There goes the new Dune film

So, I take it the lead choice isn't in character? Guess I'm not familiar with her...

As long as he isn’t too feminine he’s actually a better choice than the original.

In the book he’s like 15. The lead was a hulking man of about 21 in the original.
 
LOL! Every damn time I watch it I wonder WTF they were thinking!! Or maybe they were just high as F and thought it would be funny.
A friend of mine once observed it looked like some "old, chewed-up vagina". I didn't know whether to laugh or throw up. :p

Anytime someone describes that part as looking like a punched lasagna I think of this image.
 
I read the books and lived them.

YES, books plural. There was the original book and 5 sequels by Frank Herbert and over a dozen more Dune books by Frank's son Brian Herbert.

I have some concern the movie may be eaten up with social justice junk as a black woman is playing Imperial Planetologist Liet-Kynes. In the book, Liet-Kynes was a man who married a Fremen woman and was the father of Chani, who was Paul's concubine.
 
Now you guys got me watching Dune stuff on the gulag's youtube. Anyone watched this guy and his thoughts on the series? He has a bunch of them. Interesting ideas about the saga (books, movies, series, etc.)
Some very interesting comments and discussions in the comments too.



 
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Opinion: Here we go with another remake. Movie makers don't really care if its any good as long as they can get enough people to pay to watch it and make money. Its all about the MONEY.

With all the books and all the history, the best they can come up with is a Remake of a Remake. How Sad.
 
Opinion: Here we go with another remake. Movie makers don't really care if its any good as long as they can get enough people to pay to watch it and make money. Its all about the MONEY.
With all the books and all the history, the best they can come up with is a Remake of a Remake. How Sad.

The whole project is a ghola made up in an Bene Theilaxu axlotl (or axolotl var. spelling) tank. :rolleyes:
 
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I have just folded space from CSC.

Many new commenters at CSC.
 
All those new gun owners we keep hearing about that don't know any better?

It's a line from the book and film.

I do like the story and the lore behind it. It's just too big to fit into a single movie without cutting out a lot of stuff. I can see a couple of films or three doing a better job though. It's not an easy story to tell, as many keep saying.

I do hope it does well!
 
It's a line from the book and film.

I do like the story and the lore behind it. It's just too big to fit into a single movie without cutting out a lot of stuff. I can see a couple of films or three doing a better job though. It's not an easy story to tell, as many keep saying.

I do hope it does well!
lol, yes I remember the line. I thought maybe you really did notice more folks at the old crackhouse. ;)
 
So I watched the new Dune film last night and thought it was pretty good. Excellent special effects, all of it just a little different than I expected which was a good idea to differentiate from past movie/TV interpretations of this book.

They didn't get as far into the story as I expected, basically to the point where Paul Atreides and his mom Lady Jessica move in with the Freman.

I'm a little torn on the actor who plays Paul being a good fit, but he's pretty young and given they won't start shooting the next parts of this for a year he'll grow into his role over the next 10 years of sequels (assuming this does well financially and they get green-lit). EDIT maybe not, apparently he's 25!

The other casting was good and some big names with Oscar Isaac (Poe Dameron from Star Wars) as Count Leo Atredes, Rebecca Ferguson (Ilsa from Mission Impossible movies) as the hot mom, Jason Momoa (Aquaman) as Duncan, Josh Brolin as Gurney, Zendaya (MJ from Spiderman) as Chani, Javier Bardem as Stilgar, Dave Bautista as Rabban and others you'd recognize.
 
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I can't get into Dune. At all.

Never watched any of the shows, couldn't get past the cover of the book.
 
2021 Dune. I laughed. I cried. (Not really) and wasted a couple hrs of my life. 1984 Lynch Dune was on last night. PQ was terrible and a stereo sound track. Still liked it much better. Blu ray ultra mega HD 4K (and some other capital letters) coming in December for $35 bucks. Would like to see it but not buy it.
 
So my take.

They did a scene for scene remake, except it was more woke (racially diverse). And even though the CGI was better they somehow made the story less exciting, the bad guys less menacing and the sandworms less believable.

Well at least they made Paul less manly and more metrosexual. So it’s got that going for it.

Considering the fact that a 2.5 hour movie that stopped halfway through the story of the original movie and yet somehow left me feeling like they didn’t explain enough they should just retitle this “Feminine boy gets sand in his mangina at the start of an interracial love affair”.

#disappointed #areyoukiddingme
#atleasttherewasnotoxicmasculinity
 
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So my take.

They did a scene for scene remake, except it was more woke (racially diverse). And even though the CGI was better they somehow made the story less exciting, the bad guys less menacing and the sandworms less believable.

Well at least they made Paul less manly and more metrosexual. So it’s got that going for it.

Considering the fact that a 2.5 hour movie that stopped halfway through the story of the original movie and yet somehow left me feeling like they didn’t explain enough they should just retitle this “Feminine boy gets sand in his mangina at the start of an interracial love affair”.

#disappointed #areyoukiddingme
#atleasttherewasnotoxicmasculinity


Thank you. I won’t bother with it, now.

The Sci-Fi mini-series was excellent, as film adaptations of the book go. I’ll rewatch it.
 
