July 2023 22lr Rimfire 50 yd Challenge

Amps 13

Amps 13

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@Litl_Red was our winner last month but @Eric F will be choosing our target for July since @Litl_Red picked last month.


A reminder of our rules below. Haven’t shot with us before? Just do it!

Standard CFF Monthly Rimfire Benchrest Challenge Rules
- Target size: standard 8 1/2 X 11 paper
- Target distance: 50 yards
- Any position you like
- Front rests, bipods, front/rear bags, bunny ears.... all are ok
- No full length rifle mechanical rail/sled type rests allowed
- Iron sights or any optics allowed
- All done on the honor system. Shoot it, score it, post it.
- winner chooses the target and challenge for following month
- post copy of target and pictures of your rifle setup and ammo used

Good shooting everyone!
 
Congrats @Litl_Red Nice shoot'n!!!

I am ticked that I could not get the time to shoot last months. Things are starting to lighten up for me so I am keeping my fingers crossed for this month.
 
Here we go, now that I am fully awake. For July we will shoot an airgun target with ducks. Score as shown. Top row 3, middle 2 and bottom 1. 26 points is a perfect score. Tie breaker will be shot at 75 yards, unless there are any suggestions for a better tie breaker. You can shoot black and white targets to save ink. Also, the target can be downloaded free from The Airgun Centre.

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What is a hit? Touch the duck? In the duck? Touch or in one of the bull rings?

A good tie breaker could be touching or entirely within the center red of the bull.
 
I like that it isn’t many target so people can shoot more.

Point count for hitting the outside target ring? How about more points for hitting red (center circle)? 2x points or something or even just 1 extra point?
 
We usually count shots that break the outside ring. Any space between the shot and the outside ring will not count. Top targets will be tough. We could use center dot hits as the tie breaker. Let's see what others think. Amps will give us the final solution.
 
Eric F said:
We usually count shots that break the outside ring. Any space between the shot and the outside ring will not count. Top targets will be tough. We could use center dot hits as the tie breaker. Let's see what others think. Amps will give us the final solution.
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This is a great target (in my book). I like when sheets have a few targets like this (to minimize the amount of ammo people have to shoot) and then multiple sizes of targets down to around 0.25" to reward better shots with more points. I think you can do that here.

When I print it, those top targets are 0.45". The middle ones are 0.5" and the bottom are around 0.63". The inside rings (outside of the black ring around the red appears to be 0.2", 0.22", 0.275", so those will definitely be tougher! Either way, it will come down to consistency.

The more points you reward shooters for hitting those small dots, the less you have to rely on other tiebreakers and more shots later. With each row being different sizes, I would suggest going with extra points for different reds just like the main circles. I would suggest double points for hitting the center circle, because just 1 extra for a .2 vs a .275 isn't quite the same. With that range of points, people can still hit all 12 and have different scores depending on where they hit.

Makes me want to pull my pellets out!
 
Attached is the duck in PDF file. The reason I did this was because someone that I sent the jpg to could not print it that way. Don't know why
 

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First, I really like the target. I would be against the 75 yard tie breaker unless we couldn’t figure out a good one at 50.
I believe we can just count center hits as double points on all Targets. If we do it that way a center hit does not break any of the outer target line? If that is the case I am good with that.
 
I am with ECNC, the weather, and other circumstances kept me from shooting as much as I wanted to. I did get to shoot one time but it was pretty sorry. The range that I shoot at has now opened back up so I am back in the game at least as a participant.
I guess until the scoring is finalized we can shoot and ask questions later.
 
Amps 13 said:
First, I really like the target. I would be against the 75 yard tie breaker unless we couldn’t figure out a good one at 50.
I believe we can just count center hits as double points on all Targets. If we do it that way a center hit does not break any of the outer target line? If that is the case I am good with that.
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So ignoring the red, right? (Can’t put a 22lr completely in the red., except the bottom row.) Completely inside the outside ring is double points?
 
Smok3y said:
So ignoring the red, right? (Can’t put a 22lr completely in the red., except the bottom row.) Completely inside the outside ring is double points?
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That’s what I was thinking. I really think it’s gonna be a tall task for the two top rows though. Is this unrealistic?

