Getting home

[Chuckman]

6. 2 bottles of water are all I need to get through a day, I refill from your house or a store when empty. No need to carry purification devices.

Two bottles for a day? If you have to travel by foot you may drink that much in an hour. But the spigot tool is a great idea. Water is the last thing you want to have to ration, but if you have a spigot tool (I will pick on up, to augment my purification stuff) you can fix that.

 

[Jayne]

I've seen similar Datrex bars on sale on line, so I figured for $5 it would be worth having a couple to toss into various places for emergencies. After about 8 months of having one in the car I decided to test it out.

Is that thing like "lifeboat rations"? I've got those in my bag, but haven't opened one. Probably time to do that and see what it actually tastes like and how it's stored over the last year.

 

[Jayne]

Two bottles for a day? If you have to travel by foot you may drink that much in an hour. But the spigot tool is a great idea. Water is the last thing you want to have to ration, but if you have a spigot tool (I will pick on up, to augment my purification stuff) you can fix that.

I've got one (a silcock key), damn thing is really heavy for it's size but it's likely worth it. Based on the solid construction I'm assuming those commercial water spigots are tough to turn so that they key is more usable than a pair of vice grips.

 

[B00ger]

Is that thing like "lifeboat rations"? I've got those in my bag, but haven't opened one. Probably time to do that and see what it actually tastes like and how it's stored over the last year.

Yeah, I think they may be similar. It is basically just a big thick cookie with less sugar. It probably wouldn't be bad, maybe even good crushed up and sprinkled with other stuff. It's "edible" in the same was cauliflower or tofu is.

Like I said, the tolerable taste means that you are seriously going to wait until you have to have food to crack it open.


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[B00ger]

You take that back! Cauliflower is amazing, especially with Ranch dressing... but it gives me the farts, some kinda fierce.

Well, these are like sugar cookies...with no sugar...so we are even!


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[Bailey Boat]

I have serious issues with a couple of these. A 6 inch by 10 inch piece of cloth isn't going to keep anything dry, and no one wants your sweaty sock money.

I douse myself with the water so I shrink and fit under the 6x10 easily. And that's WHY i put it under my foot, no one would want it afterwards....

 

[Bailey Boat]

Two bottles for a day? If you have to travel by foot you may drink that much in an hour. But the spigot tool is a great idea. Water is the last thing you want to have to ration, but if you have a spigot tool (I will pick on up, to augment my purification stuff) you can fix that.

That's another reason to travel after dark, it's cooler. I hole up during the day covered with the camo cloth, sip my water and eat a little then move once it's dark and I can sneak to your house and steal water....
PS: In all seriousness the 4 way silcock tool is available at Lowe's for about 10.00 as best as I recall....

 

[Daleo8803]

Alot of good info! Thanks guys!

 

[bigfelipe]

Is that thing like "lifeboat rations"? I've got those in my bag, but haven't opened one. Probably time to do that and see what it actually tastes like and how it's stored over the last year.

I have the lifeboat rations. They taste like a dry coconut cookie kinda thing. Not unpleasant, not great. the hold up extremely well even in conditions that would ruin an MRE. There are plenty of options these days though. The small packs are handy, but they get heavy/bulky fast.

 

[Mountain man]

Yeah, I've seen where the old "suction it out" style kits can actually make things worse...forces blood into the area quicker and so forth.


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Are we talking about a SHTF scenario or a day hike and calling 911 for help?
Because if it's a SHTF case, you damn well better be prepared to take care of it yourself or rely on strangers to get you help, strangers who may take what you got and leave you to die.

 

[NCFubar]

I forgot to mention my emergency field gun/lube cleaning kits ...


Some people will bust me on the smell of Ballistol but that stuff is not toxic, can act as a crude antiseptic for minor scrapes and cuts, will pass as a slight bug repellent along with a few other uses. I would show you my "bore snake" but it is in my shoe ... a simple shoestring knotted to just a gnat's ass bigger that the bore with a piece of a Ballistol wipe tied inside. 3 little individual packets should be more than enough for a GHB.

 

[B00ger]

Are we talking about a SHTF scenario or a day hike and calling 911 for help?
Because if it's a SHTF case, you damn well better be prepared to take care of it yourself or rely on strangers to get you help, strangers who may take what you got and leave you to die.

