I understand the aversion towards the Chinesium optics, but unfortunately the American made companies just haven't kept up with the demands of the civilian market. Options are pretty poor when it comes to pistol RDS availability for smaller weapons - For something like the SIG P365 or Glock 48, you sacrifice quite a bit going with RMRcc - not only do you have the headache of dealing with mounting plates that don't match up well with height, Trijicon doesn't even provide the proper screws - additionally, they require dismounting to install batteries and don't have auto brightness features. For larger-ish pistols you're pretty limited as well. It took Aimpoint a long time to revamp the abysmal battery life of the ACRO from P-1 to P-2, and good luck finding one. - Leupold DPP is huge, and the RMR has the same issues as the RMRcc.
I would instantly buy the HK if they offered something with ambi controls. I don't know of any compacts with them, with the exception of Glock 19-sized compacts.
There are 2 EPS models: EPS (full size) & EPS Carry (compact/K). The EPS Carry has the rear sight notch.
I completely missed that. Glad you both pointed it out. Very cool! Has there been an official ETA announced? I just picked up my XL yesterday. Just trying to decide on a holster right now...looks like I'll join the EPS Carry waiting club.
I hate the size of the G26, and haven't fiddled with a P30sk. When I say "compact" I'm mainly referring to something like the P365X(L) - it would be perfect for me if it had an ambi slide release...IDK why more pistols haven't adopted fully ambidextrous controls like FN puts out.
I was wondering the same. Unfortunately my full-size guns that are optic cut are RMR footprint. On one hand, I like that they’re standardizing footprint but I personally wish the industry would go K for micro compacts and RMR for everything else.
I tend to think it might be a misprint. It wouldn't make sense for them to make one for full size and one for compact carry and make them both the same footprint. I'm betting that standard EPS is RMR footprint.
It is, the EPS uses a RMR footprint unlike the 509 with requires a RMR adapter plate, and the EPS carry is the “K” footprint.
That would be great! Where did you see that confirmed, if you don’t mind?
fragoutmag.com
I could have swore I read that, but I just went to look for the source and I can’t find it…maybe I didn’t. I can’t imagine why there would be a regular and a “carry” version of it though.That would be great! Where did you see that confirmed, if you don’t mind?
Edit: This brief article says they’re K footprint and has some good SxS pics. Based on the top-down pic, it looks like the screw spacing is the same on both, sadly.
SHOT Show 2022: Holosun EPS & EPS Carry red dots - Frag Out! Magazine
HOLOSUN adds two new optics to the line up. The new Holosun EPS & EPS Carry red dot sights are smaller enclosed red dot sights based on 509T but with different footprint. The new EPS (Enclosed Pistol Sight) and EPS Carry offer the benefits of a fully-enclosed optic like Holosun509T series, but...
I was under the impression it was last month but that never happened. I wonder if they're just working on building a substantial inventory so they don't end up like your boys at Cloud.
That’s my assumption as well. They’re post on IG a couple months back made me think the release was going to be in late June or July, looks like that didn’t happen.
The carry is smaller as well. The non-carry has a 28% larger lens. That’s the surprising part to me, a full size sight with a K footprint.
Ah, that’s right. I don’t know why I keep confusing the differences between the 2. I’m still baffled as to why they didn’t do one with a RMR footprint and the smaller with the K…
I’m with you, that’s why I’m waiting for them to hit the hands of users/reviewers so we can get 100% confirmation.
One direct with a couple inferring ones. I just get tired of seeing comments like that over and over. The people at holosun are good dudes and it just annoys me in general.
So you're sensitive because you know the guys behind the brand.
If you want to go with the first part sure. Working in the industry I know quite a few faces and names behind popular brands. Some good and some bad. Holosun as you said makes a quality product for the price point. They are aware but if they do as you mentioned, you'd lose the cost-effectiveness of the brand. However, just to throw hate at a brand that is open about where their products are made just seems asinine.
I'd be interested, as well as info on the height in regards to cowitness with BUIS.
I'd like to see as well
