.380 and .380 ACP...

High bore axis? You lost me....google time!

The height of the bore/barrel in relation to the grip. The higher the bore, the more flip the muzzle has which translates to more felt recoil. Low bore axis, less flip, less presumed or felt recoil. A high bore axis can take longer to get a gun back on target or you have to pay more attention to shooting grip to control it.
 
The height of the bore/barrel in relation to the grip. The higher the bore, the more flip the muzzle has which translates to more felt recoil. Low bore axis, less flip, less presumed or felt recoil. A high bore axis can take longer to get a gun back on target or you have to pay more attention to shooting grip to control it.
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first thing I taught my wife in shooting is just like using a bow, you try as many as you can and find the one that feels most comfortable to you. One you can hold and shoot easily on you feel extremely comfortable with. you do that and it will mean it will be more fun to shoot and also will enable you to be more accurate with it meaning you'll be safer all the way around.
 
Well, one friend so far. Lol. Most people I know aren't fond of guns....but they haven't had the robberies or else they have someone there all the time, not just sometimes! I guess the .380 will be snappier than the good old .25?

Pretty much any gun except a .22 will have more recoil than a .25.

Below are some reasonably small guns in different calibers for comparison. For each one, look just below the picture of the bullet and find where it says "Recoil Factor." That shows the theoretical amount of recoil for the gun. So, the recoil of the .22 listed would move a 0.26 pound weight a foot, the .25 would move a 0.61 pound weight, the .380 would move a 3.69 pound weight, and the same gun in 9mm would move a 7.72 pound weight. That will only start to give you an idea about recoil.

.22 Ruger SR22
.25 Heritage H25
.380 Ruger LC380
9mm Ruger LC9

Here's the Kel-Tec your friend has offered, which has nearly as much recoil as the 9mm Ruger above (and would sting your hand more because the recoil is fast and sharp).
.380 Kel-Tec P3AT

Finally, a big, heavy gun to show what extra weight does to reduce recoil.
9mm SIG P226
 
Pretty much any gun except a .22 will have more recoil than a .25.

Below are some reasonably small guns in different calibers for comparison. For each one, look just below the picture of the bullet and find where it says "Recoil Factor." That shows the theoretical amount of recoil for the gun. So, the recoil of the .22 listed would move a 0.26 pound weight a foot, the .25 would move a 0.61 pound weight, the .380 would move a 3.69 pound weight, and the same gun in 9mm would move a 7.72 pound weight. That will only start to give you an idea about recoil.

.22 Ruger SR22
.25 Heritage H25
.380 Ruger LC380
9mm Ruger LC9

Here's the Kel-Tec your friend has offered, which has nearly as much recoil as the 9mm Ruger above (and would sting your hand more because the recoil is fast and sharp).
.380 Kel-Tec P3AT

Finally, a big, heavy gun to show what extra weight does to reduce recoil.
9mm SIG P226
Wow, interesting stuff! How do you guys find all this?
 
I must not be "managing" my time well....I guess I could watch less Top Gear?

Also some of us have been in the hobby for a looooooooong time. It’s just become data in the back of our minds over time ... I might forget birthdays, anniversaries or such but I can remember the holdover on M118 ammo.
 
My friend says he'll let me shoot his kel teck (sp?) 380 semi auto. We didn't have a big discussion,but will it kick less than the .38 revolver? More than a 22? It's smallish, he said. You can tell we didn't talk for long! Just askin'.... Is it .380 or just 380. He agrees on not shooting the .38 in the yard, he has more space.

Like the others said, just a 9 short, or short 9. My Smith & Wesson M&P Bodyguard is not fun to shoot, but I love love love carrying it. It doesn’t hurt, just not fun. And boy does it run flawlessly with Hornady Critical Defense.
 
Are they the same ammo? Or two different kinds?
 
Yes.
Other names for .380 ACP include .380 Auto, 9mm Browning, 9mm Corto, 9mm Kurz, 9mm Short, 9Ă—17mm and 9 mm Browning Court (which is the C.I.P. designation).
 
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There is a huge amount of information available about firearms - literally much more than you could absorb in years.

While reading is good, doing is better. Try as many guns as you possibly can before you decide on your next one.
 
I have a S&W 3913 9mm and a small light weight .380. The .380 kicks a lot more than the 9mm. It is because of the light weight. It is no fun to shoot. So I would think the .380 will kick much more than your .25
 
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