I agree. Too little info to make an informed opinion. Too much emotion, not enough data. What is the legal, title information, of the property? Any lease agreements, etc?There wasn't enough solid legal information in that article to form a real opinion. There was a lot of emotional pleas and a bare minimum
Agree. Very misleading article. Based on what it actually said versus what they were trying to incite in people, this is not a religious issue at all. It is a contract law issue. Albeit emotionally charged, but still a contract law issue.There wasn't enough solid legal information in that article to form a real opinion. There was a lot of emotional pleas and a bare minimum of facts.
While I understand the emotional side of keeping the churches they built and maintained for generations, did they in fact, sign legal documents giving those properties over to the church hierarchy? Did they receive compensation for that transfer? Did they receive church funds to make repairs etc?
None of that is apparent in the article, and my thought is probably because it doesn't go well with the emotional plea they are making.
If they knew the consequences of signing on then they have no one to blame but themselves really despite the emotions involved. There's an old adage about lying down with dogs and waking up with fleas.
Another good reason not to get involved in "religion".
It's no different in my view than organized politics. If you look at history, this is of no surprise as the two have been intertwined since the dawn of time.We should be shocked organized religion is just an excuse to amass money and power? I hardly think so.
WOW! That's why there were so many that went to the conservative Nigerian Anglican Church. I was a part of a small one in Apex for a couple years, it didn't take off and melded into two others.I recall being about six and the feminist dyke priest we had prayed for Saddam Hussein and not our troops during the Gulf War.
Did you mean "bureaucracy"?Another good reason not to get involved in "religion".
The problem with non-denoms (Baptist lite) is they have no accountability, if the Grand Puba leader goes rouge, the congregation suffers. A better biblical pattern is the local church has multiple elders/leaders that work with a Presbytery of church's elders, reason through decisions together, and hold one another accountable. The churches are still their own bodies with their own property. I've seen a church left leaderless in VA and the elders of 6 surrounding churches rotated to help fill the void, heal the wounds, and help find and raise up local leadership. The congregation with its property is still intact ten years later.This is one reason I think we will continue to see a rise in Nondenominational churches. The money stays local. National offices are becoming at odds with what the mainstream local church believes and when the locals don't like it, they are told to abandon all the property that they personally built locally and don't let the door hit you on the way out.
There wasn't enough solid legal information in that article to form a real opinion. There was a lot of emotional pleas and a bare minimum of facts.
While I understand the emotional side of keeping the churches they built and maintained for generations, did they in fact, sign legal documents giving those properties over to the church hierarchy? Did they receive compensation for that transfer? Did they receive church funds to make repairs etc?
None of that is apparent in the article, and my thought is probably because it doesn't go well with the emotional plea they are making.
If they knew the consequences of signing on then they have no one to blame but themselves really despite the emotions involved. There's an old adage about lying down with dogs and waking up with fleas.
The problem with non-denoms (Baptist lite) is they have no accountability, if the Grand Puba leader goes rouge, the congregation suffers. A better biblical pattern is the local church has multiple elders/leaders that work with a Presbytery of church's elders, reason through decisions together, and hold one another accountable. The churches are still their own bodies with their own property. I've seen a church left leaderless in VA and the elders of 6 surrounding churches rotated to help fill the void, heal the wounds, and help find and raise up local leadership. The congregation with its property is still intact ten years later.
I couldn't resist-
Man made "religion".Did you mean "bureaucracy"?