1911's to avoid?

Average Joe said:
This is my main reason for recommending the Tisas Duty.
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Is there anything proprietary about the Tisas. Do they accept standard 1911 sights and such as that? 🤠
NCFubar said:
A suggestion....
I will plant a bug in your ear … Brownells has a Labor Day sale now on Wilson 47D mags 3pk for $79.99 which basically means about $90 to your door or $30 each which is a deal! You can’t have too many mags or to much ammo.
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Oh yeah. Got grande plans to be at Hickory next weekend and hittin the shops when everybody gets back from this holiday weekend..
There's already 'o' plenty of 45 and associated components hangin around the house for a few other critters..
Lookin forward to gettin my mitts on some different models. I originally thought full size(Government?) but now I'm kinda likin the "Commander"(?) size. But this is not really founded on anything 'sides lookin at'em online.
Will keep that Brownell's gig in mind.. Got an account there still if they ain't booted me.. 😁 👍
 
HawgBonz said:
..First off I'd like to thank everyone for their input. This has been very interesting and informative..
I know I focus on some minutia but hey, this is part of the foreplay to the actual purchase and with the same results as any other foreplay. Onceinnawhile it evolves into somethin besides just "shootin yer wad". Good, bad or indifferent. 😁

..Best I can tell there's not a lot to disagree with in the @wvsig post#11.
Going thru the thread seems like there's some brands to avoid for a noob if for nothing other than the questionability of said brand names and it's effect on resale in the event of a flake out. Falls under that whole "Know thy self" thing in my AO...
I know my shooting brethren as well and we can be a fickle, stubborn lot.
Prone to many foibles and at least somewhat suspicious in fiscal transactions be it from ignorance, ego or greed. 🤣🤣

..Bout my only variance from his advice is I don't think GI versions are gonna work very well for me over bad eyes/dinky sights and I hate crappy triggers. I'd just as soon not hafta work on it from the get go ta make it tolerable. So I'm in the "upgraded" versions if I go with Tisas/RI. Which I ain't against at all cause that'd prolly be just fine and would leave money for some more steels.
While at a nice price point I'd hafta weight it against gettin into "American made" (base gun?) territory and resale factors again. I think muh lil experiment with open sights simplified things for me so not worryin' about optic cuts right now for this application.

..Springfield's entry-ish offerings seem like a decent and somewhat safe bet (Was that issue in Ill. ever resolved positively?).

..Then there's mebbe some Colts in my upper price range. Prolly a safer bet new if that's doable. I've got nothin against used but don't know enough to know if a used one's been monkeyed with by an unqualified monkey.

..Nothin I can do about anything remotely "boutique"..

..If I end up payin a lil "rent" to try somethin that doesn't pan out for some reason it ain't the end of the world.
Just don't wanna take a bath or have a jacked up experience with some Franken11.
Cost of continuing education and all. But still tryin to avoid it. 🥴 :cool:
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HawgBonz said:
Is there anything proprietary about the Tisas. Do they accept standard 1911 sights and such as that? 🤠

Oh yeah. Got grande plans to be at Hickory next weekend and hittin the shops when everybody gets back from this holiday weekend..
There's already 'o' plenty of 45 and associated components hangin around the house for a few other critters..
Lookin forward to gettin my mitts on some different models. I originally thought full size(Government?) but now I'm kinda likin the "Commander"(?) size. But this is not really founded on anything 'sides lookin at'em online.
Will keep that Brownell's gig in mind.. Got an account there still if they ain't booted me.. 😁 👍
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Tisas don’t have any proprietary stuff. As to “Commander” size that is Colt’s name that has spread to generic use kinda like Kleenex to tissues. Tisas offer the 4 1/4” size they refer to as a Tanker or Carry depending model. The 4 1/4” models right now are not as plentiful as the full size so if you want the Carry (Commander) length in a specific model it might be a little more work or you could walk in and they have both. I will say I would not go small than a Commander sized for a range gun especially … the size, weight and balance make them easier to run longer and not feel it as much.
 
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I see I'm preaching to the choir here. But I had an early Ruger sr1911 for a few years. It would eat anything I gave it including tul and other garbage ammo. It also held a great group out to 85 yards with federal ammo. Never shot any further than that.

Ruger has jumped their price recently but sometimes you can find them on sale or get it from a member for a reasonable price. I just sold mine a few months ago. iirc I sold my Ruger for 8 hundo with 3 or 400 rounds of ammo, box of hollow points and a leather el cheapo holster.
 