I'm not disputing that. Just that I have heard the old suction kits are not effective.


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[Mountain man]

I'm not disputing that. Just that I have heard the old suction kits are not effective.


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That very well may be true. What I'm saying is the best available first aid for snake bites is good to include in a GHB, even if home is close by, You hoof it cross country, In a SHTF scenario where you are trying to avoid people, you have no one to rely on but yourself.

 

[JustKeepSwimming]

I forgot to mention my emergency field gun/lube cleaning kits ...

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Some people will bust me on the smell of Ballistol but that stuff is not toxic, can act as a crude antiseptic for minor scrapes and cuts, will pass as a slight bug repellent along with a few other uses. I would show you my "bore snake" but it is in my shoe ... a simple shoestring knotted to just a gnat's ass bigger that the bore with a piece of a Ballistol wipe tied inside. 3 little individual packets should be more than enough for a GHB.

My go to gun lube. I love the smell. Reminds me of black licorice. Ballistol has a very old and interesting history. Great stuff...

 

[Dale Gribble]

Two bottles for a day? If you have to travel by foot you may drink that much in an hour.

And factor in the heat...today, for example and you'll be drinking that sh*t like there's no tomorrow.

From 6am - 4pm today, I went through about 6 liters.

 

[thrillhill]

Being hurt and out of shape is perpetual logistics negative loop.

I work 40 miles from home.

I am out of shape and still recovering from multiple surgeries.

I need to carry more stuff since it will take twice as long as it should.

But since I am out of shape I can't carry more stuff.

I need more stuff.

Can't carry more stuff.

LOL!

I have a get home bag in the back of my SUV that is so heavy it takes two other guys to hold it while I step into. It's ridiculous.
But, I have all that stuff in the vehicle at my disposal should I need it for the 8 trillion other things that are more likely to happen than me walking home due to an EMP or even civil unrest.

On the plus side, I can shed whatever I want a heck of a lot easier than I can make it appear.

I'm losing weight slowly but surely, and my knowledge can't be taken away. I can generally find edibles in the woods any time of the year here in NC, although spring and summer are certainly easier.

My walk home would be exclusively through the country, same as my ride to and from work. I know folks who live every 8 or 10 miles along the way. I also know of a few little meth clusters along the trek as well.

All that being said, I know my route. It would suck in the summer, and be a mild annoyance in the winter. I like a mixture of gear and knowledge. But, knowledge is the one that gives me confidence. Hell, it might take me twice as long as a normal man, but I'm liable to gain weight on the trek home.

 

[Culper]

Lots of good info.

One thing I didn't see listed was sun screen. It is probably the most used item in my bag.

 

[NKD]

I know folks who live every 8 or 10 miles along the way. I also know of a few little meth clusters along the trek as well.

Best idea yet, Bill, a couple rocks and that 40 mile walk will seem like it took 5 minutes!

 

[Zedhound]

If SHTF while I'm at work (about 30 miles) and my car is DOA, then I'd have the tough decision of walking 1,000 feet to the Armory, 800 feet to HMMWV/MRAP/MATV storage, 800ft to the Heli-Pad, 500 feet to the Marina, or half a mile to the RXR station... One of them will get me home inside of an hour.

obvious choice in this order

1. helipad, cause it s fkin helicopter
2. mrap, cause its a fkin mrap, but it cant fly so #2
3.the armory, cause I'm sure theres something that blows stuff up in there
4. the rxr station, not sure what this is but its cant be worse than a boat, boats are ghey
5. not the marina, unless they have one of those jet packs that suck up water and let you fly

 

[Chuckman]

obvious choice in this order

1. helipad, cause it s fkin helicopter
2. mrap, cause its a fkin mrap, but it cant fly so #2
3.the armory, cause I'm sure theres something that blows stuff up in there
4. the rxr station, not sure what this is but its cant be worse than a boat, boats are ghey
5. not the marina, unless they have one of those jet packs that suck up water and let you fly

RXR = railroad. Boats > railroad.

