backwoodsshooter
there’s always a method to the madness
Talk is cheap from an e-warrior. He gonna be the first one to come and confiscate them? Nope cause big vagina
Another school shooting. Florida High School.
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Talk is cheap from an e-warrior. He gonna be the first one to come and confiscate them? Nope cause big vagina
Correct. These are the people that probably got their big brother or Daddy to go talk to the bully instead of having some stones and taking a swing.
Full disclosure: I took a few swings as a kid. And once I ended up getting my ass beat to hell. Not fun.
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I about deleted my Facebook account. couple people I've known for decades have gone stark raving mad. I even bet him the law enforcement failed and it had nothing to do with supposed ease of purchase and when that all came up he just keeps on screaming that 1200 shootings happened since sandy hook, posting stupid graphs, saying the AR-15 can be easily modified to full automatic. holy crap I thought the trump is always right crowd was crazy, and boy did he hate that when I said that to him.
Ask him if he's going to be kicking in doors, then post his response
We are one election away from the end of buying AKs and ARs. We only have our selves to blame. Gun owners should have collectively invested into large media outlets. Those who control the media, control the mindset of the country. The next generation of adults will be few gun owners.
All of this info is pretty damning. Frustrating that the convo in DC always turns to enacting new laws when current policies aren't working due to poor executing.
Ok, don't take this personally. But for EVERYONE reading, why the bleep are you on Facebook? You might as well hand Soros and Bloomberg $$ to run anti gun ads. I know almost none of us, me included, can eliminate all our supoort for Marxist anti's, but Facebook should be easy. If you feel the need to get in a pissing match online there are more than a few people on here that will take you up on that.
But I *LIKE* peeing into the wind.
I like to think if we walk away, we let the echo chamber continue. Someone has to point out the lies. Otherwise, it's a 3600 round per minute gun that 9 year olds can buy. I've challenged any of them to come out to a range with me and handle the thing for themselves. Believe it or not converted a few people over the last few years. If trends continue I'm concerned it'll be a generation or so and firearms will be gone.
backwoodsshooter
there’s always a method to the madness
Bruh, you are so 1997 if you don’t have Facebook. How would people live without their social media warrior fight of the day.
Can't fix stupid. And you certainly can't fix evil. And if you think you can you certainly can't do so online. Heck, people on this site can't change minds with like-minded people on some topics. Online is a horrible way to argue and educate.
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Large establishment media outlets did largely define public opinion in the past. Luckily, the proliferation of alternative sources of information through the expansion of the internet ended the establishment media's effective monopoly on thought by at least the 1990s. The excesses that have developed in the media as people progressively ignored their propaganda have largely destroyed the credibility of the establishment media.
Yeah, cuz I remember the last time we all came together and were like “Dude...let’s buy us a news channel.”
You know why we don’t? Because we spend that money in the BST section.
Look, we already have the NRA, GOA, that thing in NC that that irritating bugger abalone heads up, and all those things speaking out. There ain’t a “let’s all buy the media” angle. Gun ownership, while in the DNA of America, is divided amongst itself so many ways that coming together isn’t just impossible, it’s moronic. I won’t align myself with the “I support the second, but...” fuds out there. Nor should I even want to. They would gladly sell my freedoms away so they can cling to their precious skeet gun or venerable old 6 shooter.
In 200 years from now, if the Lord tarries and the country survives, guns may be 100% outlawed. But I’ll go down as one of those clingers that was willing to sacrifice security for freedom. The other fuds be damned.
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backwoodsshooter
there’s always a method to the madness
Maybe. But I'd like to think I am closer to 1957 than 1997!
The wife and I agree we were born in the wrong time era. 1920/30s we should have been born in.
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God never left the schools, thats not the problem. Want to pray - join the Christian club or whatever IE: we have Prayer group each Tuesday or Thursday, cant remember, for students, faculty prayer meeting is 730 each Wednesday. Join the FCA - Fellowship of Christian Athletes. There are many Christian groups at public schools.
Banning guns aint it either. Guns arent a new thing, they arent the issue.
I get so fed up with ignorant people talking about crap they know nothing about. I get so fed up with hearing 'automatic weapon' when there is a 99.9999999% chance it wasnt. Maybe 99.99999999.
