Anti-white/violent group topples confederate statue in Durham.

Cpippen said:
It's NCCU, they will give her an honorary PHd instead of kicking her out.
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Interesting how she spoke her mind at her press conference.

Thompson said at a press conference that she was “tired of white supremacy keeping its foot on my neck.”
Spoken like a true proletariat, she added, “The people decided to take matters into our own hands and remove the statue.”
 
Button Pusher said:
Interesting how she spoke her mind at her press conference.

Thompson said at a press conference that she was “tired of white supremacy keeping its foot on my neck.”
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Too bad. She could have shown up a bit early, gone inside the building, and asked Bill Bell or Wendell Davis for some advice. All the white supremacy doesn't seem to have held them down in this town. Or maybe now she'll get some tips from the police chief.
 
BurnedOutGeek said:
That all depends on your definition of "great".

I still see greatness in a good portion of our fine country, sadly though, I also see the antithesis a fair amount too. Having been all over the world I can still say with total certainty that WE are the last best hope for this world.
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Even the poorest of our poor in this country are Bill Gates to millions, if not a billion or more, in other countries. I think I'll stay here.
 
Tom7 said:
And the Jefferson Memorial....
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And the University of VA, Monticello should be burned to the ground since it was obtained by profiting off the backs of slaves and the Washington Monument, etc etc etc.
 
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Button Pusher said:
And the University of VA, Monticello should be burned to the ground since it was obtained by profiting off the backs of slaves and the Washington Monument, etc etc etc.
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Hey, let's keep it going!
Burn the White House down too! Michelle said it was built by slaves!
 
Hmmm...

Might be a war of attrition with respect to statue-pulling-down and statue-vandalism.

For instance, the statues of Lenin in Seattle, NYC, Atlantic City, Los Angeles, and Las Vegas.

Then there's the Haymarket Martyr's Monument in Forest Park, Il.

And how about the Emma Goldman Gazebo at Beloit College?

The Industrial Workers of the World (IWW) mural in Centralia, WA?

Poncho Villa statue in Tuscon, gifted by Mexico?

Any number of MLK statues and memorials across the country?

More recent prominent figures, like Senator Robert Byrd statues and memorials? 'Cause, you know, this Democrat Senator was a member of the KKK.
 
Lawless said:
You misunderstood Steve Mirac, he was being facetious
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No, I didn't . I got that. I should have added, " to them " or a smilie or roll my eyes.
They don't get how stupid what they say is, to a normal person.
 
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noway2 said:
Um, me thinks this sheriff is full of it: you can't carry at a demonstration, it's prohibited to carry into a restaurant serving alcohol.....hmmm .. sounds like the old rules.
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Rules still apply to open carry, not concealed.
 
ABC 11 just had a live press conference with the Vietnames troll. Cong Jr. said they were now fighting a war.
 
BurnedOutGeek said:
Or God forbid laws get enforced...
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The law is nothin more than the tool of the political class and can be and is always flexed, bent, or broken to serve their purposes.

This is a contest between Wills.

Until folks understand that and act accordingly, one group will continue to run amok while the other side mews meekly about the law.

Being law abiding in a society in which the corrupt write and enforce (or not enforce) the law is no virtue.
 
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SPM said:
The law is nothin more than the tool of the political class and can be and is always flexed, bent, or broken to serve their purposes.

This is a contest between Wills.

Until folks understand that and act accordingly, one group will continue to run amok while the other side mews meekly about the law.

Being law abiding in a society in which the corrupt write and enforce (or not enforce) the law is no virtue.
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I agree. My point, however, was to apply their force where it should be applied rather than making crap up that should be of no consequence. I know, naivete on my part.
 
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Took my Great Grandfather three weeks to walk home from VA to Western Maryland to his burned out farm and murdered family as he raised his hand for a Southern way of life.

Only my Grandfather was the only son from his second marriage in 1891.
 
SPM said:
The law is nothin more than the tool of the political class and can be and is always flexed, bent, or broken to serve their purposes.
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Correct. This is not a "law enforcement" matter for it is far more than an isolated case of vandalism. It is a symptom of a festering attitude, or rather more appropriately a zeitgeist, held by a segment of the population.

This is a contest between Wills.
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Indeed it is. We are being challenged, physically and with growing provocation. The question is how to respond.

Until folks understand that and act accordingly, one group will continue to run amok while the other side mews meekly about the law.
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Here we get at the crux of the problem, both in terms of the immediate surface problem, that of destruction of property, and the core problem of people having been conditioned to both prostrating themselves before the State for any semblance of justice as well as constraining themselves to their response being ordained by the state. The "law" is not an absolute. It is nothing but words and dictates of a segment of the population that through various ritualistic means has gained acceptance in the eyes of the majority of the people as somehow having some special power over said majority. It is an irrational concept.