 

[Zedhound]

RXR = railroad. Boats > railroad.

not according do my 3 year old trains > everything

 

[Chuckman]

1. Well, it's an Osprey, and I have trust issues.
2. The MRAP Selection here is spectacular.
3. This particular armory is just for rifles and sidearms.
4. Railroad station. There are some Chevy 2500's with rails and wheels.
5. There are several Navy LCACs there...

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The -22 has come a long way. I don't like them as much as the CH-46, but I trust them more.

 

[bigfelipe]

Being hurt and out of shape is perpetual logistics negative loop.

I work 40 miles from home.

I am out of shape and still recovering from multiple surgeries.

I need to carry more stuff since it will take twice as long as it should.

But since I am out of shape I can't carry more stuff.

I need more stuff.

Can't carry more stuff.

LOL!

I have a get home bag in the back of my SUV that is so heavy it takes two other guys to hold it while I step into. It's ridiculous.
But, I have all that stuff in the vehicle at my disposal should I need it for the 8 trillion other things that are more likely to happen than me walking home due to an EMP or even civil unrest.

On the plus side, I can shed whatever I want a heck of a lot easier than I can make it appear.

I'm losing weight slowly but surely, and my knowledge can't be taken away. I can generally find edibles in the woods any time of the year here in NC, although spring and summer are certainly easier.

My walk home would be exclusively through the country, same as my ride to and from work. I know folks who live every 8 or 10 miles along the way. I also know of a few little meth clusters along the trek as well.

All that being said, I know my route. It would suck in the summer, and be a mild annoyance in the winter. I like a mixture of gear and knowledge. But, knowledge is the one that gives me confidence. Hell, it might take me twice as long as a normal man, but I'm liable to gain weight on the trek home.

Can you fit a moped and gas can in your GHB ?

 

[thrillhill]

Can you fit a moped and gas can in your GHB ?

Nope! LOL!

But, I do carry a bright pink teddy bear and a roll of bright pink marking ribbon.

My wife will be sitting at home with my EMP ride (1981 4x4 Chevrolet 3/4 ton truck).

Since my walk is through the country, I may or may not be on the road, but I will generally be within sight of the road by day. My truck is unmistakable. It's orange and it is a 350 with a 4 barrel and true dual exhaust.

If I am off the road when my wife passes by in the truck, I am to stop, and place the pink teddy bear on the white line on the opposite side of the road from where I am actually waiting.

Once she hits the pink ribbons that I place approximately every 1-2 miles, on signposts, mailboxes, or other landmarks, she knows I have made it that far and to turn around and keep an eye out for the pink teddy bear. Once she sees the teddy bear she is to ease off on the opposite side of the road and open the door. I should be inbound. If I have to deviate far enough off the road for whatever reason and don't see her on her first pass, I place a pink ribbon where I went in and one where I come out.

She has specific instructions on how long she should wait until this is attempted. And I have made a list of which of my friends and relatives should accompany her ranked by ability and awareness and how intimate they are with how I think.


That is what I have to work with right now. I would rather my wife or my friends not have to expose themselves that way.

Luckily I work at a gun shop. Most of us are nuts, or are expected to be nuts. We have a pretty good sized warehouse. Once I find the right late 70s to early 80s dirt bike, 3 wheeler, or 4 wheeler, I will be stashing one inside the warehouse, and riding it once or twice a month when I am bored in the field out here beside the shop to keep it maintained and keep the gas rotated.

My biggest fear if we ever do have an EMP type deal is that @BurnedOutGeek will cheat on me with his wife before I can make it home. I better hurry up and get on with this dirt bike idea! LOL!

 

[BurnedOutGeek]

Nope! LOL!

But, I do carry a bright pink teddy bear and a roll of bright pink marking ribbon.

My wife will be sitting at home with my EMP ride (1981 4x4 Chevrolet 3/4 ton truck).

Since my walk is through the country, I may or may not be on the road, but I will generally be within sight of the road by day. My truck is unmistakable. It's orange and it is a 350 with a 4 barrel and true dual exhaust.

If I am off the road when my wife passes by in the truck, I am to stop, and place the pink teddy bear on the white line on the opposite side of the road from where I am actually waiting.