Also AR15s are this super powerful weapon, either.
To a poster way earlier in this thread talking about cutting free breakfast and lunch - STOP. I know you probably think it's a waste of money because illegals get it, but what about the American citizens who have nothing else? We have kids who get two meals a day - they're both at school. They're taking ketchup packets and random stuff home with them for weekends.
SROs in the schools is good...but one or two people in a huge building isnt enough (and Im not saying we need more). It's just too much ground to cover and they, at times, also have their hands tied up dealing with another issue.
Also keep in mind how many doors there are in a school. Im at a 2A school, about 900 kids. I can think of 7 sets of double doors. Another four single. Yes, they are locked after 8am (or thereabouts, not sure of exact time cause Im working), but all it would take is one friend to 'go to the bathroom' and open a door for one of these sickos.
My thoughts go to each and every student at that school, each parent and loved ones of those students, and every faculty member.
I hate that they've had to go through such a traumatic situation, I hate that our nation has had to go through another traumatic situation (this event, like others, spawns copy-cats and folks who want to start making threats - in the Triad there were at least 3 since this event that I know of).
Im glad they caught him alive, that he didnt off himself and take the quick way out.
Banning guns aint it either. Guns arent a new thing, they arent the issue.
I get so fed up with ignorant people talking about crap they know nothing about. I get so fed up with hearing 'automatic weapon' when there is a 99.9999999% chance it wasnt. Maybe 99.99999999.
Also AR15s are this super powerful weapon, either.
To a poster way earlier in this thread talking about cutting free breakfast and lunch - STOP. I know you probably think it's a waste of money because illegals get it, but what about the American citizens who have nothing else? We have kids who get two meals a day - they're both at school. They're taking ketchup packets and random stuff home with them for weekends.
SROs in the schools is good...but one or two people in a huge building isnt enough (and Im not saying we need more). It's just too much ground to cover and they, at times, also have their hands tied up dealing with another issue.
Also keep in mind how many doors there are in a school. Im at a 2A school, about 900 kids. I can think of 7 sets of double doors. Another four single. Yes, they are locked after 8am (or thereabouts, not sure of exact time cause Im working), but all it would take is one friend to 'go to the bathroom' and open a door for one of these sickos.
My thoughts go to each and every student at that school, each parent and loved ones of those students, and every faculty member.
I hate that they've had to go through such a traumatic situation, I hate that our nation has had to go through another traumatic situation (this event, like others, spawns copy-cats and folks who want to start making threats - in the Triad there were at least 3 since this event that I know of).
Im glad they caught him alive, that he didnt off himself and take the quick way out.
backwoodsshooter
there’s always a method to the madness
Stand by, the apocalypse is near:
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You remember the child that shot the officer’s service pistol? They counted that as a school shooting lol
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No doubt I about swallowed my tounge.
Great, now we have a additions, cause to denounce their credibility on the subject matter.
You completely miss the point. Nobody is saying there are not groups within public schools that kids can join to share Christian values. But the school systems have systematically removed prayer from schools, many are removing all signs of patriotic support for our nation like reciting the pledge of allegiance each morning. These things were the norm in years past in schools all around the country and these mass school shooting were basically unheard of prior to the 90's. So what changed? Guns have always been here, what changed is the social degradation of society, which includes loss of Christian values and morals. You think the schools can teach children right from wrong? If so its not working.
While the U.S. Constitution is a wholly secular document, the founding fathers for the most part were men of deep Christian faith and the values of this faith are the foundation for this nation and our the bill of rights. These values are so closely weaved into our nations core that if you remove them it all falls apart.....which is exactly what we are experiencing now, and what these mass shootings are a direct bi-product of.
.....as always just default to the voices of the Fathers for guidance and wisdom;
"In the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior. The Declaration of Independence laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity".
John Quincy Adams
"Sensible of the importance of Christian piety and virtue to the order and happiness of a state, I cannot but earnestly commend to you every measure for their support and encouragement".
John Hancock
"The great pillars of all government and of social life [are] virtue, morality, and religion. This is the armor, my friend, and this alone, that renders us invincible".
