Why Does "Good" Coffee Taste so Bad?

To me people have been trained to say "good Coffee" is from over roasted beans. It tastes burnt to me.

In man's never ending quest to find the "perfect" coffee, we've actually descended to picking marinated coffee beans out of the $#!+ from animals like the civit, monkeys, elephants, coati, etc.

Maybe we should start a new line of such coffee, cultivated from human $#!+.

We could make up all kinds of human flavors. Taco Tuesday Coffee, for example. Street Walker Coffee. Only Fans Whore Blend. Streets of San Francisco Blend. All kinds of ethnic/cultural blends, like Mexican, Korean, Swedish, etc. Meth Head Masterpiece Blend.
 
I like GOOD coffee black.

I like average coffee with some cream in it. That's mostly what I come across at work.

I won't drink flavored coffee, coffee with powdered and/or flavored creamer, sugar, or any other crap in it.

Listening to my retired Master Chief FIL order coffee at Starbucks, or any other similar, coffee place was...entertaining :D I remember one line going something like, "I don't want coffee Juan Valdez's donkey has $h!t in...I just want plain coffee."
 
Why would anybody who just wants plain coffee go to starbucks? Feels like you're setting yourself up to have a fight with somebody who has purple hair and a nose ring.

Just drink coffee you like. Find something good, and just keep doing that. Life is hard enough without making caffeine complicated too. Being elitist doesn't help things.
 
We've been using our new Bunn pour over coffee maker with carafe, an' it makes the same coffee we've been drinkin' Far Better! I think it's because the water never really boils. It gets close, but then it stops and keeps it hot. You pour in a pot of water, it displaces the water it already had ready and waiting at the right temperature, and pours it over into the filter.
 
We've been using our new Bunn pour over coffee maker with carafe, an' it makes the same coffee we've been drinkin' Far Better! I think it's because the water never really boils. It gets close, but then it stops and keeps it hot. You pour in a pot of water, it displaces the water it already had ready and waiting at the right temperature, and pours it over into the filter.
The science geeks say there’s something to this. I can’t balance a chemical equation for it, so I just follow their lead. My kettle is set to 200 degrees.
 
I usually let my kettle come to a boil, then take it off the burner and let it sit without heat while I prep my coffee. 2-3 minutes tops
Answering my own question, the evil Google says optimum coffee brewing temperature is 195F-205F so your methodology makes sense.
 
Why would anybody who just wants plain coffee go to starbucks? Feels like you're setting yourself up to have a fight with somebody who has purple hair and a nose ring.

Just drink coffee you like. Find something good, and just keep doing that. Life is hard enough without making caffeine complicated too. Being elitist doesn't help things.

Damn skippy!

*takes a swig of unsweetened tea*
 
A cooking professional is of the opinion that boiling removes the acid and bitterness.
a person who likes good coffee isn't gonna be using old pre-ground folgers out of a plastic tub...
what that man is doing is putting lipstick on a pig, then telling you it's the prettiest girl you'll ever have a chance with.
he may be right about some of us. but not for all.

Some of us like to put on the smellgood and skynyrd to head into town once in a while.
 
Coffee shop lover here, who also hates coffee shop coffee.

So I just order Americanos and find myself quite happy.

Even places that normally burn their coffee seem to be halfway decent with espresso in my estimation.
 
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A cooking professional is of the opinion that boiling removes the acid and bitterness.





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This man's opinion is invalidated!!!
 
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Disclaimer: I don't give a double espresso what you make at home or if you think paying $4 for a cuppa joe is stupid. Do you take some virtue-signaling pride in buying 50# of Folgers at a time and hauling it around your 1975 vintage Stanley Thermos? Sweet, you do you. This thread is about uppity emos, philosophy majors, disinterested teenagers and tree hugging baristas pulling craft 'creations' at the local artisanal coffee shop.

OK, now that we have that out of the way...*

I like Coffee Shop coffee. Comfy couches, good WiFi, I see people I know, I can get work done without being stuck in an office all day. It USED TO BE you could get a good quality dark roast that actually tasted good. Like the aforementioned Folgers, but with depth and a robustness that really sets it apart from stale grocery store brands.

Nowadays, it seems that every 'good' coffee shop is going nutty with "floral essence" and "notes of cranberry and fairy dust"...like they're some wine peddler. I haven't had a decent cup in months. Everything has a 'bright' or overly acidic after taste. And I've been to 4-5 different cafes, they're all doing the same thing.

Is it just me? Do I need to just stay home and join the masses swilling their reasonably priced and perfectly acceptable drip-o-lator offerings?










*Sorry Zoomies, I didn't mean to trigger you with the Ellipsis of Hate.

**Remember folks, I am a FORUM MODERATOR, and therefore superior to you. If anyone dares disparage my love of hippies and $10 Flat Whites you will feel my wrath via a sternly delivered 'harrumph'.


Just came from Cookouts getting a milk shake for my grandson. There is a sign there warning people with peanut allergies that they use peanuts and it is possible they my come in contact with your food.

It's the same with coffee. Your dark roast not only may but probably does come in contact with that double espresso mocha latte soy veggie drink that is all the rage this week. Hard for it not to when they make 3 dark roasts a week and 95 of the other one each day.

And what'd ya mean "former". Did they take your sash away?
 
It's coffee. It's bitter, humans are hardwired to associate 'bitter' with 'poison.'

All coffee tastes like crap. You just notice it more cause you paid more for it.

#sweetteamafia
 
That’s because he’s from Indiana. It could be worse. If we’re from the NE when referring to iced tea he wold be meaning the powered stuff in the jar.

Oh, God, please no!

Instant tea and instant coffee are NASTY!
 
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