Once she hits the pink ribbons that I place approximately every 1-2 miles, on signposts, mailboxes, or other landmarks, she knows I have made it that far and to turn around and keep an eye out for the pink teddy bear. Once she sees the teddy bear she is to ease off on the opposite side of the road and open the door. I should be inbound. If I have to deviate far enough off the road for whatever reason and don't see her on her first pass, I place a pink ribbon where I went in and one where I come out.

She has specific instructions on how long she should wait until this is attempted. And I have made a list of which of my friends and relatives should accompany her ranked by ability and awareness and how intimate they are with how I think.


That is what I have to work with right now. I would rather my wife or my friends not have to expose themselves that way.

Luckily I work at a gun shop. Most of us are nuts, or are expected to be nuts. We have a pretty good sized warehouse. Once I find the right late 70s to early 80s dirt bike, 3 wheeler, or 4 wheeler, I will be stashing one inside the warehouse, and riding it once or twice a month when I am bored in the field out here beside the shop to keep it maintained and keep the gas rotated.

My biggest fear if we ever do have an EMP type deal is that @BurnedOutGeek will cheat on me with his wife before I can make it home. I better hurry up and get on with this dirt bike idea! LOL!

No trust that I can't handle both still? I'm old, but not that old!

 

[Chuckman]

That is what I have to work with right now. I would rather my wife or my friends not have to expose themselves that way.

And just how would like your wife exposed??

 

[Dale Gribble]

@thrillhill ...

You've put more into this than 95% of folks out there.

That's a damned good plan and a shining example of why I love this place. You're cruising along, looking at threads/posts and you see something that stops you in your tracks, provokes thought and motivates you in your own planning.

 

[Mirac]

@thrillhill ...

You've put more into this than 95% of folks out there.

That's a damned good plan.

Yeah, I like that tagging your known route to home. if my wife sends a search party. they won't have to backtrack far and eliminate the area behind me fast.

 

[Culper]

Staying hydrated is key. In weather like this, consumption will be way up. In my bag, I keep MSR filter that works in conjunction with a wide mouth Nalgene. I would like to add a 2L bladder and some Gatorade type packets to use if sweating a lot.

 

[thrillhill]

@thrillhill ...

You've put more into this than 95% of folks out there.

That's a damned good plan and a shining example of why I love this place. Your cruising along, looking at threads/posts and you see something that stops you in your tracks, provokes thought and motivates you in your own planning.

Thanks.

But, preparedness is easy and cheap. You either commit to do it or not. Most everyone I know that doesn't prep has a list of excuses a mile long.

The majority of things I have integrated into our plans was stuff I read about or borrowed from another facet of life.

I've worked as a soldier, paid EMS, volunteer EMS, volunteer fire, and had close family members in law enforcement.
I've peeked behind the veneer of the infrastructure of modern society, and it is indeed very very thin.

Preparedness as a family is our hobby. It's worked out great. Kids learned how to hunt, shoot, fish, garden, homestead, and many other things.
Nothing bad happens, we all win! Have fun with my family preparing for something that may never happen, we all win!

And hey, at the end of the day, we're all gonna die. But in the meantime, I've done my duty as a man, a father, and a provider.

The "intellectuals" from my generation and the one before have utterly perverted what it means to be a provider. It turns my stomach to observe what my generational peers consider to be success.

But I reserve my ultimate disdain for those that would rather fall into the categories of "victim" or "land pirate" should the SHTF. Both are the result of nothing more than intellectual and moral/ethical laziness sprinkled with a large dose of "modern lifestyle gluttony" and immediate gratification.


Alright, soapbox off! LOL!

Thanks for the props!

 

[JustKeepSwimming]

What a great couple of posts @thrillhill . Thanks for sharing and taking the time.

And if the SHTF does happen and someone other than you jumps into your truck when your wife stops at the pink bunny on the side of the road at least she will know its another CFF member

 

[BurnedOutGeek]

What a great couple of posts @thrillhill . Thanks for sharing and taking the time.

And if the SHTF does happen and someone other than you jumps into your truck when your wife stops at the pink bunny on the side of the road at least she will know its another CFF member

I'd highly advise against making that attempt. Lol

Even I would just jump in the back of the truck as to not try and tango with Mrs. @thrillhill , and damn sure wouldn't do it as a surprise!