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I like scoring it with double points hitting within the black ring of the bullseye and not breaking out. I gave it a test run today. Let me know if it is scored correctly. I had a little wind right to left.
 
Eric F said:
I like scoring it with double points hitting within the black ring of the bullseye and not breaking out. I gave it a test run today. Let me know if it is scored correctly. I had a little wind right to left.
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Think you forgot to add pic.
 
Holy crap!!! That PDF made the target significantly harder!! It will be much harder to fit get a perfect shot now. And the way paper often tears, it will be even harder to.

Look at the difference from the targets I printed this morning. Those ones in your pic have significantly smaller targets.

I’m not sure you could fit it in the top row of the new one and the 2nd row looks like it would have to be perfect. 3rd row will still be very hard.

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Smok3y said:
Holy crap!!! That PDF made the target significantly harder!! It will be much harder to fit get a perfect shot now. And the way paper often tears, it will be even harder to.

Look at the difference from the targets I printed this morning. Those ones in your pic have significantly smaller targets.

I’m not sure you could fit it in the top row of the new one and the 2nd row looks like it would have to be perfect. 3rd row will still be very hard.

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Yes, that Target looks bigger than the one you printed.
 
If you go directly to the Airgun Centre web site, then you can download the jpeg target. I would think the targets would be the same size, but apparently not.
 
I just printed out the target That @Eric F first put up instead of the PDF one. It is much larger and looks like the one that he just posted up. Everyone need to use that one (Unless you are really good then please use the smaller one to make me look better).
 
Eric F said:
If you go directly to the Airgun Centre web site, then you can download the jpeg target. I would think the targets would be the same size, but apparently not.
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The pdf that was created was completely different. I think the jpegs are working fine.
 
My test target was shot from my sisters farm in RI. My nephew built the bench. They have a tree business, thus many logs to bring to the mill or split for firewood. Trying to find more locations to shoot as we travel.

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Got out for a bit. If I could just hit every target just once! Still did ok but room to improve for sure.
CZ 457 w/ Vortex Viper 6-24x50
Ammo- Started out with SK long But then switched to SK standard + which shot my top two targets.
Best I got was a 31 with a 29 and a 28 trailing.
Best part of the day was finding about 25 spent cases of 7.62x39. SKS will be happy.

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@Amps 13 . So close!
I need to post some from this weekend.

Curious about one thing… scoring on double points... It appears that you didn’t get double for a few that I would have thought were doubles.

Is the plan that that to receive double points... The shot cannot break the inside of the outer ring? That appears how you scored. I think I assumed that it would be scored double as long as it didn’t break outside of that ring… But going back, I did see a suggestion about not breaking that the inside of that outside ring.
 
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Smok3y said:
@Amps 13 . So close!
I need to post some from this weekend.

Curious about one thing… scoring on double points... It appears that you didn’t get double for a few that I would have thought were doubles.

Is the plan that that to receive double points... The shot cannot break the inside of the outer ring? That appears how you scored. I think I assumed that it would be scored double as long as it didn’t break outside of that ring… But going back, I did see a suggestion about not breaking that the inside of that outside ring.
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It was my understanding that we were not giving double points if the outer ring was touched. That’s how I scored mine.
 
Amps 13 said:
It was my understanding that we were not giving double points if the outer ring was touched. That’s how I scored mine.
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I would add 6 points to your score Amps 13. Breaking out of the outside edge of the ring was my thought. You have 3 shots in the middle row that appear to have black still showing. Great shooting!
 
I was about to go shooting when I noticed a difference in target size. I'd gotten some from one place and some others from another.

Both were printed on 8.5x11 paper. Neither were "scaled to fit".

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Eric F said:
I would add 6 points to your score Amps 13. Breaking out of the outside edge of the ring was my thought. You have 3 shots in the middle row that appear to have black still showing. Great shooting!
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I thought it was the inside line. I guess we need to see what most want.
what you all think? double points for keeping inside black outer ring or the outer black ring?
 
Just a suggestion, I used to do a lot of desktop publishing, it would be helpful if you put a ruler say inches or centimeters 0 to 6. That way when you print it out, you can verify that you have the right scale.. Otherwise, sometimes a printer will choose to follow dots per inch(pixels) instead of absolute size.

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