ASP Video: Armed defender responds to charging pit bull dog
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No damned way would i have pulled the trigger over a threat like that. I like dogs. Hes gonna have to chew on my leg for a bit before i put him down. 'Im skeert' isnt good enough. Bad shoot IMO even tho it checks all the boxes.
I HATE pitbulls. People who have them are generally not responsible, nor do they understand that they have no control over them, it is an illusion. This was out of line. Had it been my dog I might have shot the guy.
Charging dog like that, I would have shot. I also would not have let the dog suffer, he should have put the dog down.
I'm a pet owner / lover, I have 2 dogs and 2 cats.
I'm a pet owner / lover, I have 2 dogs and 2 cats.
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The first round, .40 hollow point hit the dog in the skull and bounced off, knocked him out but was found on the cement perfect mushroomed. Once he got up additional shots hit the dog and one in the dirt. The dog had to be put down later. Discussion afterwards about not letting the dog suffer could result in the defender facing charges of discharging the pistol in the neighborhood. Dog owner was cited for uncontrolled vicious dog and defender was not charged with any crimes for defending himself.
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Sad situation for the dog, and the shooter. The owner of the dog is partly to blame for his death for not keeping him in a kennel, chained, or whatever else to keep him safe and on his property.
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I would shoot your dogs if they charged me. no offense, but i'm not waiting until my face is in its mouth to find out if it's going to lick or bite.
Might want to keep that door shut, because (obviously) the law is on the shooter's side in a situation like this. You would be charged, I wouldn't.
Pretty easy dog owners. If you don’t want your dog shot it is your responsibility to keep them chained up, on a leash or locked inside. It is not the public’s duty to determine whether your dog is charging to lick, play or maul them. I would have done the same thing. And Yes I know that your pit is harmless and wouldn’t harm a fly. I don’t care and if it is loose and runs at me I will shoot it..
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Gonna let it lay there, thrashing and suffering?
MFer that shot the dog needs to be beaten with a ball bat to the point where he can only writhe on the ground and pull himself around with his hands...
"Yeah...how's it feel, jackass?"
MFer that shot the dog needs to be beaten with a ball bat to the point where he can only writhe on the ground and pull himself around with his hands...
"Yeah...how's it feel, jackass?"
%100 spot on. the only problem here was the dog owner and his unrestrained dog. That dogs blood is absolutely on the dog owner. If anyone needs to be beaten with a ball bat it is the jack ass who was crying about his breed of peace being killed for good cause.
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your pit charges me or my family to come lick us and it will be ventilated. I don't have time to decide the difference between a lick and bite. Restrain your dog like I manage to do mine and odds are greatly in your favor nothing will happen. It comes busting through a door and bad stuff is going to happen %99 of the time. Please let logic and understanding prevail over your feelings.
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Threat is over, shooting again would be a crime.
Blame the state for making stupid laws, not the guy who got attacked by a dog.
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My friend had some rott/shep mixes. They were well behaved and generally tame, but they HATED the neighbor kids.
Well, one day he hadn't closed his gate (which was never a problem because the dogs obeyed his commands)... but the neighbor kids were also out in their yard. Those dogs finally saw their chance to ... ??? and took off running at the kids. I spotted it first and ran towards the dogs and started to draw my gun. Friend had to yell twice, but the dogs stopped and ran back to the house. The whole thing couldn't have been more than 5 seconds.
Afterwards, my friend asked "were you just about to shoot my dogs?" I said "If they attacked the kids, yeah. i'd have felt bad." Friend just said "yep. I hate those kids, but thanks."
Great dogs. Terrible kids. Friend found out that the kids were throwing rocks at the dogs when they were locked up in their run. wouldn't have changed anything though.
You better shoot me too and quick
ETA for clarity: because if you just shot my dog you made yourself an imminent threat.
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Good shoot. I can’t say it was handled the best, but it’s also difficult to see the dogs demeanor with the bush blocking the view until the last second. As terrible as it is for the dog, I put the blame squarely on the owner for not securing and/or having control of his dogs.
I’m a dog owner and have been attacked by others’ dogs 3x as a child. Because of my experience, my dogs are very well trained, I wouldn’t have them any other way, and I won’t hesitate to defend myself from an aggressive dog.
I’m a dog owner and have been attacked by others’ dogs 3x as a child. Because of my experience, my dogs are very well trained, I wouldn’t have them any other way, and I won’t hesitate to defend myself from an aggressive dog.
The dog 'owner' is completely to blame for this. That thinking is the same as you not fortify your house against thieves , you shouldn't have left it unlocked. It's your fault you let them take your stuff.
I've got a neighbor just like this.
I've caught and stopped the dog twice in my yard. Even got it on leash. It Went to the pound the second time.
They were fined, didn't pay and got a bench warrant for the numerous times the dog catcher caught it.
