Where my runners at?

RetiredUSNChief said:
What are the major differences between the different models?

I see Aftershokz has the OpenMove, OpenRun, OpenRun Pro and OpenSwim. These don't appear to have microphone pickup. I see two versions with microphones.

I wouldn't mind getting a set, but after having bought my Sony headset a year ago, I rather enjoy the ability to automatically connect and talk to incoming calls on my phone when I'm listening to audio books, music, etc. Do the four listed above have that ability, or would I have to get one of the two Open Comm sets?
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OpenRun and OpenRun Pro (and maybe other models) do have mics. The OpenRun Pro is the newest model and seems to have some slight improvements to battery life and charge time, and 9th gen vs. 8th gen bone conduction technology, whatever that means. I've used the microphone a few times for calls but I don't know how it sounds to folks on the other end compared, say, to my Bose headphones that I usually use in meetings.

You can compare models on the website. Keep clicking the "view more" button at the bottom of the comparison page to go deeper into the specs.
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I have the model called Titanium, my wife has the successor product called Air. Seems both have been superseded. Ours both have mics though. My wife uses her set for both business and personal calls. If she kills the battery through a heavy talk day she steals my set.
 
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I'm looking mostly at the OpenRun, but trying to see if there's anything significant enough to justify the higher cost of the OpenRun Pro. Fifty bucks is fifty bucks, you know!

The difference in battery life from 8 hours to 10 isn't significant enough for me. My Sony headset is supposed to be 6 hours, and I go days between charging.

I'm not sure the difference between 8th and 9th generation bone conduction tech or PremiumPitch2.0+ and SHOKZ TurboPitch will make any difference to me, either. They sound like buzz words for "newer tech that you can't hear the difference in" to me. 😉
 
Frack N Cylons said:
I wanted to change it up a little so I ran 3 minutes on 1 minute off. I pushed at as quick a pace as I felt I could maintain for 3 minutes then walked briskly for 1 minutes.

Strangely enough I did my fastest 1km, fastest mile, and fastest 5k. 🤷‍♂️View attachment 569471
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I think it's been discussed, Jeff Galloway really endorses this method and improved his marathon times doing run-walk. I have done it mid-distance, chopped some time off, but definitely felt better.
 
Chuckman said:
I think it's been discussed, Jeff Galloway really endorses this method and improved his marathon times doing run-walk. I have done it mid-distance, chopped some time off, but definitely felt better.
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Yes I do recall that discussion from my C25K thread. I was in survival mode at the time and didn't know what I didn't know. Some of the concepts you brought up earlier are starting to gel.
 
Frack N Cylons said:
Yes I do recall that discussion from my C25K thread. I was in survival mode at the time and didn't know what I didn't know. Some of the concepts you brought up earlier are starting to gel.
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It's all an education, and definitely a continuum. I am not a real runner like a lot of people, and a lot of what I know I learned after making a lot of mistakes.
 
It looks like Sundays are becoming my slow but steady distance days. I just ran at a leisurely pace but beat my furthest distance by about a half mile.

It felt like I could have gone a good bit further but I don't want to push it. I think it was one of the videos chuckman posted to keep the increases to 10% a week or less and that feels like a good rule of thumb.

Not once did I feel winded or like my heart was overworked. It was a slow run, but I'm taking that as a big win.
 
Weeeelllllllll,.... a bout of COVID really kicked my ass a couple of weeks ago.

I started to get back into the swing of things and then about a half mile into a run last week, I had a sharp pain in my lower leg and have had a limp since.

The Gun Run is coming up in 2 weeks. 😭
 
Frack N Cylons said:
The injury seems to be worsening. I am having trouble walking at all at this point. Stairs or anything approaching a jog are out. I have an appt with my GP Monday so we’ll see. I’m guessing stress fracture in the fibula. 😕
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Is the pain in the front, on your shin, or in the back by the calf? On the front, I would also guess stress fracture (if it's north or south of a joint); in the back, I am think achilles.
 
