
I thoroughly enjoyed the Stormlight Archive books by him, and was a good follow up to Wheel of Time.
I'm working my way through his Sci-fi, Skyward Series, The first 2 books and the novella's were amazing, I haven't liked the 4th book as much.
I will be watching those videos.
 
Brandon Sanderson is one of the greatest active fantasy writers.
He released a free course on his method for writing.



I've been watching his stuff, and reading through the course materials he's put out for the class. It seems like good stuff, and me being a fan of his work doesn't hurt.
 
My wife is a Christian Fiction writer, but I dont know if that will correspond with your genre.

Genre independent at this point, mostly looking for resources and good books on writing that have helped someone complete something. There are 100s of choices but it's really hard to figure out which are worth it from a 'this helped me organize and write my book' success perspective.
 
Have you thought about Royal Road?
A lot of popular self published books go there first.
Usual plan:
1.) Write good portion of book.
2.) Release chapters weekly or so
3.) Build up fans who will be interested in your book, and read comments, where people suggest edits, or discuss what they think will happen in future chapters.
4.) Consider rewriting future chapters with ideas from comments used for brainstorming.
5.) Publish on Amazon, get a audible deal for extra cash.

Basically, weaponize RR to act as free editors, brainstormers, and early customer base.
 
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Genre independent at this point, mostly looking for resources and good books on writing that have helped someone complete something. There are 100s of choices but it's really hard to figure out which are worth it from a 'this helped me organize and write my book' success perspective.
Gotcha bud, Ill get up with her and see if she has any recommendations. Getting started is a challenge!
 
Gotcha bud, Ill get up with her and see if she has any recommendations. Getting started is a challenge!

I've been reading the 'save the cat: writes a novel' book (which is what they're going to be using in the class I'm signed up for next month) and have a lot of material written and about 1/3 of the A story diagrammed out.

Sadly I'm stuck on the stupid A story and without knowing where it's going it's hard to work on the B stories.

Characters are 60% diagrammed out, and refining as I go.
 
What, and let someone read what I'm doing? That's crazy talk!

Honestly I doubt anyone is going to read what I'm writing, it's more for me to make the journey vs. any payoff at the end.

That reminds me of the Royal Road writers who get discouraged by troll reviewers and stop writing immediately. Go read YouTube comments for a while to get ready for high quality commentary on your writing you'll receive and toughen yourself up.
 
I've been reading the 'save the cat: writes a novel' book (which is what they're going to be using in the class I'm signed up for next month) and have a lot of material written and about 1/3 of the A story diagrammed out.

Sadly I'm stuck on the stupid A story and without knowing where it's going it's hard to work on the B stories.

Characters are 60% diagrammed out, and refining as I go.
Isekai, harem, reincarnated as window blinds in a dungeon. Make it happen.
 
That reminds me of the Royal Road writers who get discouraged by troll reviewers and stop writing immediately. Go read YouTube comments for a while to get ready for high quality commentary on your writing you'll receive and toughen yourself up.

worse than this place???
 
worse than this place???
Post Around and Find Out! :D

I taught basic essay writing at the local Commie College (night class, 1 class per regular semester) for 8 years. My first bit of advice to my students was to write - utter blather if need be, just get something on the page. It's a lot easier and far more productive to edit & rework something than it is to apply editing & reworking skilz to a blank page.

Another exercise was, once drafts were made, I put the students in groups and had them read each other's work. It was very tough for some of them, but it worked - I saw great improvements in subsequent drafts/final versions. More to the point, they felt they benefited from outside input, comments from their peers and not just the dude who got paid to critique their work.

Edit: Another benefit was each writer got to see how other writers did it. It got them out of their own heads.

So yeah - find a crew you're comfy ok, not terrified of - and seek commentary.

Sounds trite, I know, but many truisms spring from reality. That said, I'm no published author, of essays or fiction, so my advice is worth what ya payin' for it.
 
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They put out fiction every day
KJP can give you plenty of material
 
Send it to me for proof reading, etc.
I won't even tell anybody if it sucks!

