What's your 9mm magazine loadout?

BatteryOaksBilly said:
The last figure I saw on this showed that high80% of all rounds fired by LEs were Air Balls! Which is worse a Miss or the Possibility of over penetration? Your gun was designed to run on BALL. Why introduce a possible problem?
Handguns for protection are Pitiful. Their asset is portability. You MUST get in to the "pump" or "electrics" to stop the problem. PLACEMENT and PENETRATION....We must all seek our Own salvation.
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You are the Confucius and Socrates of all guns matters sir. Your wisdom is vast. Your knowledge great.
 
BatteryOaksBilly said:
Be very careful what you ask @Michael458 for. This is The definitive info on 9mm solids.

Oh and JT...just to make sure you read ALL of that...there Will be a quiz!!!!!!!!!!
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In all probability, I will fail. This was all new information for me, and I think I absorbed the nut of the lesson, but I've been spectacularly wrong before.
 
BatteryOaksBilly said:
147 FMJFP at 1,200 FPS. All 9s loaded with this.
230 FMJ Ball. All .45s loaded with this.
200 FMJ Ball. All 10mms
180 FMJ Ball. All .40s
100 Ball. Underwood All .380s loaded with this.
Ball ammo for .25s and .32s always.

Placement and Penetration...Nothing else counts in Handguns.

Clintism: Handguns poke holes In people-Rifles poke hole Through people-Shotguns put Shit on the wall.
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Thank you for reminding me of a lesson learned long ago, but shoved to the back of my mind. I do know better.
 
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Geezer said:
Easy! He prefers burly to stocky.
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Thank you -- I stand corrected -- I was relying on memory for his self-description. I have corrected the official transcript.
 
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Jerzsubbie said:
I’m familiar with the statistics around defensive and police shootings. Agreed, most shots are misses, but how would FMJ help with accuracy?? We choose our ammo with the assumption that we’ll make the shot that counts.


This is why we test until we’re comfortable with the reliability. Thankfully modern HP ammo is extremely reliable, has gone through plenty of R&D, has been subjected to FBI and other independent testing, and millions of HP rounds have been fired through pistols both in LE and consumer hands. I don’t think there is a strong argument for ball > HP when it comes to reliability of functioning.


Again, agreed, pistols are the least capable weapons for SD but that was the question posed here and none of us are carrying long guns on our back to the grocery store. (No, that’s not challenge to anyone haha)
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Every thing that is man made can fail.I have had every brand of handgun that I've owned have miss feeds on jhp ammo. Some miss feeds with fmj.
.Brand new Colt 1911 would not feed 230 grain ball ammo . Ran like a champ on 180 gr federal jhp.Many guns a finiky about ammo. That's why we shoot several hundred rounds thru a new gun to see what it likes and to make sure it's 100% reliable before we carry it for protection. I personally carry Speer Gold Dots in my edc pistols because it's furnished by my department .When practicing I shoot ball ammo. I can't afford to go to the range and shoot up ammo that costs $25 to $35 a box .Most 9mm ball is under $10..
 
Have gun-will travel said:
.When practicing I shoot ball ammo. I can't afford to go to the range and shoot up ammo that costs $25 to $35 a box .Most 9mm ball is under $10..
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My point exactly! I practice with ball ammo and carry ball ammo for that very reason. Why practice with something and carry something else that may shoot entirely different?
 
Hammer21b said:
My point exactly! I practice with ball ammo and carry ball ammo for that very reason. Why practice with something and carry something else that may shoot entirely different?
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During our annual qualifications we shoot ball ammo for warm up and it has same point of aim ,point of impact as our duty ammo
 
Have gun-will travel said:
During our annual qualifications we shoot ball ammo for warm up and it has same point of aim ,point of impact as our duty ammo
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Depending on the ammo and range, that’s not always the case.
 
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