There is a definite tender area on the out side of the leg about 4 inches below the knee. This is where the majority of the soreness is and when I use the leg wrong my brain says nope and that area floods with pain.

I also some pain down near the ankle wrapping around the back to the outside. I don't know what that means though.

I'm meeting with my GP in an hour or so.
 
Frack N Cylons said:
There is a definite tender area on the out side of the leg about 4 inches below the knee. This is where the majority of the soreness is and when I use the leg wrong my brain says nope and that area floods with pain.

I also some pain down near the ankle wrapping around the back to the outside. I don't know what that means though.

I'm meeting with my GP in an hour or so.
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Let us know what he says!
 
Doc felt confident the bone is fine and this is some bruising/tearing in the muscle. We went with a steroid that I've been successful with in the past and then wait and see.

Stretching and heat/ice when appropriate.

He said I'd be a big dummy to do the gun run this weekend. Depending on how I feel later this week I may just be that dummy, even if I have to walk it.
 
Frack N Cylons said:
Today was my first reattempt after the injury. I stretched for a LONG time before running because I didn't want to repeat that situation.

Fitness definitely takes the stairs up and the elevator down. I don't quite feel like I've started over, but close.
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Haven’t run since November, mostly because of work & life. I’m scared to try again.
 
I just started back running. Every Spring is a struggle but this year has been harder than any other for me, perhaps due to age or having taken a longer time off due to injury. You have to trust that it'll get better, and just go slow and steady for some weeks -- don't rush to increase pace or miles. I think there's a lot going on as you get back to running with adaptation at all levels from mitochondria to organs/bones/muscles/etc. Some days I'm limited by my joints, other days it's cardiovascular, other days I'm just wiped and need a rest day. But every year I'm amazed at the adaptation that takes place, and how unrelated health issues seem to melt away as I get back to running. So stick with it, take it slow, be patient, and enjoy the results when they come!
 
Well I didn't actually run any of it because it was a muddy mess, but I completed my first Spartan Race yesterday - the Tri-State race in NJ. 3.9 miles, 1700 ft of elevation going up and down the ski slopes, obstacles, and TONS of mud. The race took me over 2 hours.

I failed all of the monkey bar/swinging/rope climbing obstacles, but I didn't expect to pass those in even good conditions. I did successfully complete most of the other obstacles including the atlas stone and sandbag carries and the hercules hoist. All those were even heavier than normal with the rain and mud. And the carries were made even more difficult trying not to slip.

My legs are so sore and my ankle is recovering from twisting it halfway thru. I can't say that this one was fun. But I feel accomplished after completing it.
 
After my February injury, I am back into it for 3 days a week. Slowly but surely, I am starting to see progress again, and I want to keep it up.

I've also started getting back into weights. I've found a KISS program that I like that is also 3 days a week.

So..... How do I do this?

I'm thinking I may actually be best off going for runs and then hitting the gym directly after. The trails I run are actually behind the gym so that would logistically make sense.

This plan would also give me true recovery days.
 
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Frack N Cylons said:
After my February injury, I am back into it for 3 days a week. Slowly but surely, I am starting to see progress again, and I want to keep it up.

I've also started getting back into weights. I've found a KISS program that I like that is also 3 days a week.

So..... How do I do this?

I'm thinking I may actually be best off going for runs and then hitting the gym directly after. The trails I run are actually behind the gym so that would logistically make sense.

This plan would also give me true recovery days.
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Are you lifting for strength, endurance, or hypertrophy? I also like to run and lift, most of the research I have done indicates you should run after lifting to maximize hypertrophy, and I would think that you would get more power in your lifts if your muscles glycogen stores weren’t depleted by your run.
 
I did a 10k trail race yesterday. It was OK, but not great. I woke up Saturday with a cold and still had it on race day. I ended up barely beating my time from last year with a finish of an hour and 13 minutes. Breathing with the cold was terrible the entire race, I already have asthma and the cold made it so much worse. By the end I was completely drained and could barely make it up the last hill (there was 660 ft elevation gain for the race). I guess I should feel pretty good about beating my time last year while having a cold but I was really hoping to do a lot better.
 