HawgBonz said:
..First off I'd like to thank everyone for their input. This has been very interesting and informative..
I know I focus on some minutia but hey, this is part of the foreplay to the actual purchase and with the same results as any other foreplay. Onceinnawhile it evolves into somethin besides just "shootin yer wad". Good, bad or indifferent. 😁

..Best I can tell there's not a lot to disagree with in the @wvsig post#11.
Going thru the thread seems like there's some brands to avoid for a noob if for nothing other than the questionability of said brand names and it's effect on resale in the event of a flake out. Falls under that whole "Know thy self" thing in my AO...
I know my shooting brethren as well and we can be a fickle, stubborn lot.
Prone to many foibles and at least somewhat suspicious in fiscal transactions be it from ignorance, ego or greed. 🤣🤣

..Bout my only variance from his advice is I don't think GI versions are gonna work very well for me over bad eyes/dinky sights and I hate crappy triggers. I'd just as soon not hafta work on it from the get go ta make it tolerable. So I'm in the "upgraded" versions if I go with Tisas/RI. Which I ain't against at all cause that'd prolly be just fine and would leave money for some more steels.
While at a nice price point I'd hafta weight it against gettin into "American made" (base gun?) territory and resale factors again. I think muh lil experiment with open sights simplified things for me so not worryin' about optic cuts right now for this application.

..Springfield's entry-ish offerings seem like a decent and somewhat safe bet (Was that issue in Ill. ever resolved positively?).

..Then there's mebbe some Colts in my upper price range. Prolly a safer bet new if that's doable. I've got nothin against used but don't know enough to know if a used one's been monkeyed with by an unqualified monkey.

..Nothin I can do about anything remotely "boutique"..

..If I end up payin a lil "rent" to try somethin that doesn't pan out for some reason it ain't the end of the world.
Just don't wanna take a bath or have a jacked up experience with some Franken11.
Cost of continuing education and all. But still tryin to avoid it. 🥴 :cool:
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Triggers and sights are the 1911s Achilles heel. They alone are worth paying more than 'base model' prices.

If you see a used 1911 on here there are enough folks in the know who could help determine if it's decent.
 
Chuckman said:
Triggers and sights are the 1911s Achilles heel.
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Triggers? Most handgun designers strive to achieve something as good as a run of the mill 1911. And they don't go "sproing!"

Sights? Only on GI guns.
 
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MacEntyre said:
Triggers? Most handgun designers strive to achieve something as good as a run of the mill 1911. And they don't go "sproing!"

Sights? Only on GI guns.
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Stock trigger, yes. I think a $1000 1911 has a better trigger than a $400 1911. Of course, non-scientific, and my opinion.

As a generalization, I agree, that a $400 1911 trigger > many non-1911 triggers.
 
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Had a good lil run thru the LGS's today and got to do some handling of 1911's. Just for a heads up Ideal Sports over off 601 had the best selection of nicer 1911's. Several Colts, that sexy ass lil Emissary, the Springfield assortment, yadda yadda.
I hafta say after fondling a pile of'em I'm thinkin a Tisas Duty with the nicer sights and such is prolly gonna be just about right for my uses and they're comin in mid $400's.. Might also look at the RI Ultras..
Unfortunately nobody had them in stock and would hafta order it. Can't say I was too confident in either proprietor's level of professionalism in that respect so I'm looking for an exact model# so I can get the right thing if I go that route.
Or wait till this weekend at Hickory and see what's available.. 😁 👍

@Catfish - Saw that. He's right at new price and I'd still hafta do the sights. Think I'll hold off. The ones I fiddled with today in that configuration weren't bad at all IMUO. Mebbe if my eyes actually recover I can get me a GI version.. 🤠
 
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Allrighty then.. Geezes.. Even I was gettin tired of my obsessing.. :rolleyes: 😁
So here we go.. Picked up this plain Jane Garrison today from Ideal.. Nothin special but hopefully a good base to start with and it ain't intolerable right outta the box. A deal came thru so I could comfortably up my game a tad and not cramp other projects so I went low end American made. Still feel like I'll hasta do somethin different with the sights but that was lookin like a given on just about anything off the shelf. Will give it a bit before gettin my undies bunched up over the trigger.
Gonna get a 3 pack of Wilsons from Brownells en route tomorrow.
Took it apart, hadta 'rassle the barrel a bit cause it was hangin on somethin. Wiped everything down and oiled it.
Reassembled and took it out to the parking lot for a test run.
Group on the right was the first 5 shots out of it @ 15 yards rested with the highest shot being the very first.
Then 3 a lil quicker off the rest to the left. Target squares are 2".
The steels disapproved of the acquisition.. :D
I kinda likin it.. :cool:

