What Do You Suspect? A 900 Round Ammo Can … M855A1?

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Just got an email from a friend who’s been offered a 900 round ammo can (LC stenciled with 2018 mfg date etc) of M855A1 in the 10 round stripper clip 3 per box setup (he verified the rounds in the can were type A1) at a killer deal. I have only seen a couple of the cans but never full. I am guessing this one maybe “fell of a truck” or walked out a back door. He wants to split it because while it’s a killer deal it still ain’t cheap. I immediately shot back an email nope and my suspicions. I just can’t stand the idea of our tax dollars being “misappropriated for personal use” … am I being stupid?
 
NCFubar said:
Just got an email from a friend who’s been offered a 900 round ammo can (LC stenciled with 2018 mfg date etc) of M855A1 in the 10 round stripper clip 3 per box setup (he verified the rounds in the can were type A1) at a killer deal. I have only seen a couple of the cans but never full. I am guessing this one maybe “fell of a truck” or walked out a back door. He wants to split it because while it’s a killer deal it still ain’t cheap. I immediately shot back an email nope and my suspicions. I just can’t stand the idea of our tax dollars being “misappropriated for personal use” … am I being stupid?
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Do you prefer the military pay a company to destroy what your tax dollars bought?
 
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Even if I had (the impossible) assurance that it was totally risk free, I’m just not interested in possibly doing business with a thief. Directly or indirectly.
 
NCFubar said:
I can see your point. What company around Spring Hill would do that?
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My point is that the taxpayer funded ammo is destroyed if it isn’t used. I think that policy change happened under the Clinton admin. Before that, it would be sold as surplus. So, something falling off a truck doesn’t cost taxpayers what you would think. It might even save them a little disposal cost coin in some cases.

And, back several years ago, a small quantity of A1 did get surplused by accident. Unlikely what you saw is part of that lot.

Follow your conscience, but there are very few white hats when it comes to military materiel that we pay for. The whole thing is a racket.
 
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cubrock said:
My point is that the taxpayer funded ammo is destroyed if it isn’t used. I think that policy change happened under the Clinton admin. Before that, it would be sold as surplus. So, something falling off a truck does t cost taxpayers what you would think. It might even save them a little disposal cost coin in some cases.

And, back several years ago, a small quantity of A1 did get surpluses by accident. Unlikely what you saw is part of that lot.

Follow your conscience, but there are very few white hats when it comes to military materiel that we pay for. The whole thing is a racket.
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Yeah … he wanted $1 per round and I know the military contracts are way less than that. I’ve seen it $2.50-$3.00 per in shops which is to me seems to be the “I can’t normally get it price” to many people. That crazy pricing means things walk to often.
 
BatteryOaksBilly said:
Cousin Jerry's son is a Major in the Army [after having been in the Marines for 6 years]. He tells horror stories of things [food, tools, ammo and other] being thrown overboard when ships come in from cruises. Even small machinery.......any of you Navy folks that can verify this???
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My current boss is a retired LtCmdr and he talked of coming into Norfolk on one of the carriers and chunking tredmills, stair climbers, etc from the workout facilities overboard as it was time for "new" in the contract. They still worked fine. There were a lot of other items but the workout stuff is what I remember him saying.
 
BatteryOaksBilly said:
Cousin Jerry's son is a Major in the Army [after having been in the Marines for 6 years]. He tells horror stories of things [food, tools, ammo and other] being thrown overboard when ships come in from cruises. Even small machinery.......any of you Navy folks that can verify this???
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You would not believe the “contraband” dumping back in the 80’s and early 90’s that the Master Chiefs would scare up … hell even LT’s we’re known to toss the occasional “item” over the side. Joke was some locals knew this and would keep an ear out for returning ships and have their dive gear ready for a “salvaging operation” as soon as they could sneak in.

The funnier things where the certain Army and USMC sergeants who “knew things” and had “creative storage” ideas. They however seemed to be more “friendly skies” and knew how to have people looking the other way when things landed. There were a couple who could lay dimes welding and age it to not look brand new … they’s slip stuff in or out of places like Houdini. Legend had it one actually smuggled vintage car back somehow for a very high ranking person … you hear crazy stuff like but it does how some basis to begin.
 
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OP, it's almost definitely stolen... if you're coming here to clear your conscience, good luck lol. I've had a couple soldiers offer me small quantities of m855a1 and even some m80a1 or something similar. A mag here and mag there etc... it's pretty common and a couple years ago they were trying to get 2-3$ a round for the m855a1. I'm not going to get into an ethical dilemma exercise but you think a couple hundred dollars of ammo is worse than a couple hundred trillion... don't do it.

I'm not sure how I feel about m855a1. Seems to destroy feed ramps and is hard on guns but supposedly will defeat a lot of body armor w/ a 14.5" barrel. I'm sure you could easily unload it for $1 round if you offered it up. Maybe a little more but sell it cheap and it would disappear in a day. That large of an amount is probably just leftover from ... something.
 
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I've never seen many retired military and DoD civilian workers who didn't have a shed or a shop full of government tools and other "things".
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I had a Base Marshal show up at my shop in Matthew's from Bragg.
He was hunting down armory parts and ammo missing from a guy on Family Emergency Leave that I had hired a month before the Marshal showed up. That was one pissed off guy. I gave the address I had on the application.
About 5 days before all this transpired the guy showed up on Monday with a pickup loaded with "Stuff" and asked to store it in my back area which I said hell no and btw you're fired, leave.
Not sure of the outcome, he did go back and finished his contract.
I assume he ratted on Everyone that touched the stuff...
 
The SOB didn’t have the funds available right then so he passed on it … 2 days later the guy came back at 75¢ per round … AND had a couple GI mags with the 855A1 redesigned followers.
 
for a $1 a round which is what I think I read you can buy that ammo or similar on the open market without the headache or doubt

Just buy some of the IMI RazorCore 77g OTM and call it a day
 
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AB57 M885A1 comes in two M2A1 cans of 840 rds each if on strippers/bandoleers/magazine filler (1680 rds per wire bound wooden crate) This is intended for combat zones.
AB58 M885A1 comes in two M2A1 cans of 900 rds each if on strippers/fiberboard box (1800 rds per wire bound wooden crate) This is loaded for training/range use. No Stripper clip guides packed


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