Being law abiding in a society in which the corrupt write and enforce (or not enforce) the law is no virtue.
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Agreed. Likewise I do not believe that the correct response, the virtuous response, lies with the confines of the "law". In fact, the response from Duke which basically paraphrases as those committing these acts have forfeited their claim of rights under the "law" by virtue of the fact that they have chosen to violate other people's rights. The question is, what to do about it. These incidents, as offensive as they are, are not in and of themselves sufficient for me to engage in retaliatory action, especially without the protection of a group sufficient in size to afford protection and I suspect that many others feel the same way. This leads me to this (other) forum post that I came across this morning, that I think is exceedingly insightful and describes what we are seeing: a catalyst event:
I'd suggest a trigger in a military crisis would be the event that sends a lot of young to the recruiting center. In the Civil War, by that standard, Fort Sumter would be the trigger. Modern Charlottesville would not be.

But there are 'catalyst' events and markers which escalate tensions and demonstrate how some people feel about issues without being the immediate cause of open conflict. Modern Charlottesville, Harper's Ferry and the election of Lincoln could easily be given the catalyst tag. Generally, you don't get to the trigger without a number of catalysts first.
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BurnedOutGeek said:
I agree. My point, however, was to apply their force where it should be applied rather than making crap up that should be of no consequence. I know, naivete on my part.
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A natural extension of this idea is who should be applying the force. Must we, and more importantly is it proper that "We The People" remain restrained in the use of force and instead petition its use by the Crown, or would "We The People" be justified in directly applying force?
 
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A natural extension of this idea is who should be applying the force. Must we, and more importantly is it proper that "We The People" remain restrained in the use of force and instead petition its use by the Crown, or would "We The People" be justified in directly applying force?
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Who you think would get arrested?

We all know the answer to that one...
 
BurnedOutGeek said:
Who you think would get arrested?

We all know the answer to that one...
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Agreed, but that too is an extension of the situation and question(s) that need to be asked and addressed. If people have reached the point where they are willing to say "law be damned" would it make sense to them to then supplicate themselves before such law or the agents of the law? When the country's founding fathers, the revolutionaries, finally reached the point where they were willing to act did they do so with the idea of accepting arrest under the Crown's law? I would say that the evidence says that they did not but rather they understood that once they started pulling the trigger they could not hesitate to do so again and again and knew they could not stop because the other side would not. However, the evidence also shows that when they did finally act, and I am sure that it was done with both great reservation as well as conviction, they also did so as a group rather than as lone individuals. This too shows one of the areas where our "side" is behind - in that the other "side" has begun acting as a group and has clearly demonstrated a willingness to both act outside of the boundaries of the Crown's "law" and in violation of other's rights.

This is why I think the categorization of this being a catalyst event that is a foreshadowing of an actual triggering event is correct. While it is causing a building of anger and possibly hatred, a hardening of hearts and steeling of resolve, it is not sufficient to cause people to take up arms and act.
 
And so it escalates: Durham Activists Turn Themselves in to Police in Solidarity With Those Arrested for Toppling Statue(link here)
On Monday activists in Durham, North Carolina pulled down a statue of a Confederate soldier in the city, in response to the recent deadly white-nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia. Soon after, the Durham Sheriff started arresting protesters who allegedly participated in the toppling of the statue. But on Thursday morning, dozens of people rallied against the charges and attempted to turn themselves in as well, in a moving show of solidarity.

Shortly afterward, deputies reportedly began raiding the houses of those believed to be involved in the demonstration and arrested four people, including North Carolina Central University student Takiya Thompson. “I chose to do that because I am tired of living in fear. I am tired of white supremacy keeping its foot on my neck and the neck of people who look like me,” Thompson said before her arrest. “I was inspired by a history of black activists and history of black organizing.”
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And simultaneously, while we're studying the obvious near enemies of AntiFa, BLM, and their bedfellows and puppet-masters, there are any number of other black swans fixing to present themselves. Not the least of which is a global economy that frankly cannot continue to not explode.

It'd be nice to have an army of 100k. But when the S hits the F, I expect we'll each be very much alone. I hope there are 100k little one-man armies, just like mine.
 
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Inglis said:
Took my Great Grandfather three weeks to walk home from VA to Western Maryland to his burned out farm and murdered family as he raised his hand for a Southern way of life.

Only my Grandfather was the only son from his second marriage in 1891.
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Same here. CP Green was wounded twice at Gettysburg. Walked home to find his wife dead. He remarried. No money. Land was seized cause they couldn't pay the taxes.

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Same here. CP Green was wounded twice at Gettysburg. Walked home to find his wife dead. He remarried. No money. Land was seized cause they couldn't pay the taxes.

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Hope you never have to defend that marker from the vandals. If you do, I'd try to be there to back you up. I have two that are similar.
 
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