I dare say things are progressing. I'm still slow but my runs seem to be averaging just shy of 3 miles. The limiting factor isn't my legs or lungs but time.

Lifting after running just isn't going to work, I'm going to have to rethink that whole thing.

I think I want a fanny pack of some sort as well. Open to recommendations. I've looked at the HPG kit bags but I'm not really a fan.
 
Frack N Cylons said:
I dare say things are progressing. I'm still slow but my runs seem to be averaging just shy of 3 miles. The limiting factor isn't my legs or lungs but time.

Lifting after running just isn't going to work, I'm going to have to rethink that whole thing.

I think I want a fanny pack of some sort as well. Open to recommendations. I've looked at the HPG kit bags but I'm not really a fan.
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Progress isn't linear. Trial and error. You can do something like every 3 minutes during a run, do 'n' burpees, 'x' squats, 'y' push-ups, etc. Turn it into a circuit.

I have had a foot injury for about a month that's finally just about resolved. I am hoping to get into some zone 2 stuff soon.
 
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Frack N Cylons said:
I think I want a fanny pack of some sort as well. Open to recommendations. I've looked at the HPG kit bags but I'm not really a fan.
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What are you looking to carry in it and where do you run?

For short runs (2-3 miles) I just have my phone in my pocket, then knife and pepper spray in my waistband.
For longer runs and races, I have a small 1.5L camelback.
If I am running at night or evening, I'll also have a small headlamp or flashlight.
 
Nebowictz said:
What are you looking to carry in it and where do you run?

For short runs (2-3 miles) I just have my phone in my pocket, then knife and pepper spray in my waistband.
For longer runs and races, I have a small 1.5L camelback.
If I am running at night or evening, I'll also have a small headlamp or flashlight.
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A J frame and some ID and CCs.

I have been carrying that in a belly band, which was fine for winter but sucks in the summer.

Definitely don't want tacticool. Just some boring dad at Disney minimal thing.
 
Well I think fanny packs are back in style these days, so you should be able to find some options. I can't say I've ever looked into what fanny pack options there are and compared what's available.
 
May was a good month, just over 27 miles in. I’m still slow, but it’s getting better. I really noticed how much my alcohol intake over the weekends kicked my ass on Mondays. I did a little road running in and around my neighborhood tonight and noticed that the miles go by quicker but it is boring and hard on my feet and knees. I much prefer the trails.
 
Frack N Cylons said:
A beautiful summer evening for a run on the trail. Bunnies and fireflies everywhere.
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I did a faster (for me currrently) 2.25 miles yesterday with a 200 yd sprint at the end. It was a nice day to be out for sure.
 
Does anyone here know much about running shoes?
I did my first 5-miler in a while on monday, so my calves and feet were both in a bit of pain.
I think my 2016 New Balances have had enough and are dead. I have never ran in any of the "super shoes" they have now, so I think I'm going to test the Asics Superblasts, and get a lower heel drop, lighter, low stack shoe to compare to my old Zante's, are there any recommendations there?
 
Desron23 said:
Does anyone here know much about running shoes?
I did my first 5-miler in a while on monday, so my calves and feet were both in a bit of pain.
I think my 2016 New Balances have had enough and are dead. I have never ran in any of the "super shoes" they have now, so I think I'm going to test the Asics Superblasts, and get a lower heel drop, lighter, low stack shoe to compare to my old Zante's, are there any recommendations there?
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Have you had your foot type checked out at a running store to make sure you are in the right shoe? If not, find one. If so, stick with what they recommend. Me, I have a flat foot, I am a heavy guy, and I pronate; a Clydesdale. I need motion control with some cushion. I don't do well with low drop/zero drop. I like Brooks Addiction and Beast shoes, and Hokas (can't recall which model).
 
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