That dog has chased my wife in the house twice, and has come off their porch 3 times at me snarling and charging.
She has stopped just in time each of those. Owner was on the porch 2 of those times and didn't say a word to the dog. The last was strike 3 and I told him the dog dies the next time. The town mayor and county Sherriff says do what you have to, give us a call when you're done.
They put her in a big harness and a spiked collar and walk around like big shits. I hate those @?&%€ people.
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Bullshit !
Your dog is in someone else's yard, good intentions or bad and you're going to get mad!?!
F-that, we'll have a good ol' shoot- out then....
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Your going to go to jail for a dog?
That peace officer either never handled a dog, or he’s a coward behind a badge.
Yes, I’ve dealt with this, more than once, and it they weren’t puppies. There’s an adult pit I’ve caught on game cameras periodically running my property. One day my Rottie alerted and the pit was charging towards us, I grabbed my dog and pistol. The dog’s got a great temperament, my son took him home hoping to keep him, until the owners were found a week later.
The dog owners in the vid failed to contain their animal, so the coward shot the puppy.
Yes, I’ve dealt with this, more than once, and it they weren’t puppies. There’s an adult pit I’ve caught on game cameras periodically running my property. One day my Rottie alerted and the pit was charging towards us, I grabbed my dog and pistol. The dog’s got a great temperament, my son took him home hoping to keep him, until the owners were found a week later.
The dog owners in the vid failed to contain their animal, so the coward shot the puppy.
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I’m on my own property being attacked by your dog that you failed to properly restrain making me shoot your dog and now you are mad at me for not letting your dog maul me? So now you will come onto my property to shoot me?
That makes a whole lot of sense
If you could google “personal responsibility “ it may clear this all up.
Legally the dog owner is responsible to contain his animal. The pup didn’t touch the coward, so it’s a threat not an attack.
If a someone is running at you on your property with a pipe how many times do you have to be hit with it before you can shoot him and not be a coward? I am betting you would have them face down in the dirt before they even got close to you. Great shoot and totally justified Sir. And I wouldn’t call you a coward for not letting someone attack you.
A man running at me with a pipe is clear intent. Dogs bluff, a lot, especially when your backing up or running away. I respect life more than killing a pup, just because I get an adrenaline spike.
Maybe he is just another irresponsible dog owner who was running up to you to ask if you have seen his dog running around the neighborhood because he was walking his dog off a leash.
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Dogs move faster than people. Yes, dogs bluff, but they also attack. You don't know the difference until they either turn around or bite. I've been attacked before, not keen on having it happen again.
We have a guy in our neighborhood who doesn't really seem to care when his dogs get loose. They are generally well mannered but I've seen them get aggressive from time to time.
I have lately been carrying pepper spray when I walk my dog to give me a few more options. I might be in my rights to shoot an aggressive dog, but let's be real, we all know it's going to cause me a list of headaches that could last years. I'd like it to be a last resort.
I have lately been carrying pepper spray when I walk my dog to give me a few more options. I might be in my rights to shoot an aggressive dog, but let's be real, we all know it's going to cause me a list of headaches that could last years. I'd like it to be a last resort.
the Guy was bluffing.. you shot him for no reason, coward.
Thats a good possibility and what i was trying to point out. Dogs and bullets don't know nothing about property lines. And you can be right and still make a bad situation worse. I'm out of this thread because yall are raising my blood pressure with this BS. Live well, but far from me.
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That one I call BS on. Dogs do understand property lines. They regularly "mark" their territory and they will defend it.
That they do.
When she comes into my yard, she knows to hightail it to the middle of the street or better when I come busting out the door.
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A negligent discharge is one where the bullet goes somewhere unintended.
And that Gun owner / operator has the ultimate responsibility to control that Bullet while in their control/ ownership..
Whoops... sorry you got shot. The bullet was only bluffing..
Same as the damn dog. You are responsible to control your dog at all times. You are negligent in losing control of said dog.
" Oh, relax !.. the bullet didnt even hit you..."
" Oh, Relax.. the dog was bluffing.. "
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Difference there is a well trained dog can be controlled and called back once it is released. Never heard of a well trained bullet.
I hate it for the dog. I probably wouldn't have shot it but some folks are really scared of dogs, any dog. It was totally the owners responsibility to keep the dog under control.
Just last week, my neighbor came over and said that she put my dogs back in my yard because the gate was open. We never leave the gate open and I don't know how it got that way. I immediately put locks on all the gates. If someone had shot them it would have sucked but it also would have been my fault.
Just last week, my neighbor came over and said that she put my dogs back in my yard because the gate was open. We never leave the gate open and I don't know how it got that way. I immediately put locks on all the gates. If someone had shot them it would have sucked but it also would have been my fault.
Difference there is a well trained dog can be controlled and called back once it is released. Never heard of a well trained bullet.
then the guy should have done that.
