Democrats are competing for virtue signaling rights:Gov. of Nevada ordered all businesses to close for 30 days.
"Close for 2 weeks."
"Better to close for 3 weeks!"
"Even better to close for a month!!!"
Democrats are competing for virtue signaling rights:Gov. of Nevada ordered all businesses to close for 30 days.
If all states do 30 day stuff....we will enter the apocalypse. Just Nevada alone for ALL business is guaranteeing recession. If any major GDP state (TX, NY, CA, FL, NJ, NC, GA...) we will likely enter a full blown depression. California is something like 20 TRILLION GDP. Our economy would shrink to the size of Eastern Europe if a few of them followed suit.
if I wanted to live in Ukraine I’d ducking move there. I’d rather catch a god damn cold or breath through a respirator for a week than watch the fall of the American empire
Sanders says he want every household to get a $2K check a month unit the national emergency is over.
Don't leave us hanging.
We're doing "prescreening" where we ask people a few quick questions before they come into our building, for real temp/appearance screening and then on to business. We had a lady cuss us out because we wouldn't just let her thunder in through everything and find her friend to find out how long she was going to take. And by policy we don't give information about people to other people without first verifying that they came with each other and the person in our building is okay with us telling them things like "yes/no they are here/not here".
I hate people too, and with us all on edge i'm certainly not getting any more friendly.
I’d rather catch a god damn cold or breath through a respirator for a week than watch the fall of the American empire
Flu season on steroids. Can't wait.
This is what I don't think even a third of the people in this thread understand. It doesn't have to kill everyone, just infect a large number of at risk patients and the whole healthcare system is going to be under water. And maybe that's ok with the majority of you, because people posting in this thread are young and healthy, (doubt that) but what happens if you are in a car wreck? Have a CVA? What happens when you're pregnant girlfriend has a difficult birth?
Sorry, all the ventilators are in use. We have no PPE or sterile garb to kit out our OR's. People are laying on beds in hallways. Coming to the hospital is pretty much a guarantee you'll be infected. RN's, RRT's, PA's and Docs are overworked, fatigued, and short on staffing because they're getting sick too. Some are getting reinfected after getting over it.
As things are, most years we're struggling to stay afloat with bipaps and ventilators, running out of common breathing meds like albuterol and budesonide, and running around like chickens with our heads cut off trying to give everyone the best care.
Double the load. Double the pt's who need vents. Double the number who need bipaps. Double med consumption- antibiotics, breathing meds, simple painkillers and paralytics for intubation.
You're in for a bad time. You're in for triage. Grandma sick? Sorry, she's 82 and has diabetes. No care for her, we need the vent for someone with less comorbidities and a better chance at surviving. She's going to have to go home and struggle to breath until she dies or lay on a makeshift bed in the hospital.
I hope this is not what we're in for, but there's a chance it is. Italy is a good indication of what could happen here.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...age-and-lies-for-virus-patients-idUSKBN2133KG
Flu season on steroids. Can't wait.
This is what I don't think even a third of the people in this thread understand. It doesn't have to kill everyone, just infect a large number of at risk patients and the whole healthcare system is going to be under water. And maybe that's ok with the majority of you, because people posting in this thread are young and healthy, (doubt that) but what happens if you are in a car wreck? Have a CVA? What happens when you're pregnant girlfriend has a difficult birth?
Sorry, all the ventilators are in use. We have no PPE or sterile garb to kit out our OR's. People are laying on beds in hallways. Coming to the hospital is pretty much a guarantee you'll be infected. RN's, RRT's, PA's and Docs are overworked, fatigued, and short on staffing because they're getting sick too. Some are getting reinfected after getting over it.
As things are, most years we're struggling to stay afloat with bipaps and ventilators, running out of common breathing meds like albuterol and budesonide, and running around like chickens with our heads cut off trying to give everyone the best care.
Double the load. Double the pt's who need vents. Double the number who need bipaps. Double med consumption- antibiotics, breathing meds, simple painkillers and paralytics for intubation.
You're in for a bad time. You're in for triage. Grandma sick? Sorry, she's 82 and has diabetes. No care for her, we need the vent for someone with less comorbidities and a better chance at surviving. She's going to have to go home and struggle to breath until she dies or lay on a makeshift bed in the hospital.
I hope this is not what we're in for, but there's a chance it is. Italy is a good indication of what could happen here.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...age-and-lies-for-virus-patients-idUSKBN2133KG
Sanders says he want every household to get a $2K check a month unit the national emergency is over.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1239975682643357696.html
The more we understand - the scarier it is. I will be dusting off skills from intern year (14 years ago)
Take care
Doesn’t Trump and Mnunchin want to send everybody $1k now? If you can justify the $1k why not 2? Or 20? We’re just pulling paper out our ass anyway. There is very little logic or economic sense to any of it in the long run. Let’s all take tons of greenbacks now and we can watch it all burn when we are in our rocking chairs while our kids and grandkids suffer the consequences. It appears to be the new American way.
Now you are just being pessimistic. I have a few rocking chairs and what I would call drinking chairs. And a deck.
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National lockdown coming within days.
