Help Needed!! BIL Just Got Arrested Carrying in NJ

Well...if you're not allowed to have any of that in the passenger area, what the hell are you supposed to do?
What's the term for when you get trapped by laws designed to screw you from circumstances you can't avoid?
Exactly.
NY/NJ write laws to turn more innocent people into criminals from whom more money is then extorted.
They only want government and criminals to have guns.
Even residents of NJ cannot travel by air with a gun because it is illegal for them to possess a gun outside the home unless they travelling directly to or from a gun range. Concealed Carry permits are issued only to the politically connected or the very wealthy.

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They essentially ban us from visiting, without conforming to their tyranny.

I wish we could ban them from coming here, without conforming to Southern culture.

"License and registration please. You don't have a gun? That's a $200 fine and mandatory overnight stay in jail."
 
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Wasn’t hard to find his card, sandwiched between my D/L and CHP. Not sure whether he can help find somebody in NJ but probably worth a call.

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Used these guys before. You will NEVER talk to Mr Barrett. However ask for Mr Cruz he will help and at least call you back.
 

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Poor guy.

But you've gotta check the facts; and maybe remain silent. And not get pulled. I hope he returns home soon.
http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/USStatesThatHonorMyPermit.pdf
http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/USStatesMyStateHonors.pdf
NJ and MD pull over almost every car from a free state they encounter because they think they might have a gun. They don't need actual probable cause. They can make up something they want.
They run the plate. Because our state and others link permits to the DMV, permit holders are even more likely to get pulled over.

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NJ and MD pull over almost every car from a free state they encounter because they think they might have a gun. They don't need actual probable cause. They can make up something they want.
They run the plate. Because our state and others link permits to the DMV, permit holders are even more likely to get pulled over.

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Thankfully I did not encounter this when we visited Beantown, driving up through the worst of the country. I left everything behind because of the silly rules.
 
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NJ and MD pull over almost every car from a free state they encounter because they think they might have a gun. They don't need actual probable cause. They can make up something they want.
They run the plate. Because our state and others link permits to the DMV, permit holders are even more likely to get pulled over.

You (like minded, not you personally) would think this is true. Fact is I've never been pulled over in MD, NJ, NY, CT, MA for anything when traveling to my sisters and businesses. My tripsare in my personal auto and at least twice a year since moving here in 2000.

If they were to do what you refer there would be no need for the high tax rate. ;)
 
@Pink_Vapor ,

I don't have any contacts to offer but have y'all considered notifying the NRA and asking for some help from them in addition to the lawyer? They may be able to help in some other way.
 
You (like minded, not you personally) would think this is true. Fact is I've never been pulled over in MD, NJ, NY, CT, MA for anything when traveling to my sisters and businesses. My tripsare in my personal auto and at least twice a year since moving here in 2000.

If they were to do what you refer there would be no need for the high tax rate. ;)

I also have to agree since I go up there twice a year to see my son. Do the speed limit, stay to the right and you will not have a problem. I've had police pull right up behind me in the right lane and go around me. And of course if you do get pulled over KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT. Especially if your dumb enough to be carrying in these anti gun states.
 
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You have to be on your toes traveling with guns or even if you are shooter. Met an oil rig worker in India that was ready to fly home from Mumbai. They found a .22 round in his luggage (jacket pocket). He had just finished an additional 4 months in India sorting that out when I met him. He said the only good thing was that he and the India government came to an agreement that he would not return.

Also met a couple of guys from New Zealand that were in the UK for grouse shooting. They traveled with their shotguns. They said no problem getting permits for the UK, but getting permits to overfly India with the guns was a major expense and pain in the butt and only necessary in case the aircraft had to divert to an Indian airport.

Crazy stuff. I am very careful with where I put bullets at the range. My pockets are out of the question.

Unfortunately seems to be the way we are heading. Fortunately airspace is Federal, not state, but the airports are a different story. I never transit airports in 2A hostile states with firearms (don't fly Delta for business, but without them I would be sunk shooting). It may be overkill on my part, but as many have noted here, I regard it as keeping my retirement fund out of the hands of attorneys and state governments. This stuff makes taxes look reasonable.

Sorry for you BIL. I can only hope that the several highly publicized cases in NJ have brought some reason to judicial system there, but that may be a stretch.
 
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Six weeks ago NJ passed a law that you can't have a magazine that holds over 6 rounds :confused:
They treated him quite well and released him, he's started driving home this afternoon.

That is indeed a better outcome than expected.

Please keep us updated. I will be using this case (no references to forum or members, of course) as a cautionary scenario in my CCH class next week.
 
They run the plate. Because our state and others link permits to the DMV, permit holders are even more likely to get pulled over.
Sounds like a great place to exert some political pressure. Our state(s) should refuse to provide such information to the communist states.
 
At or just below the speed limit and "perfect" driving are signs that troopers look for. Often this is how the drug mules drive. You are better off running 5 or so over.

When I was first getting my license forever ago in MA, step mum would tell me they think "9 you're fine, 10 you're mine".
 