Patrick Henry
"The practice of morality being necessary for the well being of society, He [God] has taken care to impress its precepts so indelibly on our hearts that they shall not be effaced by the subtleties of our brain. We all agree in the obligation of the moral principles of Jesus and nowhere will they be found delivered in greater purity than in His discourses."
Thomas Jefferson
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I dont remember prayer ever being in school (since the late 80s).
And what of the non-Christian kids, piss on them for being the 'wrong' religion?
The pledge is said at every school in my county each and every day. 9:42 (ish) if youre interested in coming by my work and finding out for yourselves.
And it shouldnt be up to the schools, entirely, to teach right from wrong.
I personally don't care what God you pray too.........just pray to something bigger than yourself. Children of other religions can pray to their deity while the Christians pray to their God...the point is just bring back prayer and the moral responsibility that goes with it back. The proof speaks for its self......these issues were not a problem 30 years ago. We all know the complexities of the social ills this nation is now enduring, but the foundation of these ills is removing God from the daily equation
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Why must one pray to a God?
Now we're shoving religion down someone's throat when they might be totally fine being a non-believer.
Besides, a young person is in school, mostly, from 8-3 each day - still a lot of time to have God in their daily equation.
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RedneckFur
Smith & Wesson is a religion of peace.
Being hung, burned at the stake, having your head chopped off, or being drawn and quartered didn't discourage crime back in the old days. I know its a hard concept to understand for some, but just like banning guns doesn't stop bad guys from being bad, Making the punishments extra-nasty doesn't stop them either.
One of the most popular places in the old days for pickpockets to rob people blind was a public hangings, because the people there thought there was no way a pickpocket would rob them where one of their own was being hung for committing the same crime.
RedneckFur
Smith & Wesson is a religion of peace.
The founding fathers were not men of a "deep christian faith" A great many of them were deists, who were the agnostics of their day. (They believed that a creator likely made the universe, but generally didn't concern itself with its creation after the fact.) It only takes 5 minutes of research to find just as many quotes from out founding fathers critical of Christianity, and religion as a whole, and warning future generations to to keep a firm separation between faith and government.
A great many were, and a great many weren’t. Just as people are diverse today, they were then. And they all, for the most part, encouraged separation of church and state i large part due to their interaction and experience with the Church of England being used as a political tool by the Kong’s.
We he argument is circular.
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Bunk, pure BS. Were all the founding fathers deeply religious, certainly not but the most were and these Christian precepts were and still are the moral fiber that holds the Republic together. The US is a Christian nation and always will be, until it stops being one, and that my friend will be the end of this nation. It is already unraveling now sadly.
I personally don't attend Church regularly, never have, but I have my own belief system based on my interpretation of the Bible. My personal opinions are based on historical facts not religious fever. I was a history major in college and have studied this area of history for 35 years or more. This nation would never have existed without Christianity and IMO will not continue to exist unless we change our ways as a nation. You need to do a bit more than 5 minutes of slanted wiki research and then we can debate the topic.
From FDR"s 1939 State of the Union Address
"Storms from abroad directly challenge three institutions indispensable to Americans, now as always. The first is religion. It is the source of the other two--democracy and international good faith.
Religion, by teaching man his relationship to God, gives the individual a sense of his own dignity and teaches him to respect himself by respecting his neighbors.
Democracy, the practice of self-government, is a covenant among free men to respect the rights and liberties of their fellows.
International good faith, a sister of democracy, springs from the will of civilized nations of men to respect the rights and liberties of other nations of men.
In a modern civilization, all three--religion, democracy and international good faith--complement and support each other".
This line from his speech, hits the nail on the head as to the problems we see today in our warped society.......
"Religion, by teaching man his relationship to God, gives the individual a sense of his own dignity and teaches him to respect himself by respecting his neighbors".
Without it, you get what we have now to deal with. Like him or hate him FDR held this nation together through the Great Depression and WW2, and no American before or since has had the influence or sway over the American people like he did, and he clearly knew the role religion had to bind our nation and people together.
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Maybe he was planing to use an AK would have got the Feds attention. Makes as much logical sense as the rest of the Russian links.
