This is what my brother suggested and I asked about distance shooting he said he has sussesfully engaged targets out to 600 meters with one on a M4.Aimpoint. Rock solid and proven with a 5 year battery life. While it's on. Buy once, cry once.
This is what my brother suggested and I asked about distance shooting he said he has engaged targets out to 600 meter with one on a M4.
I don't shoot over 60 yards in most cases but I want to make it to 300yds max. My brother is talking about shooting people at 600 if Taliban count as people. I'm talking about fun at 300 and hunting out to 100.I am not a great shooter by any means and I can make good hits at 200' easily. First time trying. I was a little off at 300, but didn't spend much time at that distance. I think if you are planning on shooting 600 you should get a scope. You may be able to make hits, but it isn't really the right tool for the job. I just moved my Aimpoint to my AR pistol for shorter distance shooting, and put a 1-4 on my carbine.
Another vote for the TRS-25, or PA micro. Unless you plan on falling down mountainsides with your rifle in combat, they will do just fine.I own a T2 and 3 Bushnell TRS-25s.
If you are just starting out a $45 TRS is hard to beat. 11 brightens levels, super bright dot if needed. Good battery life. Good customer support as warranty.
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In my experience, for what its worth...
Tier 1: AimPoint is the standard. Expensive, but worth it. Will last longer than you.
Tier 2: Primary Arms, Holosun, Vortex. $100-200 range. Good for casual to moderate use. Wouldn't want to be dropped into a warzone with one, but don't feel unarmed with it either.
Tier 3: Bushnell TRS25: Sub $100. Good for casual use and plinking.
Tier 4: Crap you get at gunshows for $25 bucks...
My personal choice is usually in Tier 2, as I get a lot of bank for my buck. I have nice Primary Arms red dots on 2 of my ARs and 1 Holosun on an AR pistol all for less than an Aimpoint would cost me. Not saying the Aimpoint isn't superior by any means.
I looked at them all. Decided for the money value, toughness, and 3 plus years of the red dot continuously on, I would go with the Aimpoint PRO (patrol rifle optic). I hate push button red dots. I want the dial to be easy and clean to increase intensity but I never turn it off and change the battery every three years. Trijicon is nice but I'm not hunting down Jihad warriors. I'm good to 300 yards with the PRO. I have two of these.
Ima agree with this absolutely. I have a half dozen red dots that cost under $50. Since I ain't goin to the furrin places and be under crazy stress, these work as good as my Aimpoint. FOR MY USE.The Aimpoint PRO and Trijicon MRO are the best <$500 red dot sights on the market.
Because I am almost completely clueless...what functionality/quality is increased by going up the tiers?
Build quality primarily. There was an AimPoint (if I remember the story correctly) that survived a house fire. Rifle melted, safe failed. But the AimPoint still came on when is button was pressed.
Some of the lower end aren't built quite a strong and you may experience blurry dots, dots that don't stay zeroed under use, mounts that loosen over time, and battery life differences. Its kinda like comparing a Rock Island 1911 to a Colt 1911 to a Les Bear. The Rock Island is going to be perfectly fine for almost any use we could come up with, but there is no doubt the Colt and Les Bear have superior materials and manufacturing.
Personally, that's why I have stayed in the 2nd tier (which is just my ranking mind you). Their cost/performance is in line with my personal needs and pocket book.
Thanks for that. I have been playing with a TRS-25 that I got as an Amazon deal for $25 just to see if I like the idea more than a scope. Because of range/time limitations I have only been shooting at 25 yards so I can't really judge how well it holds zero, etc. etc.
Until I have expanded range options at my ready disposal, it sounds like I can hold off on upgrading.
Ive gone out to 400 yards with a Primary Arms...not consistent, but I have made contact. In my limited opinion, red dots excel at the ranges up to about 100 yards. Again, not a professional, but I have found them primarily meant for up close social work where precision is "center of mass" not "Center of second button on collar".
Fun and hunting. Price range is 400.00 max. I really don't want to spend more than two but that's because I'm cheap.We'd call it 'center of pie plate.' Same same.
@Ferrisfan , you will likely run into issues with it keeping a zero; and they are not forgiving with rough handling or foul weather. If these things don't bother you and it works for what you need, go for it.
@Mightyox04 , at the distances you shoot, a RDS if fine. You need to ask yourself, 1) why do you want one (i.e., HD/SD, range toy, hunting, etc.), and 2) what is your price range.
Fun and hunting. Price range is 400.00 max. I really don't want to spend more than two but that's because I'm cheap.
How are your eyes? If you're young and have good eyesight you have your answer.
If astigmatism is part of the equation then add the Vortex Spitfire or some other etched prism sight to the list.
for about the same money as a mid-range red dot you get:
- excellent image quality
- no starburst/smudge/doubling effect
- black etched reticle is visible even when the unit is off or battery is dead.
- available in 1x, 3x and i think 5x fixed
I'm looking for a red dot style sight for my AR.