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HawgBonz said:
Allrighty then.. Geezes.. Even I was gettin tired of my obsessing.. :rolleyes: 😁
So here we go.. Picked up this plain Jane Garrison today from Ideal.. Nothin special but hopefully a good base to start with and it ain't intolerable right outta the box. A deal came thru so I could comfortably up my game a tad and not cramp other projects so I went low end American made. Still feel like I'll hasta do somethin different with the sights but that was lookin like a given on just about anything off the shelf. Will give it a bit before gettin my undies bunched up over the trigger.
Gonna get a 3 pack of Wilsons from Brownells en route tomorrow.
Took it apart, hadta 'rassle the barrel a bit cause it was hangin on somethin. Wiped everything down and oiled it.
Reassembled and took it out to the parking lot for a test run.
Group on the right was the first 5 shots out of it @ 15 yards rested with the highest shot being the very first.
Then 3 a lil quicker off the rest to the left. Target squares are 2".
The steels disapproved of the acquisition.. :D
I kinda likin it.. :cool:

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Solid Choice.
 
Congratulations! It’s a solid pistol that will serve you well for many, many years. Not bad shooting on your part. You think you were obsessing before. Ha you ain’t seen nothing yet! It’s hard to recover once you’ve been bitten by the 1911 bug.
 
I’m one of those dastardly types that doesn’t care where it was made so much. It was bought by an American from an American. It sat in an American shop after being delivered by an American driver. That pistol, regardless of origin, passed through, and helped employ, a number of Americans.
 
HawgBonz said:
Allrighty then.. Geezes.. Even I was gettin tired of my obsessing.. :rolleyes: 😁
So here we go.. Picked up this plain Jane Garrison today from Ideal.. Nothin special but hopefully a good base to start with and it ain't intolerable right outta the box. A deal came thru so I could comfortably up my game a tad and not cramp other projects so I went low end American made. Still feel like I'll hasta do somethin different with the sights but that was lookin like a given on just about anything off the shelf. Will give it a bit before gettin my undies bunched up over the trigger.
Gonna get a 3 pack of Wilsons from Brownells en route tomorrow.
Took it apart, hadta 'rassle the barrel a bit cause it was hangin on somethin. Wiped everything down and oiled it.
Reassembled and took it out to the parking lot for a test run.
Group on the right was the first 5 shots out of it @ 15 yards rested with the highest shot being the very first.
Then 3 a lil quicker off the rest to the left. Target squares are 2".
The steels disapproved of the acquisition.. :D
I kinda likin it.. :cool:

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Congratulations. Addictive, they are.
 
Chit.. Brownell's ran out of stock as I was ordering this morning.. 🤪
Trying to figger out what other MAGAzines would work..
Izzit kinda like Glock IRT any that are at least "long enough" will work?
i.e. The 7, 8 and 10 round mags will all work in it?
 
MacEntyre said:
I did not know that SA was making 1911s here, instead of Brazil.
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They have not used Imbel frames for a few years now.

HawgBonz said:
Chit.. Brownell's ran out of stock as I was ordering this morning.. 🤪
Trying to figger out what other MAGAzines would work..
Izzit kinda like Glock IRT any that are at least "long enough" will work?
i.e. The 7, 8 and 10 round mags will all work in it?
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Stick to 7 or 8 rounders. Do not go to 10. You don't want 47Ds IMHO. The springs wear out and the bodies can have issues. These are better. 10% off WLS10

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Chip McCormicks are pretty good.

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Stock up on the magazines you need!
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I love Tripp Cobras also … the Brownells deal was just to good to pass up. Virgil Tripp start his major business with magazines and Chip McCormick years back before he went in to form STI but went back after he sold out his STI holdings. Here is the link to what some argue is the best mag … https://www.trippresearchinc.com/8r-45-rg/
 
I didn't take the time to read through all four pages as it's almost 1am. Have owned several 1911s over the years and currently have three in my collection:
RIA in 10mm, BUL Armory in 9mm, and Magnum Research (made by BUL Armory) in .45. BUL makes some fine weapons with features other manufacturers don't include at similar price point, notably checkered front straps. They can normally be had in the $750-900 range.
 
Here are my 1911s. None of them were over $ 500.00 and all of them operate flawlessly. The top gun is an Iver Johnson, the middle gun is a RIA GI 1911 with aftermarket grips and at the bottom is a RIA Commander. They aren't beauties and don't have the bells and whistles that your custom 1911s have but I love and appreciate them for what they are: well designed firearms that are reliable and go bang when I pull the trigger. The RIA Commander I originally had designs for as a part of my concealed carry rotation but it was a little bulky for me to tote around.

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