Does your EDC have a stock trigger?

Does your EDC have a stock trigger?

  • Yes

    Votes: 96 72.7%

  • No

    Votes: 36 27.3%
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Some do some don't.

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Call me paranoid or what, but my EDC is COMPLETELY stock. With readily available off the shelf ammo.
God forbid that I ever have to use it in a deadly force defensive situation, but if I do, I sure don't want to give
an overzealous DA an excuse to put me away for the rest of my life.

Now my range guns are a different animal.
 
I have a Apex kit in my Shield, it's my primary EDC.

One of the things I found interested in listening to some discussions with Andrew Branca and a couple of other well known "gun attorneys" is that this is the one thing you shouldn't modify however after doing some research it seems that some agencies are allowing officers to install the kits. My opinion is that the kit is from a well respected manufacturer with specific demonstrated results, I don't think it falls in the same category as bubba and a Dremel.

I think that parts from a well respected manufacturer such as Apex, Gray Guns, etc. would stand up to scrutiny, I could be wrong, but hopefully I'll never have to find out.

http://www.bluesheepdog.com/2010/12/17/apex-dcaek-mp-trigger-kit-approved/
 
Duane said:
Call me paranoid or what, but my EDC is COMPLETELY stock. With readily available off the shelf ammo.
God forbid that I ever have to use it in a deadly force defensive situation, but if I do, I sure don't want to give
an overzealous DA an excuse to put me away for the rest of my life.

Now my range guns are a different animal.
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I see this justification a lot. I could see it happening but most of the time people cannot come up with cases where it came into play. I am not saying it hasn't but it seems like it is a bit of a urban myth.
 
Really depends on gun. My Grocks all have a newer connector. Cuts a pound or two off and smooths it up a little and makes it bearable. Stock trigger.

They are just tools so they can be used effectively for self defense.

But I agree with Harold, the trigger suck, and if I didn't spend all my money on the guns I actually shoot, I'd likely change them all except maybe the 42.

There are many guns I wouldn't own at all because the suck even worse than a Grock. When I had my kimber ultra carry, it was stock and I liked it a lot, so wouldn't likely change a decent SA gun. But I don't carry SA guns or guns with safeties anymore.
 
Stock, great trigger. Plenty of use at IDPA matches shows no need for any changes.

Kimber Stainless Ultra Carry II (9mm)

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My most frequently carried guns have stock triggers. That's mostly due to not shooting them enough to care enough to spend the money when they're adequate as is. Nothing to do with legal concerns.

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Yes. I have 3 guns I typically carry. The main one is a CZ Custom PCR with a 3.5 lb SA and about an 8 lb DA pull. One other one is a DW ECO with about a 4 lb SA pull and then there is the H&K with light LEM trigger. They are all stock, but very good. If I ever have to use an EDC gun I want every advantage I can get.
 
Beef15 said:
That's mostly due to not shooting them enough to care enough to spend the money when they're adequate as is.
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Same here. I practice with them and they do fine. I even try to simulate total cluster fark draw and hold, no sights point & shoot, and I still make the hits.
I have some pretty racy triggers on the range only toys. I could go either way. If someone was to give me a cool setup for one of my edc's I'd put it in.
 
I've upgraded my trigger and I'm in good shape...

as long as I don't have to use my left hand. o_O

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I'll go with the recommendations of the guys that have defended in cases and wrote the books after years of experience.

You have a possibility of a politically motivated prosecutor who's job it is to paint you in the worst possible light. Then you have 12 people who didn't have anything better to do or too stupid to get out of jury duty that your attorney has to convince that you had no ill intent when you put that "hair trigger" in your gun, etc. I just recently finished a book by Ayoob where he discussed using DAO revolvers only.

There is also the question of fine motor skills going out of whack and possibly losing control of the trigger, say an extra shot that you didn't mean to let loose but you did because you had no clue you were putting pressure on the trigger. That could have serious consequences.

In the end it's a decision an individual has to make for themselves. Either way, it's likely you'll need a good lawyer.
 
Yep, Glock 19 with Suarez flat and straight, and a Glock
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Duane said:
Call me paranoid or what, but my EDC is COMPLETELY stock. With readily available off the shelf ammo.
God forbid that I ever have to use it in a deadly force defensive situation, but if I do, I sure don't want to give
an overzealous DA an excuse to put me away for the rest of my life.

