Haven't even gotten my press set up yet but went ahead and bought the Frankford tumbler. I figure buy once cry once. Can't wait to get the stand for my press so I can deprime and start testing it all out.
Well Dave if you made the plunge, I guess I am also.Haven't even gotten my press set up yet but went ahead and bought the Frankford tumbler. I figure buy once cry once. Can't wait to get the stand for my press so I can deprime and start testing it all out.
Well Dave if you made the plunge, I guess I am also.
Do the pins chew up the case mouths? I bought some cleaned brass and the mouths were all nicked up. I saw evidence of shells of some sort (walnut maybe).
Without ss pins/with ss pins tumbled for 1.5 hrs dawn-lemishine with hot water
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Results without
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Results with
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I cant tell a difference
Hey, I got something that works this well now, why should I even think about changing?Wow!
I suspect you will get them as clean and maybe even as shiny with Dawn, but the difference will be seen later. Often, the Dawn washed brass would tarnish. I also noticed a problem with brass tending to stick to the expander (powder funnel on Dillon). Those problems went away with the Wash-n-wax.
For those using the armor all alternative to dawn, is the quantity the same? Just a squirt of wash and wax?Yesterday I posted in the "What Did You Do In The Loading Room Today," bragging on Toprudder's suggestion to use ArmorAll Wash & Wax instead of Dawn dish washing detergent in the tumbler drum. I reported that the first time I tried it, I wasn't all that excited, but THIS time, I was VERY pleased! I posted pictures of yesterday's brass.
Last night I put the new brass with the previous batch, and I now have 300 empty cases of 9 mm ready to load. I separate my brass into "sets" of 100 rounds, all of the same brand. I have 13 "sets" of 9 mm, each with 100 rounds in each "set," and rotate through them, shooting and reloading. I wrote a database in "Access" to keep track of each set.
My first attempt at using ArmorAll Wash & Wax was on set 907 (9 mm, set 07). Yesterday I tumbled sets 908 & 909. Here's pictures to show the difference. You decide for yourself.
Both "sets" are the EXACT SAME brass type - Winchester "White-Box, 9 mm Luger." The difference was, THIS time I used water as HOT as our faucet could muster. Everything was EXACTLY the same, except for the temperature of the water. Both batches used the ArmorAll Wash & Wax, SS pins, Lemishine, and both batches were tumbled in the same tumbler & drum for 90 minutes.
The "card" behind each batch is the "report" I generated with the database to accompany each "set" throughout it's "life" of that individual reload. The next time that "set" is reloaded, a new tag will be printed, with the "Times Fired" count incremented by one, and all the details of THAT reload will be included. I can also print a report for each "Set" giving the details of every time it was reloaded.
I just wanted y'all to see the difference that the water temperature made. In all fairness, I should probably tumble the next "set" with Dawn and HOT water.
BTW, Thanks again to Toprudder for the suggestion!
For those using the armor all alternative to dawn, is the quantity the same? Just a squirt of wash and wax?
Hey, I got something that works this well now, why should I even think about changing?
Hmmm...may have to try that. I'd planned on using a dollop instead.That's all I used. It's a precise "squeeze" though...
Hmmm...may have to try that. I'd planned on using a dollop instead.