Either we do that or we say "screw it, let the virus burn through", try to save under 60 with no pre-existing conditions (and drop that age to 50 when it gets to that stage), and let everyone else try to fend off infection at home.
The China model worked. Limping along will not work.
National lockdown coming within days.
Either we do that or we say "screw it, let the virus burn through", try to save under 60 with no pre-existing conditions (and drop that age to 50 when it gets to that stage), and let everyone else try to fend off infection at home.
The China model worked. Limping along will not work.
National lockdown coming within days.
with the increase in testing there will be an increase in positive cases. A shutdown would be to prevent panic.I've suspected it will come to this, although I thought it would have already happened by now.
I just pulled it up on my iPad and it is working fine. 7,323 cases in the US right now. Sixty six of them are in NC.Is ARCGIS working for anybody? Mine has looked like this for a couple of days ...
Utterly destroying the economy ain't going to do much to improve anybody's health either.
It's easy to speculate, point fingers, and play "I told you so", but we're royally screwed no matter who is right. Especially when the options are to let all the old folks die while hospitals are underwater, or simply destroying our economy for who knows how long.
I just pulled it up on my iPad and it is working fine. 7,323 cases in the US right now. Sixty six of them are in NC.
Try copying the base URL and opening in a new browser session. I had the same thing happen a few days ago.
Okay, so these kinds of occasional posts from folks in the medical field are what are the most alarming to me.https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1239975682643357696.html
The more we understand - the scarier it is. I will be dusting off skills from intern year (14 years ago)
Take care
It does look awful, especially the exponential model we hear so much about, and yet that didn't happen (maybe just hasn't happened yet?) in China. Yes, they went full totalitarian in Wuhan but they also don't have a lot of our advantages in sanitary food and water systems, quality of medical care, etc.
See the following. Watch the first three minutes. At about the three minute mark the date versus cases in China is shown and it is an exponential curve until suddenly they said, "nope, no more (or very few) new cases" which is not believable. The exponential growth curve, however, does fit.It does look awful, especially the exponential model we hear so much about, and yet that didn't happen (maybe just hasn't happened yet?) in China
Charlotte's releasing prisoners from the uptown jail to keep them safe.
What could possibly go wrong?
It does look awful, especially the exponential model we hear so much about, and yet that didn't happen (maybe just hasn't happened yet?) in China. Yes, they went full totalitarian in Wuhan but they also don't have a lot of our advantages in sanitary food and water systems, quality of medical care, etc.
This article tells the story of scientist Micheal Levitt, who recently explained why the exponential model isn't valid and is credited with accurately predicting the infection profile in Wuhan.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...er_talks_about_coronavirus_people_listen.html
Makes sense to me, but I will gladly admit that I'm inclined to see confirmation of my hope that we need to fear an economy-killing panic more than the medical impact of this virus.
This just came out from the office of Rep Jackson....
New COVID Testing Problem
The first shortage was test kits.
The second shortage was extraction kits, which are needed to extract the RNA that gets tested.
The new shortage is masks, gloves, and gowns for medical personnel (PPE - personal protective equipment).
As it turns out, this *directly* impacts COVID testing. You can't do a COVID test without this protective equipment because we cannot risk our medical personnel getting sick and in North Carolina - as in other states - we're running low on the equipment they need to stay safe.
The shortage is so severe that it may result in a modification of the eligibility criteria for who qualifies for a COVID test in order to ensure that there's enough testing capacity for higher-risk populations. DHHS is currently reviewing guidance to ensure we have maximum testing coverage given our resource constraint.
Shelter in place
The Mecklenburg county health director has stated that it's possible that our county will soon be told to shelter in place. There was no timeline or probability offered - just a caution to our folks so that they can take that possibility seriously starting now.
Mecklenburg's public health director does have the independent legal authority to call for our county to shelter in place. The state's approval would not be necessary.
More test kits
Mecklenburg is now contracting directly with LabCorp because we were only getting a few test kits per day from the state (which, in turn, is only getting a small number from the CDC). We asked the state for more, they told us to try and buy some directly from LabCorp, so that's what we're doing.
Community spread
Still no documented community spread, although most believe it is likely occurring. Estimates on the rate of possible community spread vary wildly. We are forming policy based on the assumption it is occurring.
Day care
Guidance on day care and child care centers is coming from the state this week.
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NC COVID stats as of 3/18 at 10:00 a.m.
66 known cases - up from 40 yesterday, largely because of 15 Duke students who had just returned from Europe.
Counties: Wake: 17, Durham: 12, Mecklenburg: 14, Harnett: 4, Chatham: 3, Forsyth: 2, Johnston: 2, Brunswick: 1, Cabarrus: 1, Craven: 1, Guilford: 1, Iredell: 1, Lincoln: 1, Sampson: 1, Wayne: 1, Wilson: 1, Onslow: 1, Watauga: 1
430 tests have been completed at state lab, which currently has capacity for another 1,250 tests.
At least 1,420 tests have been completed by non-state labs (hospitals and commercial labs). Total capacity there is unknown, but reported to be much higher than state capacity.
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Talk soon,
Jeff Jackson
N.C. Senate
District 37 - Mecklenburg