Why Carry a 1911? Gun Guys

If they are built within spec, they will work every time. They have to. It's a machine, it doesn't have a choice.

While they will never go the way of the dinosaur, they are going the way of the 57 Chevy...collectors and enthusiasts. Some militaries and branches still carry them, but eventually they will be replaced.

If it is in-spec, out of the box they almost always need a trigger job; otherwise, point, shoot, rinse, repeat.
 
"A 1911 is what you show your friends, a Glock is what you show your enemies."

I prefer to carry a 1911 on holidays, when I eat BBQ (Prime in Knightdale is VERY good, Redneck BBQ Lab is good as well), and wear jeans.

Never with a suit, never in inclement weather, never at classes where the gun touches the ground.

Why carry a 1911? For the same reason you wear an automatic or wind watch.

Because you want to.

A plastic gun or smart watch is a more efficient choice... but I would've married a librarian if I did everything based on logic.
 
Because I don't eat quiche (old timers will GET that reference)?

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But I DO have a sense of humor. ;)

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jfanatic said:
......and yet my $400 Tisas has never, ever failed to go "bang", has never jammed, have never had a FTF (fire or feed) and looks great in its "retro" garb........
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I have yet to find the man who can tell the difference in being shot with a 400 Tisas or a 4k Kimber.
 
I have plenty, lots of plastic guns. They have a place and a purpose in life...................They are tools, no different than hammers, screw drivers, wrenches and such...............Nothing you would sit and admire, nothing you would be proud of ownership, nothing with any character.

I have plastic rifles, they have a place as well. But one does not admire them, or one is not proud of ownership, they are not a work of art, and they have no character. On the other hand, a very fine stocked bolt gun, double rifle, or such has character, you admire it, respect it for what it is...................Comparison, AR 15 vs a Fine Wood Stocked Winchester M70............. They each have a place and purpose.

A fine 1911 vs Plastic............................They both have a place...................

There is no "Character" or "Aesthetic" value here..............

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On the other hand, a fine 1911 is something to be cherished, and admired.............

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I would think it would be safe to say no gun has been produced out of spec more than the 1911 and still made to perform reliably. Build the 1911 to original specs as well the ammo to the specs of that era and it’s as faultless as any Glock.
 
Walkabout Dan said:
It is approaching 100 years old and should not be underestimated.
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I posted that in jest due to being accused of being a commie. But in truth it does have many similarities with the 1911 and having shot one (and owned one briefly) I would certainly not feel even remotely out gunned off I had to fight with one. It’s comfortable, accurate, and the round it fires is hot and nasty.


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B00ger said:
I posted that in jest due to being accused of being a commie. But in truth it does have many similarities with the 1911 and having shot one (and owned one briefly) I would certainly not feel even remotely out gunned off I had to fight with one. It’s comfortable, accurate, and the round it fires is hot and nasty.


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Its a really interesting design with defined Browning influences... and a few interesting differences.

The integral feed lips in the modular fcg housing for example.

Easy to replace the whole fcg if something is wrong, AND if your magazines "feed lips" arent just *quite* right, it still feeds because it isnt as reliant on the magazines geometries.

Id love to see a true update of the design with a traditional 1911 style safety and perhaps a double stack configuration.
 
I apologize for further derailing the thread into Tokarev territory, but these things are underrated! They are dead simple, slim, and cheap enough that you don't mind doing a little fettling. Here's a Norinco 213 (9mm) I got from a forum member. I got some grips made and gave it an internal fluff and buff. It has a great single-action trigger now. Clearly influenced by Browning
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B00ger said:
I posted that in jest due to being accused of being a commie. But in truth it does have many similarities with the 1911 and having shot one (and owned one briefly) I would certainly not feel even remotely out gunned off I had to fight with one. It’s comfortable, accurate, and the round it fires is hot and nasty.
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I bought a Norinco 1911 BNIB in the fall of '92. "Suck," "ALMIGHTY," and "ass" are the three words that come to mind first on THAT 💩. Began CHOKING (FTF) on the second mag of HARDBALL. 🤮

COULDN'T get rid of that lemon fast ENOUGH! I'd count that Tok as CLOSER to a 1911, than a NORINCO 1911!
 
The War Wagon said:
I bought a Norinco 1911 BNIB in the fall of '92. "Suck," "ALMIGHTY," and "ass" are the three words that come to mind first on THAT 💩. Began CHOKING (FTF) on the second mag of HARDBALL. 🤮

COULDN'T get rid of that lemon fast ENOUGH! I'd count that Tok as CLOSER to a 1911, than a NORINCO 1911!
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Hmph, I had always heard they were solid and well liked for project guns. That does sound like a lemon.
 
frakncylons said:
Hmph, I had always heard they were solid and well liked for project guns. That does sound like a lemon.
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Depending on the vintage they had barrel lug and link issues IIRC.
 