I'm a little torn on the actor who plays Paul being a good fit, but he's pretty young and given maybe not, apparently he's 25!
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Recall that Ralph Maccio was 24 when he played the high school kid.
Hollywood loves short men that can play teenagers until they are 30.
They also like very young looking women that are over 18 to play fake sex scenes of middle schoolers.


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Never watched the old movie or read the books. The action scenes were good the story was crap. Aquaman was the best part of the movie.
You really should give the original a watch. If you didn’t absolutely hate this version you should love the original.
 

Timothee Chalamet is just a total-miscast, a waifish and effeminate boy who softly emotes his way through every scene, conveying nothing that is likable or admirable and certainly not showing the growth from competent aristocrat to messiah that the book portrays. That may be the problem with the adaptation, and perhaps director Denis Villeneuve wanted his version of Paul to be such, but even within the movie, the limp-wristed and passive portrayal of Paul is dissonant with what Paul does. He’s an expert in combat, trained since boyhood, and he’s also been trained in sorcery, but the boy on screen seems incapable of either of these right up until he does them.
 
So my take.

They did a scene for scene remake, except it was more woke (racially diverse). And even though the CGI was better they somehow made the story less exciting, the bad guys less menacing and the sandworms less believable.

Well at least they made Paul less manly and more metrosexual. So it’s got that going for it.

Considering the fact that a 2.5 hour movie that stopped halfway through the story of the original movie and yet somehow left me feeling like they didn’t explain enough they should just retitle this “Feminine boy gets sand in his mangina at the start of an interracial love affair”.

#disappointed #areyoukiddingme
#atleasttherewasnotoxicmasculinity
I actually thought the Sardukar from the Lynch movie worked really well despite being nothing like the ones in the books.
 
I saw it yesterday and liked it. The movie had a strong element of European colonization and Islam resistance. The locals even referred to the young man as the Mahdi or 'rightly guided one' in Arabic
 
I really enjoyed it as well.

I think it is one of the most faithful book adaptations out there. Did I love the casting choice for Paul? Not really. But the rest of the cast was good enough to make up for his short comings.

The only thing I did not like was how LOUD the movie was. Although I’m sure that is just the theater I was in. I guess it’s just the way they show movies now (this was my first time in a theater since 2016). The special effects were so loud it was actually distracting. I was shocked that my ears weren’t bleeding by the time I got out of there.

I’ll definitely be buying this one on Blu-ray so I can see it again at a more reasonable volume level. Yeah, yeah, I know, I’m old.
 
I saw it yesterday and liked it. The movie had a strong element of European colonization and Islam resistance. The locals even referred to the young man as the Mahdi or 'rightly guided one' in Arabic
Religion is pretty complicated in Dune, it's not really resistance of Islam as much as it's pretty much all of old earths major religions were all incorporated together into one big religion that also included the basics of the Butlerian jihad against the thinking machines. Religion wasn't as much belief in a single god but a way to keep humanity more of on the same page with one another and sharing a basic set of social norms. Who sections of the universe were agnostic, the mentats, the spacing guild, even the ruling classes. The bene gesserit actually manipulated religions on the worlds to keep themselves in power and to steer humanity toward the goals they had. Then you had Paul, who'll declare himself the god emperor of dune and let lose a jihad that will scorch hundreds of worlds and lead to the biggest migration in history of people fleeing his empire and religion (his plan all along was to expand humanity to the additional worlds to keep us from being wiped out).
They first movie was as close to the original novel as any I've seen, I'll watch the new adaptation but I know I wont like it as much.

If you've never read the books, try it, they're great, the prequels, house books and sequel books his son wrote do a good job of expanding the history of the universe based off his dads notes as well as moving the story to a conclusion.
 
Religion is pretty complicated in Dune, it's not really resistance of Islam as much as it's pretty much all of old earths major religions were all incorporated together into one big religion that also included the basics of the Butlerian jihad against the thinking machines. Religion wasn't as much belief in a single god but a way to keep humanity more of on the same page with one another and sharing a basic set of social norms. Who sections of the universe were agnostic, the mentats, the spacing guild, even the ruling classes. The bene gesserit actually manipulated religions on the worlds to keep themselves in power and to steer humanity toward the goals they had. Then you had Paul, who'll declare himself the god emperor of dune and let lose a jihad that will scorch hundreds of worlds and lead to the biggest migration in history of people fleeing his empire and religion (his plan all along was to expand humanity to the additional worlds to keep us from being wiped out).
They first movie was as close to the original novel as any I've seen, I'll watch the new adaptation but I know I wont like it as much.

If you've never read the books, try it, they're great, the prequels, house books and sequel books his son wrote do a good job of expanding the history of the universe based off his dads notes as well as moving the story to a conclusion.
I tried reading Dune decades ago and didn't get far in it.
 
this review has more fun, goofy truth, and insight
than any other i have seen, including the actual movie....

 
I’m 30 min in, stopped to buy a rifle, and going back.

So far my take away is that the actor playing Paul has the same speech coach as Nicholas Cage.

I read the books in the early to mid 1970’s, a decade of classic science fiction.
 
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