OverMountainMan
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I usually read the entire thread before wading in, but didn't this time. Pardon me if the following has been posted already. Funny that once again, in a subject that touches on the deranged, I find myself in agreement with this guy:
...Because I had read, this morning, this post by Miss Ann B, advocating for those very institutions that isolate and treat the truly insane. But, as she says, it's not just treating the crazy, but to stop MAKING them crazy by putting them on Anti-Depressants. We always hear that so-and-so went off his meds, and did that unimaginable thing. Well, it's like that high blood pressure medication: your blood pressure is high, at least in part, because your body is naturally fighting something by elevating your BP. Your braniac doctor, as much a creature of conformity (and invested heavily in big pharma, himself) doses out that BP pill to fix that particularly uncomfortable/inconvenient symptom. And your body has to fight that much harder to get itself well. Samey-same with the Anti-Depressants.
To @CZfool68 - I agree that we are the ones the Cultural Marxists would love to lock away in asylums. But, I think the solution is to stop playing nice when they try to gaslight us.
...Because I had read, this morning, this post by Miss Ann B, advocating for those very institutions that isolate and treat the truly insane. But, as she says, it's not just treating the crazy, but to stop MAKING them crazy by putting them on Anti-Depressants. We always hear that so-and-so went off his meds, and did that unimaginable thing. Well, it's like that high blood pressure medication: your blood pressure is high, at least in part, because your body is naturally fighting something by elevating your BP. Your braniac doctor, as much a creature of conformity (and invested heavily in big pharma, himself) doses out that BP pill to fix that particularly uncomfortable/inconvenient symptom. And your body has to fight that much harder to get itself well. Samey-same with the Anti-Depressants.
"Hey, maybe we should start talking about the fact that so-called “depression” oftentimes is a function of people living their lives wallowing in mortal sin. You know what? If you live a wretched, dissolute life, YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD. It’s called “shame”. It’s called “the pangs of conscience”. If your life is a fetid, raging dumpster fire of sin and moral disorder, guess what sweetie – YOU SHOULD BE DEPRESSED.
Pumping people full of antidepressants in order to dull their consciences? SOUNDS LIKE A CONSPIRACY TO ME."
Pumping people full of antidepressants in order to dull their consciences? SOUNDS LIKE A CONSPIRACY TO ME."
Since this has gone on 9 pages and probably destined for 9 more the truth is still the truth. One teacher with a weapon and the will could have possibly stopped this whole massacre.....Probably might be more accurate! Until dreamfairies stop pushing an agenda and start a fact campaign we will be listening to this song over and over unfortunately!
I say start here with #poptart.45 for the yunguns! Maybe the adults can get a clue.....
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I say start here with #poptart.45 for the yunguns! Maybe the adults can get a clue.....
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MadMan4Ever
Sig-Sauer devotee
Time to join up with GRNC folks... I don’t think much will happen at the federal level, but states levels are iffy. :/
If you don’t get the alerts, now is a good time to sign up for them.
I’d also say if you folks talk to lefties any on this issue, I’d caution you to use all your restraint to stay calm, don’t throw insults, and just walk away if you think you are going to start going crazy.
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I’d also say if you folks talk to lefties any on this issue, I’d caution you to use all your restraint to stay calm, don’t throw insults, and just walk away if you think you are going to start going crazy.
Something I've seen that kind of drives me crazy. They are so worried about kids being traumatized that they want to tear down the entire building. Maybe it's just me being a horrible human but I think that is just wasteful. Think what they could do just for security with the cost of a building. Am I the only one?
it's wasteful, but it's pretty symbolic too for some. I don't know how I'd feel if say my older two kids were killed and then my younger two kids had to go to the same hallway it happened. Bad juju. our top heavy education system wastes so much money as it is, the people that could make use of it never see it.
I was watching The Yankee Marshall on youtube and he was relating his experience with the resource officers. They're not allowed to talk to the kids and are paged out pretty frequently. Does anyone know if we do that in NC? I'd prefer the kids get to know and respect the officer and be willing to talk to him or her vs it being a revolving door of folks that won't talk to you and are only there to arrest kids. I don't have the answer, but in this particular case it's pretty clear the FBI and possibly even the local law enforcement stepped on their dicks.
I had the exact same conversation with my wife the other night.
We have an SRO, he’s a good dude. My school has had a revolving door of SROs though. They interact w the kids and walk the halls regularly.
The SRO Sgt is a good friend of mine, great guy.
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