Now my range guns are a different animal.
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I'd like to see evidence of such an issue ever actually have been presented in court.
 
Just tell any lawyer's that have a problem with trigger work that it went off accidentally. It worked for the illegal in San Francisco.
 
My EDC Shield is stock because I have heard the Apex trigger isn’t all that great and I shoot it reasonably well as-is. My EDC CZ P-01 is stock only because I haven’t sent it off to Cajun to work their magic on it. Now that I have another P-01 that has some CGW goodies in it, it may be time to rectify this though.
 
TripleO7 said:
I'll go with the recommendations of the guys that have defended in cases and wrote the books after years of experience.

You have a possibility of a politically motivated prosecutor who's job it is to paint you in the worst possible light. Then you have 12 people who didn't have anything better to do or too stupid to get out of jury duty that your attorney has to convince that you had no ill intent when you put that "hair trigger" in your gun, etc. I just recently finished a book by Ayoob where he discussed using DAO revolvers only.

There is also the question of fine motor skills going out of whack and possibly losing control of the trigger, say an extra shot that you didn't mean to let loose but you did because you had no clue you were putting pressure on the trigger. That could have serious consequences.

In the end it's a decision an individual has to make for themselves. Either way, it's likely you'll need a good lawyer.
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Trigger work does not equal = Hair Trigger. On many of my custom guns I have talked with the smith and requested a crisp, predicable and reliable trigger for self defense purposes. They all understood exactly what I was asking for. I did not end up with a hair trigger on any of them. All of the modifications can be justified because they made the gun more predicable, consistent and reliable. All of them were done by professional gunsmiths not by me and a dremel.

A great trigger does not mean a 2lb trigger or even a light trigger. It is statements like this without the backing of actual case laws that propagate the myths.
 
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every firearm I own has a stock trigger...

Figure that way I won't know what I'm missing out on, and won't have to spend the $$ to upgrade rhem all after upgrading the first. :D
 
jmccracken1214 said:
Does that brake really make a difference ? I have a threaded barrel and was debating jt
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It definitely does, especially when you’re shooting really hot ammo. I had some issues with it reliably cycling cheap steel cased ammo, but I ran a bunch of my carry ammo (124gr +p HSTs) through it and it was amazing how much the comp reduced the muzzle rise. I’m headed to the range tomorrow and I got a bunch of 124gr NATO ball to try it out with; we’ll see if it can run that reliably.
 
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Since my edc changes so much, usually some type of 1911, some times it has a custom trigger, sometimes it doesn't. It's more like I carry everyday, than have an edc
 
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TripleO7 said:
There is also the question of fine motor skills going out of whack and possibly losing control of the trigger, say an extra shot that you didn't mean to let loose but you did because you had no clue you were putting pressure on the trigger. That could have serious consequences.
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If someone could "lose control" of an 3-5lb trigger, they could "lose control" of a 6-8 lb trigger.

Keep the booger hook off the bang switch until you are ready to fire.


People regularly compete under pressure and while running around at full speed with triggers well under 2lbs. Just sayin!
 
My shield has an Apex, and my PCR has had the cajun gun works stuff done to it I think. Glock is stock.

I am not worried about an overzealous attorney, that has been brought up every single time this topic is mentioned. Police dude with the "You're F&$Ked" dust cover walked scot free...that was an attorneys dream...made no impact on the trial.

On top of that, I customize my firearms so that I am more proficient with them, which means I am safer with them.
 
My EDC Smith 442, CZ75 and G19 have factory triggers. Only my AMT Hardballer 1911 which only the frame is original. My other 1911 was a stripped frame and built up. Both have Cylinder & Slide sear groups.

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I put a apex in my shield 45, dry fired a few times, all seemed well...
NKD said:
If someone could "lose control" of an 3-5lb trigger, they could "lose control" of a 6-8 lb trigger.

Keep the booger hook off the bang switch until you are ready to fire.


People regularly compete under pressure and while running around at full speed with triggers well under 2lbs. Just sayin!
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I thought guns started getting "bump fire" like at the 4lb mark??
 
Original or custom, it's a non-worry after a justified shooting.

Can you imagine a grand jury in JoCo charging someone who defended a home invasion because they had a Gislele trigger in their AR?
 
Trigger weights don't bother me that much, probably because I've never really shot anything with a great trigger. So nothing has been done to my carry gun. However, just to keep the controversy stirred, I do carry my own handloads for defensive ammo.
 
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