I used to live next door to a screenwriter. He was pretty cool and let me read his screenplays, even ones that were secret-ish Hollywood projects.
I did story board drawings for him for a potential Dwight Yoakom video, that unfortunately wasn't ever made.
Also got to read through a couple variations of the screenplay for Frankenstein with Kenneth Branagh and Deniro. Was pretty cool. Just big stacks of 8.5x11's.
 
Scribophile is where I started.

It's a give/take sort of place. You critique other peoples writing to earn 'karma' and then post your own at the cost of karma for them to critique. Then you can do other things to earn extra Karma like competitions and such. It's got a nice friendly and active forum as well.

I started posting bits and pieces of West of Prehistoric there because I needed feedback. And then, through critiquing of myself and others, I learned more ways to improve my own writing.

But....

The problem I realized after about a half year there, is that I was getting pretty danged good but spending a lot of time helping others when really I needed to be working on my own. Between the required Critiques for Karma to post my 'chunks' of writing, and the very active forum, I was killing way to much time. So, I terminated my account and left it behind. Finished up my book, and started the long road of submitting to publishers and agents.

It's a good resource, just don't let it suck you into it.

And Keep Writing.
 
I started posting bits and pieces of West of Prehistoric there because I needed feedback. And then, through critiquing of myself and others, I learned more ways to improve my own writing.

But....

Right, don't let it take over your life and maybe you'll get something good out of it before the addiction takes over? Just a little heroin is a good thing? :)

Since posting this question though I've gone a different direction for a bit. I've signed up for a 5 day on-line (live) writers course, which starts tomorrow (!). It's got a damned facebook group component where you turn in your 'homework' and get it critiqued by the instructor and get to see what others are doing and their corrections, etc. A mini community of people you're in class with and alumni. We'll see how it goes. The wife thinks it's amusing after all these years of me refusing to play the facebook game I have to finally break down and join. It's for a good reason though, no desire to engage with that cesspool of nonsense.
 
And Keep Writing.

Follow-up sorta on topic, have you tried any of the AI writing tools?

I took a chapter I just finished the discovery draft on played around with 'sudowrite' on it, having it suggest rewrites. It would take my draft writing and come up with 3 or so 'rewrites' each of which individually was sorta wrong (not on genre, adding details I wouldn't want, etc) BUT using it as a guide I was able to quick rewrite my stuff into actual good story telling.

I subjected the wife to the before and after versions of it and even as a casual who hates my writing style and content she said the AI enhanced one was 100% more fluid and readable.

I know of at least 4 different AI tools, and mastering any would be an investment in time and money, but damn, sudowrite makes it easy to edit. Even at $120/year for the first tier I feel it's going to be worth it, cheaper than having an actual copy editor brush the big turds off my discovery draft.
 
Follow-up sorta on topic, have you tried any of the AI writing tools?

I took a chapter I just finished the discovery draft on played around with 'sudowrite' on it, having it suggest rewrites. It would take my draft writing and come up with 3 or so 'rewrites' each of which individually was sorta wrong (not on genre, adding details I wouldn't want, etc) BUT using it as a guide I was able to quick rewrite my stuff into actual good story telling.

I subjected the wife to the before and after versions of it and even as a casual who hates my writing style and content she said the AI enhanced one was 100% more fluid and readable.

I know of at least 4 different AI tools, and mastering any would be an investment in time and money, but damn, sudowrite makes it easy to edit. Even at $120/year for the first tier I feel it's going to be worth it, cheaper than having an actual copy editor brush the big turds off my discovery draft.

Can you tell one to simply fix spelling/grammar issues?
 
Can you tell one to simply fix spelling/grammar issues?

Most all I've seen offer that feature. Some offer plugins for word/google docs/scribner and a few others that let you use that editor and the AI inside (rather than exporting your writing to a web page editor like sudowrite does). I'm using Obsidian as my writing tool so it's not an option for me, but since I'm not letting sudowrite 100% rewrite my work I don't mind cut-n-pasting into their editor, doing to work and then taking what I want back out to Obsidian. At least not yet.
 
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