 

[JustKeepSwimming]

I'd highly advise against making that attempt. Lol

Even I would just jump in the back of the truck as to not try and tango with Mrs. @thrillhill , and damn sure wouldn't do it as a surprise!

She sounds like my kind of lady. Wouldn't expect anything less from Bills wife! Guess I will go with a blue teddy bear instead

 

[thrillhill]

And if the SHTF does happen and someone other than you jumps into your truck when your wife stops at the pink bunny on the side of the road at least she will know its another CFF member

If there are any CFF members on Plank Rd. in Moore County or Lee County under those circumstances, they are more than welcome to jump in! LOL!

 

[SilvrSRT10]

Lots of good info.

One thing I didn't see listed was sun screen. It is probably the most used item in my bag.

While breezing through (I may have missed it) but also bug repellant (no odor kind). Bugs can be relentless specially when your trying to be still and hidden. I've also been intrigued but a hammock tent. It can be comfortable to sleep in (when you can), protect you from bugs, sun and rain, be fairly compact and easy to carry. I'd probably want a camo version to stay hiden better. Thoughts?

 

[BurnedOutGeek]

While breezing through (I may have missed it) but also bug repellant (no odor kind). Bugs can be relentless specially when your trying to be still and hidden. I've also been intrigued but a hammock tent. It can be comfortable to sleep in (when you can), protect you from bugs, sun and rain, be fairly compact and easy to carry. I'd probably want a camo version to stay hiden better. Thoughts?

There's lots of pics in here. I need to fix mine from the first couple pages since I deleted photobucket. Last page has my current setup.

https://www.carolinafirearmsforum.com/index.php?threads/hammock-campers.1361/

 

[bigfelipe]

While breezing through (I may have missed it) but also bug repellant (no odor kind). Bugs can be relentless specially when your trying to be still and hidden. I've also been intrigued but a hammock tent. It can be comfortable to sleep in (when you can), protect you from bugs, sun and rain, be fairly compact and easy to carry. I'd probably want a camo version to stay hiden better. Thoughts?

Why would you take the time to set that up and make yourself a target? You couldn't get out of it fast and it would be easy to get the drop on you. Nah. Hunker down against a tree under your poncho and get a nap in, then keep moving. If your goal is to get home, you aren't sleeping through the night. Nap when you need to, but keep moving. You can sleep when you get home and your bed is secure.

 

[SilvrSRT10]

Why would you take the time to set that up and make yourself a target? You couldn't get out of it fast and it would be easy to get the drop on you. Nah. Hunker down against a tree under your poncho and get a nap in, then keep moving. If your goal is to get home, you aren't sleeping through the night. Nap when you need to, but keep moving. You can sleep when you get home and your bed is secure.

If the weather turns bad and you're not moving. Easy shelter. And in my parts it's not difficult to be hidden 20ft. off the road in some trees. Yes, I agree, keep moving as long as you can. But quick shelter sounds appealing too if you NEED it. I've never sized one of these things up so I don't know how much they weigh or how much room it would take up in the GHB. That would be a deciding factor as well.

 

[BurnedOutGeek]

If the weather turns bad and you're not moving. Easy shelter. And in my parts it's not difficult to be hidden 20ft. off the road in some trees. Yes, I agree, keep moving as long as you can. But quick shelter sounds appealing too if you NEED it. I've never sized one of these things up so I don't know how much they weigh or how much room it would take up in the GHB. That would be a deciding factor as well.

Lol

Check out the first post. The compactor trash bag has my entire setup in it including top and bottom quilts.

https://www.carolinafirearmsforum.com/index.php?threads/hiking-wilson-creek.1304/

 

[bigfelipe]

If the weather turns bad and you're not moving. Easy shelter. And in my parts it's not difficult to be hidden 20ft. off the road in some trees. Yes, I agree, keep moving as long as you can. But quick shelter sounds appealing too if you NEED it. I've never sized one of these things up so I don't know how much they weigh or how much room it would take up in the GHB. That would be a deciding factor as well.

I use something similar for camping. Compact and light-ish, especially compared to a tent. I would think a better quick shelter would be a little bivy sack. Honestly though, a Poncho is a quick shelter. You're also down low and out of sight. Plus it's easy to hide in debris that way.