Colonial Pipeline cyberattack

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As a right now, it has been down for 24 hours and they have no estimated time of when it will be back up and running. (info provided by relative who works for CP).
 
It's no surprise. With 25+years in the gasoline industry, when they THINK they are loosing money SOMETHING happens. The Magellan distribution terminals did something like this a few years ago and their stock prices recovered 2.35x over the next year.

Not saying it isn't true. But I'm very skeptical
 
Guberment wants us to get Chevy Bolt or maybe something even smaller. It will be just like health care under Hussein, buy health care or pay a fine (or as justice Roberts calls it a tax).
 
They can hack about anything … power grid, train lines (cargo shipping as well as people travel) … hell they could possibly hack the FAA for air travel. I have become more suspicious of hacking damage than other forms of outside our borders “influences”.
 
And I needed gas in all my vehicles and gas for the lawnmower. 🤬
 
I just filled up at 2.79, same price as yesterday. curious what is actually going to happen
 
Exxon station near me went up 9 cents since yesterday. From 2.75 to 2.84. Still a hell of lot better than my son in San Francisco. He paid 4.79 per gallon last week to fill a Prius ($40)
 
Paid $68 for 2 5 gallon cans(needed refilled anyway) and wife's car.

Brother is borrowing my truck as his is in the shop. He better bring it back with a full tank.
 
I don’t know if it’s true but my BIL just said the hack was by Ransom Ware … somebody in HO musta been watching porn. Anyway if he’s correct gotta wonder how much DarkSide will want to release it … their record is $2 million in Canada last year.
 
12151791 said:
Guberment wants us to get Chevy Bolt or maybe something even smaller.
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I ain't playin that game....I want 500 HP at about 17 mpg. My hope is that $4 gas will take some of this Rif Raf off the road.

Gas here is up $1 per gallon since last November.....
 
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VA_GENTLEMAN said:
There are no such things as coincidences.

These "coincidences" are happening, what ever they may be, are occurring with peculiar regularity now.
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Agreed. The only question is are these things being done by foreign powers or the bad actors in our own government? And it is really sad that we have to even consider that.
 
VA_GENTLEMAN said:
There are no such things as coincidences.

These "coincidences" are happening, what ever they may be, are occurring with peculiar regularity now.
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Not a coincidence. Basically, ten years ago, cybersecurity was, "buy a multimillion dollar tool, let it run." Strong wall, no back court game.

With more people getting into cyber, and red teamers, both normal groups and nationstates, improving their professionalism and development skills, there's been an explosion of novel and mutating malware. It used to be that the big stuff was rare, because it took a lot of work to make the malware for it. Now, teams can focus on just the big stuff that hurts

Add to that that critical infrastructure, you don't see "patch Tuesday," you see "patch September," it's the perfect storm of rapidly escalating offensive skills, defenders playing catchup, and ics stuff being, by design, outdated.

This is gonna keep happening, until defense catches up to offense. No need to look for a conspiracy theory, the truth is a lot more frightening.
 
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smithnwesley said:
no critical system should be in the cloud or on the net. you can almost completely remove threats by requiring physical access. internal threats would be much easier to prevent and contain.
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On the other hand, you could argue that critical infrastructure, that could cause widespread damage in life of other things, requires OoBM as a failsafe, so we're back at square one.
 
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Someone else can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the gasoline "pipeline" or buffer is about 3 days. Colonial is shut down and has been for 24hrs. with an uncertain restart time. If they don't figure it out, come Monday or Tuesday, it won't be a question of price, but simple availability. I'm assuming tanker trucks are already rolling from the gulf to abate the problem. But, the other problem is if the general public starts to panic, there won't be gas anywhere. This happened several years ago, when they announced a major storm might shutdown the refineries for a few days. The public panicked and there was a run on gas. I had half a tank and said I'll just get some when I see a station with some available. 3 days later I hadn't happened across a station with any yet and went on the hunt with only enough gas to either find it or not make it home.
Funny thing was, the storm missed the refineries, the supply was not disrupted at all, but you still couldn't find gas anywhere because of the run. Colonial supplies most of the Southeastern Seaboard. That will be the scope of the panic. It's not just the actual supply chain, which in this case is actually shut down, but the public panic that will suck it all up, overnight.

I topped off tonight at a high volume station by I-85 and a couple of pumps were already bagged. I'll bet you won't be able to find a gas can in a store either.


Just sayin'
 
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Ransomware is easily mitigated. The weak link is all the idiots with email.

Scratch that. It's just the idiots.
 
Les White said:
Ransomware is easily mitigated. The weak link is all the idiots with email.

Scratch that. It's just the idiots.
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That and insufficient budgets. Or rather, inappropriately funded budgets. Back during the millennium transition, I worked on some of the IT risk mitigation teams. One good thing that came out of that was it made companies review their IT infrastructure and actually spend money on them. Many systems were limping along for years, out of date, unsupportable, mis-configured, etc, etc...
Even before the millennium transition, that was my job. I was the dreaded "consultant", the hired gun, the guy with the briefcase. I came in a reviewed network infrastructures. Most of the time upper management didn't even know what they had or didn't have. That was usually Section 1 of the report, this is what you have. They relied on "Bob" and often "Bob" didn't know what he was doing. And they were all reluctant to spend money. The couldn't wrap their heads around the cost/risk to their business.
 
Goofyfoot2001 said:
How do those even work?
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We use it as we get groceries and some prescriptions there, and save enough to make it worthwhile. The nearby Costco has the best listed pump price in the area and I can usually beat that by $0.10 - 0.20/gallon with points at H-T, and don't have to deal with the long lines at Costco.
 
yeah, getting $1.00 off per gallon from kroger/HT is a nice deal when you can get it.
Me and my wife used to break the rules a lot when we lived by a couple of Kroger stores. her mom bought all her groceries at a HT that didn't have a gas station on our account. we bought all our groceries on our account. Then when we had a big pile of points to use, we'd pull both cars up to the pump and fill them both on that $1 off. Made a big difference during some of the obama spikes.
 
This is why I bought a gas sipper a few
Months back. I knew the 28 mpg on was Scion wasn’t going to be enough
 
Dale Gribble said:
Keep at least 25 gallons stored in reserve. Rotate it out every 2 or 3 months.
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I rotate 89 octane no ethanol into my truck every six months, no stabilizer, and the truck doesn’t seem to notice.
 
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