Dallas officer goes home to wrong apartment, kills man inside

Cowboy said:
Guilty of murder so much for that blue line
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BurnedOutGeek said:
NBC News: Amber Guyger found guilty of murder at trial in fatal shooting of neighbor Botham Jean.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...trial-fatal-shooting-neighbor-botham-n1060506
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Spartan01 said:
Op,
Just my two cents,
But since words do I fact have meanings,
and since I am sure you don’t want to be lumped in with the leftards that disagree with the first part of this sentence, you are wrong-
She did, in fact, homicide him. That is fact and not debatable.
However, she is on trial for murder, and she is innocent until proven guilty, that is, unless you are in fact a leftard and have already convicted her.
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@Spartan01 - Do I have your permission to leave my thread title as is? I'm even willing to refund your 2¢.....

Asking for me.....
 
SPM said:
For what crime? That a police officer too exhausted to identify her own resident but wide awake enough to sext her married lover might barge in and kill you, then subsequently escape justice?

I'm truly curious what angle the suit would take....
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Civil Actions only against the apartment complex.
 
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Was there a motive established in this murder?
 
12151791 said:
Was there a motive established in this murder?
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I have not seen, but they don't have to prove motive. For what it's worth, the jury convicted of murder, and they could have convicted of the lesser charge of manslaughter. So the jury thought something was there.
 
''And this is just another example of why we need to pass comprehensive common sense gun control legislation"
 
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Johnny said:
''And this is just another example of why we need to pass comprehensive common sense gun control legislation"
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And that's right in line with the town in Vermont (I think) whose latest idea is to disarm their police force.
 
JohnFreeman said:
I'm having a hard time grasping why having an apartment building that has "N" uniformly painted doors is in any way negligent....
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texas is a 51% negligence state. So it might be a stretch but if you don't think some attorney wouldn't try it your crazy. But "if" there is a history of complaints about lack of identifying signage and then the Texas ranger has already testified that 30% of the people have made the mistake. The correlation writes its self between the shooting being a perfect storm that could have been avoided with proper signage of floors and apartments. Yeah it's a stretch but the Texas Rangers have already laid out the foundation of a law suit.
 
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Any reason why people couldn't just put an identifying sign or ornament on their own doors?

Terry
 
Found guilty of murder ... what specific murder charge? The news says she can be sentenced to as few as 5 years up to 99. I have no clue as to Texas murder levels but I’m guessing the charge is not the premeditated capital murder type ... more like negligent homicide type.
 
Glad she was convicted. Shocked it wasn't manslaughter though... That was what I was expecting in a fair court...

Tinfoil on... DA gag order deal a setup for appeal?

Probably not but who knows...
 
bigfelipe said:
Glad she was convicted. Shocked it wasn't manslaughter though... That was what I was expecting in a fair court...

Tinfoil on... DA gag order deal a setup for appeal?

Probably not but who knows...
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I agree. This is not more than manslaughter. Could be a car, could be a gun. It’s still manslaughter. Someone has set up a way for her conviction to be over turned. In the meantime there are no riots in the city.
 
So this was actually perfect. She got convicted to avoid the civil uprising. DA acts stupid to set up a later appeal. She serves some cushy time, you know in protective custody because she being a cop will get killed in gen pop. After the shit storm settles, her attorney appeals it, and she walks because of the DA's loose lips. Makes sense. My tinfoil hat is cutting off the circulation to my hair, and some one is knocking on the door.... I have to go.
 
Coltdefender1911 said:
She got convicted to avoid the civil uprising.
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I caught a news blurb on NPR (can only stand it in small doses these days) where even they said that they suspected the conviction was because the victim was black and so was most of the jury. I thought this was an odd statement coming from them.
 
If she walks for murder, this will be the one time I wouldn’t have any problem with Not-so-Sharpton and Not-a-Rev Jackson cause a riot and tear the judges/cops playhouse down to the ground.
 
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noway2 said:
I caught a news blurb on NPR (can only stand it in small doses these days) where even they said that they suspected the conviction was because the victim was black and so was most of the jury. I thought this was an odd statement coming from them.
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I heard on the news that during trial it came out that she had been known to be rampantly racist in the past. Text messages she had sent out recently, while in duty, and some while providing security at a MLK parade. That mixed with the fact that the shot fired indicated that the guy wasn't coming at her, there were more than one, and when he was down her first reaction was to text her boyfriend that she had "really fu*ked up" and needed his help as opposed to using her first air and CPR training or at least calling for medical help. So you have a perfect storm where she was (with her own help) painted as a rampant racist who killed an unarmed black man in his home who was by all accounts an absolute choir boy.
 
I would think Criminally Negligent Homicide would be appropriate,
not like she walked into a Circle K and killed the clerk.

I think she will appeal.
 
bigfelipe said:
Glad she was convicted. Shocked it wasn't manslaughter though... That was what I was expecting in a fair court...

Tinfoil on... DA gag order deal a setup for appeal?

Probably not but who knows...
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The judge was apoplectic that the DA held a presser with a gag order. The video was pretty funny. How could the DA not remember the gag order? I could see it more of a motive to present grounds for appeal than a slip of legal and procedural stupidity....
 
Chuckman said:
The judge was apoplectic that the DA held a presser with a gag order. The video was pretty funny. How could the DA not remember the gag order? I could see it more of a motive to present grounds for appeal than a slip of legal and procedural stupidity....
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It's not like the local Ada that worked her cases on a weekly basis was the one that worked the case. Chances are and I have no first hand knowledge of it but I would say it was turned over to the states attorney general's office. That being said those in that position are head hunters and would do nothing to chance their case simply because they are that vain.
 
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B00ger said:
I heard on the news that during trial it came out that she had been known to be rampantly racist in the past. Text messages she had sent out recently, while in duty, and some while providing security at a MLK parade. That mixed with the fact that the shot fired indicated that the guy wasn't coming at her, there were more than one, and when he was down her first reaction was to text her boyfriend that she had "really fu*ked up" and needed his help as opposed to using her first air and CPR training or at least calling for medical help. So you have a perfect storm where she was (with her own help) painted as a rampant racist who killed an unarmed black man in his home who was by all accounts an absolute choir boy.
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Rivera texted in March 2018 to Guyger: "Damn I was at this area with 5 different black officers !!! Not racist but damn."

She responded: "Not racist but just have a different way of working and it shows."

Guyger texted with another officer last year about Dallas' Martin Luther King Jr. parade.

"When does this end lol," the officer wrote to Guyger.

"When MLK is dead … oh wait …," she joked.

Two days before Guyger fatally shot Jean, she texted with someone who had adopted a German Shepherd.

The dog's owner wrote of the animal: "Although she may be racist."

Guyger responded, "It's okay .. I'm the same," and later added: "I hate everything and everyone but y'all."
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These will hurt her in the sentencing phase.
 
According to the DA, she had sent sexually explicit text messages to another married police officer, Martin Rivera, in the days after she had shot and killed Botham Jean.

That's all I needed to read to agree with his family that justice has not been served. She should have received much more time in my opinion. But the jury judged her and dealt her the sentence they thought was just and I wasn't there so there's that.
 
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