OldNascar said:
I would think it would be safe to say no gun has been produced out of spec more than the 1911 and still made to perform reliably. Build the 1911 to original specs as well the ammo to the specs of that era and it’s as faultless as any Glock.
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It is a machine if built properly it has to run. It has no choice. These days I say that people treat the original 1911 Spec and more of a suggestion then a blue print for building a gun. Almost everyone has changed the spec enough so they can use CNC machined and mim parts to speed up production and lower production cost. There are still people who build them properly you just have to know who is building a reliable gun. It takes a lot more knowledge to choose the right 1911 brand or builder vs buying a Glock 19. IMHO
 
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wvsig said:
It is a machine if built properly it has to run. It has no choice. These days I say that people treat the original 1911 Spec and more of a suggestion then a blue print for building a gun. Almost everyone has changed the spec enough so they can use CNC machined and mim parts to speed up production and lower production cost. There are still people who build them properly you just have to know who is building a reliable gun. It takes a lot more knowledge to choose the right 1911 brand or builder vs buying a Glock 19. IMHO
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Couldn’t agree more.
 
Red Marley said:
I apologize for further derailing the thread into Tokarev territory, but these things are underrated! They are dead simple, slim, and cheap enough that you don't mind doing a little fettling. Here's a Norinco 213 (9mm) I got from a forum member. I got some grips made and gave it an internal fluff and buff. It has a great single-action trigger now. Clearly influenced by Browning
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I got a great deal on one a few years ago with a good amount of ammo. Loved the thing. Put it up for auction to help out a forum member. I’ve wanted to replace it ever since, but still glad it went to the cause it did.


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wvsig said:
Yes because the gun is accurate and reliable. 😂
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I’ve always been conflicted about this. I shoot a 1911 better than about anything else. But I am slow drawing and flicking the safety. The only solution I’ve really found that seems to be an acceptable compromise it my CZ Custom and to a lesser extent my HK with light LEM trigger. I get better speed and can actually hit the barn at less than a punt’s distance. If speed, size and concealment was not an issue I’d have a 1911 in 45 acp on my hip with a couple extra mags and feel good to go.
 
CZfool68 said:
I’ve always been conflicted about this. I shoot a 1911 better than about anything else. But I am slow drawing and flicking the safety. The only solution I’ve really found that seems to be an acceptable compromise it my CZ Custom and to a lesser extent my HK with light LEM trigger. I get better speed and can actually hit the barn at less than a punt’s distance. If speed, size and concealment was not an issue I’d have a 1911 in 45 acp on my hip with a couple extra mags and feel good to go.
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Run them in a timed drill, side by side, with a shot clock. Only way to really know which helps you put rounds on target fastest.

I’ll credit @Wahoo95 with this suggestion from years sgo.
 
CZfool68 said:
I’ve always been conflicted about this. I shoot a 1911 better than about anything else. But I am slow drawing and flicking the safety. The only solution I’ve really found that seems to be an acceptable compromise it my CZ Custom and to a lesser extent my HK with light LEM trigger. I get better speed and can actually hit the barn at less than a punt’s distance. If speed, size and concealment was not an issue I’d have a 1911 in 45 acp on my hip with a couple extra mags and feel good to go.
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These days muscle memory is working with me and against me. I flip the manual safety "off" whether is it there or not. LOL The Beretta doesn't seem to mind. 😄
 
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Why carry a 1911? Durability when properly setup.​


SDM Fabricating Colt Government Model .45acp, 43,099 rounds on the clock. The only part that has ever failed was the firing pin stop at round count 41,833. It happened sometime during a 2 day class with LAV and I didn't catch it until a couple of days later when I was cleaning it. The bottom half broke completely off and the upper half retained the firing pin and extractor in the gun. It never missed a beat.

This gun runs like a sewing machine:
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That is a BEAUTIFUL gun. The wear patina is so much prettier than the pristine look of so many 1911s.

Not a fan of the "manly" trigger/grips you chose, but gun itself is gorgeous.

Like a beautiful woman in a dress you aren't a fan of.
 
Amp Mangum said:

Why carry a 1911? Durability when properly setup.​


SDM Fabricating Colt Government Model .45acp, 43,099 rounds on the clock. The only part that has ever failed was the firing pin stop at round count 41,833. It happened sometime during a 2 day class with LAV and I didn't catch it until a couple of days later when I was cleaning it. The bottom half broke completely off and the upper half retained the firing pin and extractor in the gun. It never missed a beat.

This gun runs like a sewing machine:
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Damn Pard!!!! What a beauty!!!! I care not a whit for "queens" and this goes double for holsters without wear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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