When I was first getting my license forever ago in MA, step mum would tell me they think "9 you're fine, 10 you're mine".

Yep. But you need to know if your speedo is right. My Honda Accord is about 7% off. I set my cruise based on my GPS speed not my speedometer. My Subaru speedometer is dead on.
 
Be prepared to take this case to the USSC with the NRA's backing and looking for National Reciprocity.

Forget the NRA. They're a bunch of neutered wusses these days. I hope everyone here is supporting GRNC and the GOA. They're the ones doing the work for us now. (I know GRNC is local and won't help in NJ - just making a point)
 
So what actually became of this? Last post I saw said he was let go. Were all charges dropped?


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Yep. But you need to know if your speedo is right. My Honda Accord is about 7% off. I set my cruise based on my GPS speed not my speedometer. My Subaru speedometer is dead on.
Possibly different size tires vs stock factory size.
 
NJ and MD pull over almost every car from a free state they encounter because they think they might have a gun. They don't need actual probable cause. They can make up something they want.
They run the plate. Because our state and others link permits to the DMV, permit holders are even more likely to get pulled over.

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My last excursion into enemy territory, I got a rental car with MA plates. ;)
 
NJ and MD pull over almost every car from a free state they encounter because they think they might have a gun. They don't need actual probable cause. They can make up something they want.
They run the plate. Because our state and others link permits to the DMV, permit holders are even more likely to get pulled over.

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My sister lived in northern Jersey for years (Lake Hopatcong); and our good friends live right outside of Baltimore (Hanover). I have seen a billion state and local cops and never, ever got stopped.
 
No. Honda is bad for their speedometers being off, especially older models. My '06 Honda motorcycle speedometer is also way off.

I haven't worried about my cars and trucks much, but my bikes made me worry some I was prone to swapping sprockets and what not.

One day the sheriff was at my dad's shop, shooting the breeze. I asked him if he would clock me on my CBR1100XX. I rolled by at 60. He said I was clocked at 57. I thought that was good. I asked him to let me try it one more time, but this time I wanted to push it to 100. He said ok, but you better keep on going. Lol.

For my F4i, I used a speedo-healer to correct the speedometer.
 
My coworker was pulled over on the BQE (Bklyn-Queens Expy) in NY, he had his mothers SUV with NC tags,
they get him out, cuff him, he offers no resistance, super polite (more to this), have dogs searching the SUV,
he is just laughing his rear end off, they go in the glove box, find two business cards, both his mom and dad are
Sgts. at Rikers Island! ;) They cut him loose. Did not tell them a thing. They thought he was drug mule.
 
My coworker was pulled over on the BQE (Bklyn-Queens Expy) in NY, he had his mothers SUV with NC tags,
they get him out, cuff him, he offers no resistance, super polite (more to this), have dogs searching the SUV,
he is just laughing his rear end off, they go in the glove box, find two business cards, both his mom and dad are
Sgts. at Rikers Island! ;) They cut him loose. Did not tell them a thing. They thought he was drug mule.

I just don't see how they can get away with all that kind of stuff. But you hear about it a bunch.
 
For my F4i, I used a speedo-healer to correct the speedometer.
Something like this??o_O
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NJ and MD pull over almost every car from a free state they encounter because they think they might have a gun. They don't need actual probable cause. They can make up something they want.
They run the plate. Because our state and others link permits to the DMV, permit holders are even more likely to get pulled over.

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Go ahead & get this CCP horseshit yall speak of & see what it gets you.
 
When I had a kid in school in Boston, I only drove rented vehicles through enemy territory,

...which invariably had plates from a galaxy far, far, away.

Like Wisconsin.
 
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So what actually became of this? Last post I saw said he was let go. Were all charges dropped?
He got home last night. The charges have not been dropped. I think it's driving and messing with his phone (why he got pulled), firearm (Taurus 9mm) and 2 high cap mags.
Multiple lawyers were interviewed today. Two that y'all suggested, Tormey and Nappen seem to be the best bet so far. The first hearing is in two weeks.
Nappen's an interesting looking character, maybe not for NJ.
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He got home last night. The charges have not been dropped. I think it's driving and messing with his phone (why he got pulled), firearm (Taurus 9mm) and 2 high cap mags.
Multiple lawyers were interviewed today. Two that y'all suggested, Tormey and Nappen seem to be the best bet so far. The first hearing is in two weeks.
Nappen's an interesting looking character, maybe not for NJ.
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He got home last night. The charges have not been dropped. I think it's driving and messing with his phone (why he got pulled), firearm (Taurus 9mm) and 2 high cap mags.
Multiple lawyers were interviewed today. Two that y'all suggested, Tormey and Nappen seem to be the best bet so far. The first hearing is in two weeks.
Nappen's an interesting looking character, maybe not for NJ.
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So the charges that got him stopped have been dropped but the firearm/ammo charges have not, am I reading that right?
 
So the charges that got him stopped have been dropped but the firearm/ammo charges have not, am I reading that right?
Nothing’s been dropped, he’s a squeaky clean record, the jails are packed, so they let him go prior to the hearing, or whateva it’s called.
 
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